Carbon countdown

johnraff · 2025-12-17 05:33:30

I've been working on BLOB the last week or so. As usual, there was more work than expected, coping with the switch from tint2 to xfce4-panel while keeping backward compatibility and trying to get a user work flow that makes sense...

Anyway once that's done I think it will be time for a new iso build. Maybe skip betas and go straight to a Release Candidate, if the little bugfixes that came up have all done their thing correctly.

Please throw in this thread any last-minute issues that ought to be looked at first!

(I'll also copy in links from any leftovers in Carbon TODO. They're all done.)

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johnraff · 2025-12-17 05:35:17

johnraff wrote:

hhh wrote:
greenjeans wrote:
I couldn't find any flaws except for someone put the panel in the wrong place, no biggie, it was easy to fix.
That'd be me...
I've been using a horizontal taskbar for the last year, though.
There's still time to make the default xfce4-panel horizontal.
Either way, we'd want to ship configs for both, I guess?

Last call for a switch to horizontal panel by default! Otherwise it'll be vertical.

hhh · 2025-12-17 13:50:54

I'm indifferent as to the default position. Anyone else?

unklar · 2025-12-17 15:13:23

^ vertical

DeepDayze · 2025-12-17 20:25:49

I prefer horizontal but it should be a snap to set the position you like.

dhalgren · 2025-12-17 21:42:16

I always use a horizontal panel at the top of the screen. (Vertical panels make me dizzy.) But, as I remember from long ago, changing the orientation of the panel in Xfce is simple, so it matters not to me.

johnraff · 2025-12-18 04:36:10

We have a variety of personal preferences here (I always use horizontal at bottom), and it's very easy to switch, so our choice of default should be determined by what first impression we want to make on new users and (especially) reviewers.
Vertical: cool and modern (and similar to Macs?)
Horizontal: comforting for new ex-Windows arrivals

Döbbie03 · 2025-12-18 05:40:47

If I used a bar, I would use it vertical. Makes more sense on modern monitors, I believe.

johnraff · 2025-12-18 05:47:58

OK there's obviously not a clamour to make it horizontal, so let's stay with the Vertical panel we have now.

phil_in_la · 2025-12-18 06:30:28

Well, just to state my opinion, I'm now in excalibur and carbon... but I'm manually launching bl-tint2-manager because I seem to have it left over from when I installed as daedalus/beryllium. I am running "crunchbang horizontal" at the top and a launcher-only version of tint2-vertical, with the xfce4 panel hiding at the bottom of the screen.

BL-Exit isn't working for reasons I haven't figured out yet, so I just use a terminal and sudo shutdown.

I also need to put the thumbnail service back in or something.

I'm just saying-where-I'm-at-right-now. Nothing important.

johnraff · 2025-12-18 07:05:57

^Hi Phil, so what is the issue you'd like to raise here? That bl-exit doesn't work for you?

unklar · 2025-12-18 14:42:51

^If that were the case, I would be so happy...
https://imgbox.com/lkpdtEtQ
Thanks, @hhh!

hhh · 2025-12-18 15:45:08

unklar wrote:

^If that were the case, I would be so happy...
https://imgbox.com/lkpdtEtQ
Thanks, @hhh!

No idea what you mean here. Did you post in the right thread?

phil_in_la · 2025-12-19 04:50:25

johnraff wrote:

^Hi Phil, so what is the issue you'd like to raise here? That bl-exit doesn't work for you?

Not really. I figured it has more to do with me using devuan than anything else that's gone wrong. I'll probably be trying to figure stuff out later but I have a bunch of stuff to do in the meantime including some tax stuff, some car repairs, and a bunch of personal cleanup. I moved some furniture and cleaned up enough to be able to see the floors, and I don't like what I see. I get paid tomorrow, and then need to see what I can get done. Then I'll come back and see where I'm at.

phil_in_la · 2025-12-19 04:58:26

While I'm at it, an idle question: we have all this leftover stuff from tint2, there's already bl-tint2-manager and associated infrastructure, is it ok if we keep using it?

(I'm using tint2 or xfce-panel on three sides of the screen right now; crunchbang-horizontal at top, crunchbang-vertical on the left side but only used for launchers, and the bottom panel is xfce4-panel, but is only used for whisker-menu and the status tray plugin.

johnraff · 2025-12-19 05:51:45

phil_in_la wrote:

While I'm at it, an idle question: we have all this leftover stuff from tint2, there's already bl-tint2-manager and associated infrastructure, is it ok if we keep using it?

Sure, no problem. Tint2 is still in the Debian Trixie repo so anyone can install it and go on using the BL tint2 utilities. Just go menu>User Settings>jgmenu>Edit Menu Content, find the line around 63 that starts '#Tint2,^pipe(jgmenu_run ob...' and uncomment it to get access to tint2 manager and friends.

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