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Debian's official desktop is GNOME ![]()
EDIT: and I'm using Chimera Linux, which targets GNOME as the first class desktop, so couldn't that be considered GNOME-based?
The primary/official desktop is GNOME, but others are available
https://chimera-linux.org/docs/configuration/desktops
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EDIT: and I'm using Chimera Linux, which targets GNOME as the first class desktop, so couldn't that be considered GNOME-based?
It's an independent distro not based on anything, but, hopefully, they include VICE in the .iso images. This way you will be able to call it a C-64-based distro.
I give up...
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I'm trying Spiral Linux and it seems OK. It's basically preconfigured Debian with Calamares installer. It uses only official Debian repositories. If nothing goes wrong it may actually stay on my laptop for some time.
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I was looking at the Fedora site and it says:
Fedora Linux 42 promotes the Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop variant to full Edition status.
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fe … ma-edition
So Fedora is now GNOME & KDE based. The other desktops have a lesser status, officially.
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I was looking at the Fedora site and it says:
Fedora Linux 42 promotes the Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop variant to full Edition status.
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fe … ma-edition
So Fedora is now GNOME & KDE based. The other desktops have a lesser status, officially.
Thanks for the clarification, I stand corrected. I notice that there's a COSMIC edition now too?
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Added another Arch based distro to my main laptop. Artix running openbox window manager.
https://i.postimg.cc/yWSGD2sC/artix-Screenshot-2025-04-16-07-45-06.png
I like your desktop. You organize it exactly the same way I do. ![]()
I don't use Arch, BTW. ![]()
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Just downloaded FunOS, a Ubuntu 25.04-based distro with JWM as its window manager. It's very much a minimalist distro; it comes with no e-mail client or office suite so if you want those you have to install them separately (though it does come with SMPlayer for multimedia files).
I also made a couple of changes to MX Fluxbox+ and saved them to a snapshot iso file.
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I've finally found a distro that used Regolith by default - Alien OS Regolith version, which is based on MX.
It's certainly different but it's an over 4 GB download.
It offers Floorp as a standard for web browsing, which is certainly unusual, in addition to Tor; and has Only Office for its office suite and Evolution for e-mail etc. I found it a bit of a hassle to get everything working in English though (it's a German distro and my first attempt at choosing a keyboard map ended up as Swedish).
Definitely one for those who want to take a chance on something a bit different.
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I've finally found a distro that used Regolith by default - Alien OS Regolith version, which is based on MX.
It's certainly different but it's an over 4 GB download.
It offers Floorp as a standard for web browsing, which is certainly unusual, in addition to Tor; and has Only Office for its office suite and Evolution for e-mail etc. I found t a bit of a hassle to get everything working in English though (it's a German distro and my first attempt at choosing a keyboard map ended up as Swedish).
Definitely one for those who want to take a chance on something a bit different.
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What's wrong with Swedish keyboard?
:-)
/Martin
"Problems worthy of attack
prove their worth by hitting back."
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Colonel Panic wrote:I've finally found a distro that used Regolith by default - Alien OS Regolith version, which is based on MX.
It's certainly different but it's an over 4 GB download.
It offers Floorp as a standard for web browsing, which is certainly unusual, in addition to Tor; and has Only Office for its office suite and Evolution for e-mail etc. I found t a bit of a hassle to get everything working in English though (it's a German distro and my first attempt at choosing a keyboard map ended up as Swedish).
Definitely one for those who want to take a chance on something a bit different.
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What's wrong with Swedish keyboard?
:-)/Martin
Hi Martin,
Quite a lot if you're not expecting it when you're typing a password in "blind" (i.e. all the characters covered by asterisks)!
It keeps on failing to log you in, and telling you "Wrong username or password", but you don't know why.
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Martin wrote:What's wrong with Swedish keyboard?
:-)/Martin
Hi Martin,
Quite a lot if you're not expecting it when you're typing a password in "blind" (i.e. all the characters covered by asterisks)!
It keeps on failing to log you in, and telling you "Wrong username or password", but you don't know why.
