Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic · 2024-09-06 13:03:48

Thanks for the reply, and I can believe it.

I agree about Dobbie and ArchLabs though, and there have been others; the chief developer of Mabox (a Polish distro that is based on Manjaro) used to post here too, though I haven't seen him here recently and don't know whether or not he still does.

In other news; CalciumSodium (a poster on the AntiX forums) has put together an iso based on AntiX but upgraded to the Sid repositories and with a few modifications to increase its security (for example, the two browsers it includes are Librewolf and Ungoogled Chromium with UBlock Origin).

It uses IceWM as its default window manager though the other two that AntiX normally comes with, JWM and Fluxbox, are also available. It's a 2.1 GB download, which is quite big for an AntiX spinoff.

I've been trying it out today and it works well; though I'm not enamoured with the all-black wallpaper, that is of course easily changed.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2024-09-06 13:56:17)

Sector11 · 2024-09-06 14:11:08

You're welcome CP. It's nice to know that the ARCH form mentality does not apply to all ARCH users.

My D-hopping days are over. I like stability.

shortarcflyer · 2024-09-06 15:50:06

Since ArchBang will soon be a distro of the past, I replaced it with another Arch based distro. RebornOS with openbox window manager now resides where ArchBang once was.

Colonel Panic · 2024-09-06 16:18:27

Sector11 wrote:

You're welcome CP. It's nice to know that the ARCH form mentality does not apply to all ARCH users.
My D-hopping days are over. I like stability.

Good for you! It seems that my own distro-hopping days aren't over yet though I don't "hop" as often as I used to.

I'm lucky enough to have a hard drive with 500 GB of space, so it almost seems a waste to only have one distro on it, and it came with Mint already on it which I still use. I can't see myself going too far from Debian in some form or other for most of my computing needs though because it does so many things right - for one thing, you can upgrade it (especially Debian Stable) and be pretty confident that nothing will break and everything will still work afterwards.

Döbbie03 · 2024-09-06 18:31:47

Colonel Panic wrote:

I seem to be one of the few people here who's never really got on board with Arch. It's just too difficult to update without breaking something, and the user's forum is also notoriously unfriendly and intolerant of fools - or those its regulars consider to be fools.
When I was posting on the ArchBang forum, we were all told not to post any questions about ArchBang on the main Arch forum because its users wouldn't appreciate it. IMO, it's that kind of pettiness that puts newbies off trying a Linux distro.

Yeah, the superiority is high at the Arch Forums, which is really unfounded as the distro isn't that difficult to install.
I think you will find the majority of Arch users are all pretty friendly, as it is with most things, it's the loud minority that ruin it for the rest of us.

Pinhead · 2024-09-06 20:04:39

Fedora 41 Gnome 47 alfa

dhalgren · 2024-09-06 21:41:14

@Sector11 and @Colonel Panic:

Ditto on Arch, though I did try Archbang for a while, but found the learning curve a little too much (laziness, not difficulty, I have to admit.)

I began on Mandrake and Suse because I wouldn't install Debian, knowing nothing about linux at the time. (I knew only that I loathed Windows, even though I continue to keep it installed for those all too frequent moments when my adult sons want to use my computer, though even they are beginning to boot into BL these days). That was around 2001 and I distro hopped madly until I found Crunchbang via Ubuntu forums, and have been there and here since, with no self-perceived need to try anything new.

I even tried Slackware, but no, laziness about learning struck again, and provided me with a quiet giggle.

None the less, I thoroughy enjy reading this thread. It keeps me up to date with some of what is happening, which is good.

Sector11 · 2024-09-07 03:02:53

dhalgren wrote:

@Sector11 and @Colonel Panic:
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None the less, I thoroughy enjy reading this thread. It keeps me up to date with some of what is happening, which is good.

Yea, that me too. I like reading this thread.
And I remember having 3 HHD's and 5 distros here.

unklar · 2024-09-07 12:07:49

Build Debian ISO's yourself
https://linuxnews.de/debian-live-iso-selbst-bauen/
https://fai-project.org/FAIme/

source wrote:

Simple configuration
First you choose between basic and advanced configuration. In the first case, you can first define user. Password, localization and desktop can be defined. FAI.me builds images for both stable and testing. The desktop environment can also be specified. Care should be taken when selecting additional packages to be installed. If a package is specified that is not available in the selected suite, the installation will fail after a few minutes. An immediate check at the start of the build would be desirable here.
The option to include backports only works with Stable, but is also offered when selecting Testing. However, the build process does not fail because of this. Furthermore, developer tools, a web server, Open-SSH and non-free Linux firmware can be included by ticking the box. The firmware tick is particularly important when using the latest hardware.

I have just created a trixie/Lxde live iso, downloaded it and put it on the stick with dd.
First experience:
-works perfectly on the computer on which the ISO is created (this was a laptop)
the resolution is not correct on the desktop

But, you don't have to put it on a USB stick first, you can also install it on the first partition if you wish.

Colonel Panic · 2024-09-12 14:05:29

Exton has just uploaded a new version of his CruxEX live distro, which is based on Crux but specially modified with extra software and to be able to run as a live disk. I'm posting from it now and looking forward to installing it to a live disk and seeing how I get on with adding additional programs to it; like most Exton distros / respins it doesn't come with an office suite.

Be warned though; a beginner's distro it really isn't (although Exton's version is a bit more user friendly than the original Crux). With its ports system it's more like one of the BSDs than another Linux distro; in fact, I suspect that for some of its users that's the attraction.

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Colonel Panic · 2024-09-15 18:36:05

A much easier one today; Calcium Sodium on the AntiX forums has recently released a respin of AntiX based on Debian Unstable and with several tweaks to make it more security conscious - for example there's Libre Wolf instead of Firefox, and Chromium comes in the "Ungoogled" version. It also has a number of different inits installed to choose from at bootup.

