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#1 2016-01-05 23:47:33

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Infinality backports?

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 962#p13962
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 043#p14043

I could upload the debs unofficially. @all, should we add these packages to BL backports?

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#2 2016-01-06 05:06:13

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Re: Infinality backports?

Won't happen with these patches because they are not only unsupported but also supposed to apply to 2.4.x libfreetype, which the repository you have used is doing -- download 2.4.x freetype, apply patches, package and then install. Jessie is on 2.5.x. Since libfreetype is a common source of CVEs and 2.4.x is not longer supported in Debian stable, I can't do this.

If somebody would package Bohomil's 2.5.x patches for Debian and make them apply to the original Debian package, then it'd be a different story.

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#3 2016-01-06 07:43:49

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Re: Infinality backports?

IMO, Infinality is no longer needed.

Some of their patches have been incorporated upstream (I think) and the stock jessie/BL font rendering is already first class.

Certainly better than Windows 10 cool

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#4 2016-01-06 11:17:50

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Re: Infinality backports?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

IMO, Infinality is no longer needed.

Some of their patches have been incorporated upstream (I think) and the stock jessie/BL font rendering is already first class.

Certainly better than Windows 10 cool

I have no point of comparison for non-infinality font rendering on Linux at the moment. I can however say that with infinality-ultimate-bundle (100% default configuration) the font rendering on my Linux machine is twice as sexy as the Windows font rendering and infinitely better than OSX. That being that, I think that font rendering on Linux in general is definitely already  as good as proprietary font rendering engines, and it's only getting better. However, Ubuntu still seems to be patching freetype.

(note that this is about system fonts; PDFs etc are a different matter [although mupdf is IMO quite a bit ahead even of Adobe's renderer]).


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#5 2016-01-06 14:36:21

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Re: Infinality backports?

Infinality also comes with few styles one can choose from (I haven't done any comparisons with jessie defaults either < todo).

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#6 2016-01-06 16:30:56

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Re: Infinality backports?

madoromi wrote:

Won't happen with these patches because they are not only unsupported but also supposed to apply to 2.4.x libfreetype, which the repository you have used is doing -- download 2.4.x freetype, apply patches, package and then install. Jessie is on 2.5.x. Since libfreetype is a common source of CVEs and 2.4.x is not longer supported in Debian stable, I can't do this.

Agreed, I didn't realize that. I purged the 2.4 lib and fontconfig-infinality packages. This, of course, left my fonts looking like hell after a reboot.

If somebody would package Bohomil's 2.5.x patches for Debian and make them apply to the original Debian package, then it'd be a different story.

I did a little hunting...
https://launchpad.net/~no1wantdthisname … ubuntu/ppa

I backported the Wily versions of those 2 packages, that way the freetype package (2.5.2-4) won't be overwritten by the jessie version (2.5.2-3) during an upgrade...

Screenshot_01062016_11_13_53_AM.jpg

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#7 2016-01-06 16:34:29

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Re: Infinality backports?

Anyway, I agree that there's no pressing need for this and reverting the changes would probably be a PITA. The instructions for doing a simple backport work with that PPA so anyone can build it.

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#8 2016-01-06 18:45:43

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Re: Infinality backports?

Now that the main convo is over, I can sneak a question in... When implementing a backport to a new release, do you just slap in a new package in the iso, or is it actually changing / editing packages that exist already?


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#9 2016-01-06 18:51:01

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Re: Infinality backports?

twoion wrote:
Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

IMO, Infinality is no longer needed.

Some of their patches have been incorporated upstream (I think) and the stock jessie/BL font rendering is already first class.

Certainly better than Windows 10 cool

I have no point of comparison for non-infinality font rendering on Linux at the moment.

It's so different. Here are the default fonts on a brand new RC1 install before upgrading the system. I did a fresh install twice to be sure of what I was seeing...

Screenshot_01062016_01_22_07_PM.jpg

Here's with the packages I backported and `sudo bash infctl.sh setstyle` set to 3 (Linux)...

Screenshot_01062016_01_28_03_PM.jpg

Why conky and tint2's clock seem nearly unaffected, I have no idea. The system and terminal fonts (Liberation Sans and whatever Monospace is using) are crazy different. Out of these 2, the original rendering looks better to me.

However, set those fonts down to 9px from the default 10 and you get this...

Screenshot_01062016_01_33_00_PM.jpg

I like that rendering the most, but the default settings are excellent as well.

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#10 2016-01-06 21:40:52

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Re: Infinality backports?

hhh wrote:

The system and terminal fonts (Liberation Sans and whatever Monospace is using) are crazy different. Out of these 2, the original rendering looks better to me.

I was finally inspired by this thread to go searching for side-by-side comparison shots and I came to the same conclusion.  Infinality just gives me the feeling that my eyes aren't quite focusing right.


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#11 2016-01-07 02:53:48

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Re: Infinality backports?

(Monospace is now set to Droid Sans Mono but that was not the case in RC1.)


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