OK, some time ago I found out, the hard way, that a popular Linux installer do not understand 'Swedish' characters when setting up disk encryption. No error message or so while setting things up. I just couldn't boot as my password was rejected. It took some trial and error to understand what was going on.
/Martin
"Problems worthy of attack
prove their worth by hitting back."
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Bad things for Fedora...
Fedora 42 System Audit 2025
Complete the pattern, solve the puzzle, turn the key.
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Trying out the Crowz distro I had downloaded some time back.
"CROWZ is a lightweight, Devuan-based Linux distribution. The project offers three graphical window managers: Openbox, Fluxbox, and JWM. CROWZ can be run from live media or installed to a hard drive using the Calamares system installer."
I installed the Openbox edition to my testing laptop to play around with for the fun of it. Not to bad so far but I have a lot more playing to do with it.
My next "victim" on the fun agenda will be 4MLinux 48.0 for the heck of it.
I use Arch BTW! If it is not rolling, it is stagnant!
RebornOS, EndeavourOS, Archbang, Artix,
Linuxhub Prime, Manjaro, Void, PCLinuxOS
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That "audit" is as lazy as the reviewer's eye ![]()
Enabling the Speculative Store Bypass mitigation by default would cause a significant performance hit and wouldn't actually improve the security of the official desktop because all supplied applications either use seccomp or call prctl directly. Hardly a "critical" security issue...
For balance here are the official positions of SUSE & Red Hat:
https://www.suse.com/support/kb/doc/?id=000019189
https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/speculat … w-it-works
Mitigating Speculative Store Buffer Bypass attacks is a complex topic. We could simply globally disable every speculative performance feature. But that would rapidly remove many decades worth of performance gains across the industry. And doing so wouldn’t necessarily make us any safer in the process because in most cases store buffer speculation is safe. This is because applications that rely upon process-level separations aren’t impacted by this vulnerability. Thus, a “big hammer” approach of disabling store buffer speculation would unfairly penalize all applications to protect just a few that could be exploited through a carefully crafted attack.
And the systemd section is just pointless — all genuine UNIX® systems have their core utilities developed and maintained by the same team, as do the BSDs, so I fail to understand why this upsets Linux fans so much ![]()
EDIT: Disclaimer:
~$ cat /proc/1/comm
dinit
~$![]()
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That "audit" is as lazy as the reviewer's eye
He must be doing https://telepromptermirror.com/telepromptersoftware.htm
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Trying out the Crowz distro I had downloaded some time back.
"CROWZ is a lightweight, Devuan-based Linux distribution. The project offers three graphical window managers: Openbox, Fluxbox, and JWM. CROWZ can be run from live media or installed to a hard drive using the Calamares system installer."
I installed the Openbox edition to my testing laptop to play around with for the fun of it. Not to bad so far but I have a lot more playing to do with it.
My next "victim" on the fun agenda will be 4MLinux 48.0 for the heck of it.https://i.postimg.cc/06mZZ3vt/crowz-Screenshot-2025-04-29-07-31-31.png
Thanks for the tip, I'm trying it now. It uses the WebGTK browser which is very lightweight but appears capable; I'm even listening to Sibelius on Youtube as I write this.
Update: Youtube playback seems to work for a few seconds then breaks down unfortunately. Playing mp3 files in Deadbeef works fine though.
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Have now also jumped on the distrohoppers wagon and traded my very stable bunsenlabs for openmandriva, something completely new to me, is the first introduction to this distro from France which is derived from the defunct Mandriva. There are the ‘rock’ and ‘rome’ versions, where rome is the rolling release I currently have running.
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The first distro I used was Mandrake, which in turn became Mandriva. It was a pretty cool distro, though I replaced it with SuSe eventually.
I might have a look at openmandriva and give it a whirl, just to see how it stacks up. Relive some of my middle age!
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I've gone back to 32-bit after experiencing a few problems with my machine recently, especially with booting it up and my internet connection dropping off.
So far the 32-bit versions of MX Fluxbox and Slackel Openbox have turned out absolutely fine, and Damn Small (which is based on 32-bit antiX) is pretty usable too. It's getting harder to find 32-bit versions of distros though, so I don't know for how much longer this is going to remain a viable solution.
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