Beryllium ISO? (extremely slow Boron)

tahoebunsen · 2024-03-09 12:03:01

Hello Bunsenlab Folks-

Congrats on the Boron iteration of this great distro. It looks great!

Unfortunately, it is running extremely slow on my Macbook 11,1 (2013 Macbook Pro), and I'd like to revert to Beryllium, which ran very well on my machine.

Where may I find the Beryllium ISO?

Thank you,
Tahoebunsen

hhh · 2024-03-09 16:30:24

You can find the 32 and 64 bit ISOs here...

http://ddl.bunsenlabs.org/ddl/

Very odd that Boron would run worse than Beryllium. Anyway, Beryllium is based on Debian bullseye which had an update just last month...

https://www.debian.org/News/2024/2024021002

I'm not sure how bullseye's long term support is being handled, but its supposed to be getting security updates until the summer of 2026. You'll want to read this page and follow the links on it for more info...

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS

tahoebunsen · 2024-07-15 23:44:21

Thanks very much, hhh!

(Apologies for my tardy response.)

Pinhead · 2024-07-16 04:50:55

Boron ran too slowly for me. Turning off the rounded corners helped.

johnraff · 2024-07-16 05:47:05

Turning off composition altogether might help on older machines. Menu>User Settings>Compositor>Disable Compositing

tahoebunsen · 2024-08-16 04:56:23

Thank you, John. That has definitely sped up the system.

Pinhead, would you tell me how to turn off the rounded corners?

Pinhead · 2024-08-16 05:41:28

Add the following to your rc.xml file, in the <theme> section:

<cornerRadius>4</cornerRadius>

Replace "4" with your preferred size. Remove or set to 0 to disable rounded corners. Defaults to square (legacy) corners.

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=3173

tahoebunsen · 2024-08-16 19:07:49

That's great. Thank you, Pinhead.

johnraff · 2024-08-17 02:44:37

johnraff wrote:

Turning off composition altogether might help on older machines. Menu>User Settings>Compositor>Disable Compositing

tahoebunsen wrote:

Thank you, John. That has definitely sped up the system.

To make it permanent you'll want to edit your autostart file: Menu>User Settings>BunsenLabs Session>Edit autostart
Find this line (~ 114), and precede it with a hashmark to comment it out:

#    bl-compositor --start

tahoebunsen · 2024-08-20 00:24:23

Ah, great idea. Will do, thank you, John.

As a follow-up, it turns out that Boron, even with compositor disabled, is very slow on my MacBook 11,1 (Late 2013). I've researched and come up with no solutions other than the above suggestions, which helped marginally.

Anyway, I'm very happy with Beryllium, but am hoping this remedies itself with the next release.

johnraff · 2024-08-20 06:00:22

tahoebunsen wrote:

...it turns out that Boron, even with compositor disabled, is very slow on my MacBook 11,1 (Late 2013). I've researched and come up with no solutions other than the above suggestions, which helped marginally.
Anyway, I'm very happy with Beryllium, but am hoping this remedies itself with the next release.

Until we know why it's slow on Boron, there's no guarantee it will be better on Carbon!

If the menu is slow to appear, then try disabling the menu icons. Menu>User Settings>jgmenu>Edit Menu Settings
Around line 20, set:

icon_size           = 0

---
Apart from that, how is your memory consumption? Bring up htop with Menu>System Settings>Task Manager (htop)
You can see your total RAM near the top, and order processes by RAM usage by clicking on the header that says [MEM%]
Have you still got free memory? Is there a process using more than it should?

tahoebunsen · 2024-09-30 18:02:05

Thank you, John. With only one computer, I can't test Boron (etc) without diminishing my work productivity so I've just stayed with Beryllium. It's the best linux OS I've used! Great work.

tahoebunsen · 2024-10-14 11:33:40

Hi John-

Out of a desire to run an updated kernel, I reloaded Boron and discovered that the system slows to a crawl only when/if I've changed the BLOB to Lithium, which is my absolute favorite of the options.

Any idea why that occurs?

Thanks.

johnraff · 2024-10-15 01:57:27

^I'm on a Boron system and I've just used Blob to restore the Lithium desktop theme.
There were no particular problems, but during the setup I was prompted to install a wallpaper archive package to get the Lithium background, and the Bunsen Papirus icons package. Both those installations ran OK and now I have a Lithium desktop theme, and nothing running slowly.

Anyway, it's good that you have pinned the problem down to Blob. What you can try next is, on a standard Boron system, open a terminal and run Blob in debug mode:

bl-obthemes --help # to see options
bl-obthemes --debug

Now try to enable the Lithium theme the usual way and see if the script hangs at any point. Maybe there are some error messages?

tahoebunsen · 2024-12-01 17:49:33

Hello again, John.

I could not find any bugs per your instruction above, but the lagging Boron continued on my 2013 Macbook Pro (11,1).

So, per a previous suggestion or yours, I installed Debian 12 Bookworm using their '64_bit_PC_netinst' ISO, and then I used the Bunsenlabs Net Install script to install the Boron on top of the vanilla Debian (only checking 'standard system utilities' and not setting a root password during net install process).

I was assuming that I'd encounter the same problems and would have to work backwards, reinstalling BL via the 'lite' net install script (and then 'base,' if necessary), debugging as I went, however the 'full' install is working splendidly--and speedily. Go figure.

I'm so happy to have my favorite distro (and Bunsenlabs BLOB, Lithium) up and running that I'm not going to jinx it by diving into a rabbit hole.

I have a feeling this won't make sense to anyone of your developer caliber either, but shall I change the title to 'solved' nonetheless?

Thanks for your help!

Last edited by tahoebunsen (2024-12-01 17:51:12)

johnraff · 2024-12-03 08:43:11

How about adding [WORKAROUND] to the title?
We still don't know why Blob seemed to be slowing things down before, and it's just possible someone else might hit the same issue some day. It would be nice to know what it was!

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