Here's the link in case anyone's interested;

https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic … id-respin/

First impressions are favourable; although it's a bit plain visually you can always add a good wallpaper. One thing to bear in mind though is that being based on the unstable version of Debian there are more updates necessary than on the standard version of AntiX based on Debian Stable.

[Edit: the internet connection has failed for some reason. Will reinstall later and try and figure out what was going on.]

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Colonel Panic · 2024-09-22 19:38:44

Currently upgrading my Debian Stable partition to Testing. It was surprisingly easy to set in motion; although it takes quite a long time to download and install all the new packages, I can do other things whilst it's going on (I'm posting this from Seamonkey).

I'll see how it works out. I've been pretty happy with Stable on the whole so the clincher will be whether or not I get the same level of stability as I've had before with somewhat more up to date software than Stable has. If I don't, I've still got the old installation disk so nothing will be lost.

Here are the instructions I used;

https://linuxiac.com/how-to-switch-from … o-testing/

[Update: I'm posting from Testing right now and I can't say I see a lot of difference between it and Debian Stable; even Firefox is still at version 115. Maybe the best solution is to stick with Stable and have backported applications for when you want or really need something up to date, such as Firefox 130.]

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2024-10-03 02:26:24)

DeepDayze · 2024-09-23 02:19:12

unklar wrote:

Build Debian ISO's yourself
https://linuxnews.de/debian-live-iso-selbst-bauen/
https://fai-project.org/FAIme/

source wrote:
Simple configuration
First you choose between basic and advanced configuration. In the first case, you can first define user. Password, localization and desktop can be defined. FAI.me builds images for both stable and testing. The desktop environment can also be specified. Care should be taken when selecting additional packages to be installed. If a package is specified that is not available in the selected suite, the installation will fail after a few minutes. An immediate check at the start of the build would be desirable here.
The option to include backports only works with Stable, but is also offered when selecting Testing. However, the build process does not fail because of this. Furthermore, developer tools, a web server, Open-SSH and non-free Linux firmware can be included by ticking the box. The firmware tick is particularly important when using the latest hardware.
I have just created a trixie/Lxde live iso, downloaded it and put it on the stick with dd.
First experience:
-works perfectly on the computer on which the ISO is created (this was a laptop)
the resolution is not correct on the desktop
But, you don't have to put it on a USB stick first, you can also install it on the first partition if you wish.

This would be useful for building a custom graphical rescue CD no doubt as you can include some good rescue tools in the image and a browser and IRC client of choice (useful for getting help!).

Thanks for sharing this

altman · 2024-09-23 12:50:06

Have Cachy OS on my desktop & still BL on my craptop.

darknetmatrix · 2024-09-25 07:44:18

@altman been doing cachyos for a long time? How do you like the arch base, currently I run fedora on desktop 1, opensuse tumbleweed on desktop 2 and debian stable on my laptop and I must say all three run well although my preference is opensuse which in my opinion deserves a little more love from the community.

altman · 2024-09-25 10:18:03

darknetmatrix wrote:

@altman been doing cachyos for a long time? How do you like the arch base, currently I run fedora on desktop 1, opensuse tumbleweed on desktop 2 and debian stable on my laptop and I must say all three run well although my preference is opensuse which in my opinion deserves a little more love from the community.

I really like it,I had to have an Arch-Derived distro as AL s out, so I choose that one @darknetmatrix.I ve been using it for 2-3 mints I would think of.I also use ArchCraft here & there, lightweith enough, looks like a wrapper to arch basically on my side.

As I have an NVidia GPU on this desktop, CachyOS it works out of the box without doing anything at install ( which is a real + ), but not perfect as some kernel & nvidia updates can end up into plymouth at boot !

I have the XFCE version installed.I don t really like its OpenBox version oddly enough & I don t want to mess tweaking it weirdly enough.

Their kernel versions are pretty impressive I must say if you re into that kind of thing.

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PackRat · 2024-09-25 21:41:36

altman wrote:

Have Cachy OS on my desktop & still BL on my craptop.

Which CachyOS desktop environment/window manager did you go with?

altman · 2024-09-25 21:54:23

PackRat wrote:

altman wrote:
Have Cachy OS on my desktop & still BL on my craptop.
Which CachyOS desktop environment/window manager did you go with?

Oh, XFCE @PackRat, back to an old love of mine ! lol

From my Siduction/Aptosid days.

Last edited by altman (2024-09-25 21:54:46)

PackRat · 2024-09-26 20:10:20

altman wrote:

PackRat wrote:
altman wrote:
Have Cachy OS on my desktop & still BL on my craptop.
Which CachyOS desktop environment/window manager did you go with?
Oh, XFCE @PackRat, back to an old love of mine ! lol
From my Siduction/Aptosid days.

Aptosid - now there's a blast from the past.

Just installed CachyOS KDE on the testing laptop. Running pretty smooth.

altman · 2024-09-26 21:58:04

PackRat wrote:

altman wrote:
PackRat wrote:
Which CachyOS desktop environment/window manager did you go with?
Oh, XFCE @PackRat, back to an old love of mine ! lol
From my Siduction/Aptosid days.
Aptosid - now there's a blast from the past.
Just installed CachyOS KDE on the testing laptop. Running pretty smooth.

Lol @PackRat, yes sir concerning Aptosid.

One of the things thing that I like is their choice of kernel

One can also use Tuned ( not in CachyOS) as you can also use it on a lappy, as one can adapt it on powersave pr something alike.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/tuned

https://computingforgeeks.com/optimize- … tuned-adm/

Edit;On Arch I would think it neees an hekper since in the AUR, s I use PikAUR on my end.

If interested;

https://github.com/actionless/pikaur

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