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Sector11

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From: Upstairs

Registered: 2015-08-20

Posts: 8,099

Re: Tutorial - Debian-Hyprland

^ For those who dare to take the step to sid/unstable, {snip}.

I ran sid for a few years, and I did "up2" daily at start up in the morning. Until one day I got stupid and tried something.  I didn't bother keeping the pieces I went back to stable.

But, I've heard it said and I agree, sid is more stable than "testing" if proper care is maintained.

alias up2='sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade --no-install-recommends && date +%Y·%m·%d%n%T > $HOME/.conky.sysupdate'

it did not have the "&& date →" part at the time

I still use "up2" - saves typing.

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unklar

Back to the roots 1.9

From: #! BL

Registered: 2015-10-31

Posts: 2,792

Re: Tutorial - Debian-Hyprland

^In sid(uction), the commands

# apt update

# apt full-upgrade

are used to update the system. The command

# apt upgrade

is only used (the $USER must want this) if dist-upgrade or full-upgrade reports that “half” of the system will be removed. This occurs regularly, for example, during so-called ‘transitions’.
Perl packages, the t64 conversion, were typical examples.
With apt upgrade, the ‘old’ perl packages remain in the system and are not replaced with the ‘new’ packages until a full-upgrade is performed. And this must be done promptly(zeitnah)!
Therefore, it is better to wait and only use the apt upgrade command in justified exceptional cases.

See “man apt” > Difference between apt upgrade and full-upgrade.

Sector11

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From: Upstairs

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Re: Tutorial - Debian-Hyprland

OH MY!!!!

I've been using that for YEARS!
Time to read ... and I wonder where I got that from.

Thank you my friend.

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Gaucho

From: High in the Custerdome

Registered: 2015-09-17

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Re: Tutorial - Debian-Hyprland

The aptosid/siduction 'A small APT Cookbook' is my GoTo for sid upgrades...

https://manual.siduction.org/sys-admin- … ll-upgrade

Dropping to TTY and isolating the graphical targets is playing things extremly safe, especially if you're running Wayland only, so I skip those steps. It's sid, I don't keep anything important on it.

It also shows apt/apt-get command comparisons, which I embarrassingly skipped over and used apt-cache policy instead of the easier apt policy for years ...

https://manual.siduction.org/sys-admin- … nd-apt-get

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Sector11

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From: Upstairs

Registered: 2015-08-20

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Re: Tutorial - Debian-Hyprland

aptosid/siduction or not THAT PAGE IS A KEEPER!

Thank you

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johnraff

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From: Nagoya, Japan

Registered: 2015-09-09

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Re: Tutorial - Debian-Hyprland

...used apt-cache policy instead of the easier apt policy for years

But... there's no difference between apt-cache policy and apt policy is there? Or you mean you only need to use the "apt" command, no need to remember "apt-cache"? Anyway these days I find myself using "apt" most of the time, then having to check the apt-get manual because I've forgotten it all.

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Sector11

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From: Upstairs

Registered: 2015-08-20

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Re: Tutorial - Debian-Hyprland

"apt" is my go to as well.

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Gaucho

From: High in the Custerdome

Registered: 2015-09-17

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Re: Tutorial - Debian-Hyprland

...used apt-cache policy instead of the easier apt policy for years

Or you mean you only need to use the "apt" command, no need to remember "apt-cache"?

That's what I meant. It's only a little thing but it sure was a D'oh! moment.

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unklar

Back to the roots 1.9

From: #! BL

Registered: 2015-10-31

Posts: 2,792

Re: Tutorial - Debian-Hyprland

^^interesting.
Reading material other than “man apt” 
https://phoenixnap.com/kb/apt-vs-apt-get
https://itsfoss.com/apt-vs-apt-get-difference/