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@greenjeans is a winner! Wallpaper, without the overlayed clock widget, showing a wonky 8-pointed clock face...
Thanks for playing!
Xfce4 wayland-only, using labwc and gdm3. Music player is ario (mpd)...
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Xfce4 wayland-only, using labwc and gdm3. Music player is ario (mpd)...
This setup has some major quirks (basically there's no integration between the xfce session and labwc, and some of xfce-session needs replacements, like grim instead of xfce4-screenshooter, swaybg to set a wallpaper, and swaylock for screen locking), but I love it. It works just fine.
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hhh wrote:Xfce4 wayland-only, using labwc and gdm3. Music player is ario (mpd)...
This setup has some major quirks (basically there's no integration between the xfce session and labwc, and some of xfce-session needs replacements, like grim instead of xfce4-screenshooter, swaybg to set a wallpaper, and swaylock for screen locking), but I love it. It works just fine.
What distro you running that on? Everything normally works out of the box except for setting the wallpaper; you will need swaybg or some other wayland wallpaper app.
You're probably correct about the session integration; I didn't really dig into that.
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@PackRat, running it on trixie without any other sessions (except for the unconfigured labwc session, which I haven't set up).
Another example, all of the Xfce workspace settings are ignored, they're set by labwc.
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Another example, all of the Xfce workspace settings are ignored, they're set by labwc.
Right. Anything handled by the window manager (xfwin4 ?) won't work since it isn't running. All that needs to be configured in labwc.
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hhh wrote:Another example, all of the Xfce workspace settings are ignored, they're set by labwc.
Right. Anything handled by the window manager (xfwin4 ?) won't work since it isn't running. All that needs to be configured in labwc.
Bingo.
Kind of ripe for a distrolet that could preconfigure such a thing.
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PackRat wrote:hhh wrote:Another example, all of the Xfce workspace settings are ignored, they're set by labwc.
Right. Anything handled by the window manager (xfwin4 ?) won't work since it isn't running. All that needs to be configured in labwc.
Bingo.
Kind of ripe for a distrolet that could preconfigure such a thing.
Indeed.
And the current version of xfce4 creates a ~/.config/xfce4/labwc folder for the labwc configuration and autostart files. It's nice, the files are separated from ~/.config/labwc so users can still log into labwc only.
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hhh wrote:PackRat wrote:Right. Anything handled by the window manager (xfwin4 ?) won't work since it isn't running. All that needs to be configured in labwc.
Bingo.
Kind of ripe for a distrolet that could preconfigure such a thing.
Indeed.
And the current version of xfce4 creates a ~/.config/xfce4/labwc folder for the labwc configuration and autostart files. It's nice, the files are separated from ~/.config/labwc so users can still log into labwc only.
Unfortunately, this does not work because the essential files (autostart; menu.xml) cannot be created. There are only environment (brooding) and rc.xml.
The user must create them by hand. At least that's the case with siduction. :x
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I tried to look up some of the old CrunchBang wallpapers, but had no luck in finding them. Of course there where some out there, but not the ones I remember. So I just went for the next chapter instead. Changed my t-shirt for the pose. And here it is:
while true; do mount /dev/close2zero /mnt/clarity; done
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Unfortunately, this does not work because the essential files (autostart; menu.xml) cannot be created. There are only environment (brooding) and rc.xml.
The user must create them by hand. At least that's the case with siduction. :x
What do you mean it does nott work?
I don't have the setup right now, but as I recall, xfce4 includes the default rc.xml file for labwc, and xfce4 wayland calls labwc as "labwc -c" so that it reads the ~/.config/xfce4/labwc configuration.
Put your autostart and menu.xml files there (although the xfce4 menu works fine with labwc OOTB). Swaybg can be called from the autostart file to set the wallpaper.
The user can also have a ~/.config/labwc with separate configuration files to launch labwc only with waybar etc ... from a separate autostart.
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He means you have to create the folder/files. There is an example of rc.xml in /usr/share/doc/labwc that you can extract.
Gnome on Wayland-only trixie. Six months now with this setup, and over a year with gnome-shell on Wayland, I think. It suits me...
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^ The directory should be created automatically and the default rc.xml copied into it on first log in. On Arch and Void anyway. Debian builds not doing that yet? Pretty sure my last trixie/sid install did that. Apparently Sidiction isn't.
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^ The directory should be created automatically and the default rc.xml copied into it on first log in. On Arch and Void anyway. Debian builds not doing that yet? Pretty sure my last trixie/sid install did that. Apparently Sidiction isn't.
The directory for labwc inside of xfce4 (~/.config/xfce4/labwc) was definitely maybe not populated when I installed it on trixie less than a month ago.
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PackRat wrote:^ The directory should be created automatically and the default rc.xml copied into it on first log in. On Arch and Void anyway. Debian builds not doing that yet? Pretty sure my last trixie/sid install did that. Apparently Sidiction isn't.
The directory for labwc inside of xfce4 (~/.config/xfce4/labwc) was definitely maybe not populated when I installed it on trixie less than a month ago.
I'm doing a Void install now to make sure I wasn't hallucinating earlier.
16% done and counting ....
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Void, xfce4 wayland. First log in, the directory is created and populated with the environment and rc.xml files.
and xfce4-screenshooter works, but not the screensaver/lock screen.
The plan is to put trixie with xfce on this old laptop and basically retire it. I'll check to see if it's different.
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Apparently if you make the icons small enough on a fairly high panel, tint2 will display launchers in a neat little 2 row grid
That's a new look. Nice setup.
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Cheers. The mini launchers remind me of an old xfce4 panel plugin (quicklaunchers?)
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