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Pirx

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

...KDE Plasma-based distro like Fedora...

Fedora is not a Plasma-based distro. I tried Fedora around a month ago and it was... the LXDE flavour. Does it mean that Fedora is a "retro" distribution? Absolutely not. The same with Sparky. When you choose LXQT, you shouldn't be surprised that it looks old-school. If you want a modern look, choose KDE. That applies to any distro. I don't understand why it's so difficult for some people to understand that a DE is not a distribution. It's just one element of a distribution.

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Fedora's official "Workstation" ISO images are GNOME based but they do also offer official KDE images as well:

https://fedoraproject.org/kde/

I think any other desktops are considered community spins.

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Pirx

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

So? They are still included on Fedora's official website and are considered another way to use Fedora. No one's saying that Fedora XFCE is not Fedora. No one comes to a conclusion that Fedora is a retro distribution just because the LXDE spin exists and is mentioned on Fedora's website.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

There are two main distribution of Sparky Linux - stable and semi-rolling. XFCE stable and Minimal GUI stable look different, but are, in fact, the same system. Minimal GUI stable and Minimal GUI semi-rolling look identical, but are two different systems.

Things are even more complicated with Puppy Linux. Different puppies may look the same, but often there are based on completely different systems. In case of Sparky the main base is still Debian (so the package manager and all administration tools are the same). In case of Puppy you can have Slackware-based Puppy, Ubuntu-based Puppy, Debian-based Puppy...

I know. I'm explaining the obvious stuff, but I'm really surprised by some posts in this topic. Default wallpaper and colour scheme are the most important elements of a distribution? Really?

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

And I have never heard of a distro called Hoppers Anonymous.

OK OK I'll leave, just point the way to the door.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

You post this:

I know. I'm explaining the obvious stuff, but I'm really surprised by some posts in this topic. Default wallpaper and colour scheme are the most important elements of a distribution? Really?

But on the previous page in this thread, you post this:

I base my opinion on the screenshots only.

Getting harder to take your opinion seriously.

Pirx

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You post this:
But on the previous page in this thread, you post this:

I base my opinion on the screenshots only.

Yes, my opinion about the default look in Mabox. It was  an answer to the claim that Sparky looks bad out of the box while Mabox is a beauty. I'm not judging Mabox as a whole. Like I said before, the default wallpaper and colour scheme are not things you should base your opinion about a distribution on. And sorry, it's not my fault that the screenshots on the website are four years old.

Getting harder to take your opinion seriously.

Getting harder to take this forum seriously when users are twisting other peoples' words, posting stuff like "KDE Plasma-based distro like Fedora" or talking about the default wallpaper like it's something important.

And what know? Are you gonna ask me why I'm here if I don't like it? Will you advise me that I'm free to leave? Or is it gonna be something else?

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

...KDE Plasma-based distro like Fedora...

Fedora is not a Plasma-based distro. I tried Fedora around a month ago and it was... the LXDE flavour. Does it mean that Fedora is a "retro" distribution? Absolutely not. The same with Sparky. When you choose LXQT, you shouldn't be surprised that it looks old-school. If you want a modern look, choose KDE. That applies to any distro. I don't understand why it's so difficult for some people to understand that a DE is not a distribution. It's just one element of a distribution.

I said Gnome- or KDE Plasma- based, referring to the two together. This is valid because the argument I was trying to make was about resource usage, and both are heavy on system resources compared to, say, XFce or LXQT.

Hope that helps.

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Pirx

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Hope that helps.

No, it doesn't. Fedora is not Gnome-based or KDE Plasma-based. Mint is not Cinnamon-based and Lubuntu is not LXQT-based.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

No, it doesn't. Fedora is not Gnome-based or KDE Plasma-based. Mint is not Cinnamon-based and Lubuntu is not LXQT-based.

Why is it then that when Fedora releases a beta, it's available in Gnome only, and then when an official release is made it's issued in all its various spins?

Clearly Gnome enjoys a status within the Fedora camp that the other DEs don't; the same is true of Mint and Cinnamon (there is also an XFce version of Mint).

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Pirx

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

They enjoy status of the main DEs, but you can't say that Fedora is Gnome-based or Mint is Cinnamon-based. Firefox ESR enjoys status of the default browser in Debian, but you can't say that Debian is Firefox ESR-based.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Debian's official desktop is GNOME

EDIT: and I'm using Chimera Linux, which targets GNOME as the first class desktop, so couldn't that be considered GNOME-based?

The primary/official desktop is GNOME, but others are available

https://chimera-linux.org/docs/configuration/desktops

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Pirx

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EDIT: and I'm using Chimera Linux, which targets GNOME as the first class desktop, so couldn't that be considered GNOME-based?

It's an independent distro not based on anything, but, hopefully, they include VICE in the .iso images. This way you will be able to call it a C-64-based distro.

I give up...

Pirx

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I'm trying Spiral Linux and it seems OK. It's basically preconfigured Debian with Calamares installer. It uses only official Debian repositories. If nothing goes wrong it may actually stay on my laptop for some time.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Added another Arch based distro to my main laptop.  Artix running openbox window manager.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I was looking at the Fedora site and it says:

Fedora Linux 42 promotes the Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop variant to full Edition status.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fe … ma-edition

So Fedora is now GNOME & KDE based. The other desktops have a lesser status, officially.

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Colonel Panic

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I was looking at the Fedora site and it says:

Fedora Linux 42 promotes the Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop variant to full Edition status.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fe … ma-edition

So Fedora is now GNOME & KDE based. The other desktops have a lesser status, officially.

Thanks for the clarification, I stand corrected. I notice that there's a COSMIC edition now too?

Pirx

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Added another Arch based distro to my main laptop.  Artix running openbox window manager.

https://i.postimg.cc/yWSGD2sC/artix-Screenshot-2025-04-16-07-45-06.png

I like your desktop. You organize it exactly the same way I do.

I don't use Arch, BTW.

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Just downloaded FunOS, a Ubuntu 25.04-based distro with JWM as its window manager. It's very much a minimalist distro; it comes with no e-mail client or office suite so if you want those you have to install them separately (though it does come with SMPlayer for multimedia files).

I also made a couple of changes to MX Fluxbox+ and saved them to a snapshot iso file.

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I've finally found a distro that used Regolith by default - Alien OS Regolith version, which is based on MX.

It's certainly different but it's an over 4 GB download.

It offers Floorp as a standard for web browsing, which is certainly unusual, in addition to Tor; and has Only Office for its office suite and Evolution for e-mail etc. I found it a bit of a hassle to get everything working in English though (it's a German distro and my first attempt at choosing a keyboard map ended up as Swedish).

Definitely one for those who want to take a chance on something a bit different.

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