Carbon Themes (proposal)

hhh · 2024-08-07 16:20:34

oomox is still usable, but then you have little glitches like ugly background colors in places...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=8927

Creating a gtk 2/3/4/libadwaita theme from scratch is beyong my abilities.

I've been using yaru-theme-gtk themes for over a year. The package provides light and dark themes with a variety of highlight colors. I could make a set of matching Openbox themes (which also means labwc themes), done.

THoughts?

PackRat · 2024-08-07 18:26:49

Sounds like an efficient way to go about it. Make some openbox themes to go with some preferred yaru gtk. You getting the yaru themes from gnome-look or a git page?

How many yaru theme variants are there? Just thinking about iso size, you may just want to go with a couple of your favorites.

hhh · 2024-08-07 22:16:47

They're Ubuntu themes (based on Adwaita) that have been in official Debian as of bookworm...

https://packages.debian.org/trixie/yaru-theme-gtk

The accent colors are default (Ubuntu orange), bark, blue, magenta (looks more purple to me than what they call purple, which is tinted a little blue), olive (more green than olive-green, if you ask me), purple, prussian-green, red (not even close, more like fuschia), sage and viridian. I color-picked them...

default https://www.color-hex.com/color/e95420
bark https://www.color-hex.com/color/787859
blue https://www.color-hex.com/color/0073e5
magenta https://www.color-hex.com/color/b34cb3
olive https://www.color-hex.com/color/4b8501
prussian-green https://www.color-hex.com/color/308280
purple https://www.color-hex.com/color/7764d8
red https://www.color-hex.com/color/da3450
viridian https://www.color-hex.com/color/03875b
sage https://www.color-hex.com/color/708975

It's a good set of colors, IMO, there's usually one in there that works with your wallpaper of choice. I wish they had included a yellow one, oh well.

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I forgot to mention, they have matching icon sets...

https://packages.debian.org/trixie/all/yaru-theme-icon

PackRat · 2024-08-08 00:28:40

I thought you might be using these. This is the set I use.

https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1299514

There are yellow and amber variants in that package.

Yaru is nice. The themes work with any gui app I use (granted that's not a whole lot).

hhh · 2024-08-08 01:47:27

^ I've looked at that but haven't tried the install yet. I'll have to do that.

johnraff · 2024-08-08 10:00:00

This all looks very sensible. Any chance of a sample screenshot?

That package is pretty chubby, so we could consider breaking it into "base" and "extra" versions as we've already done with other things.

In any case, you graphics people will have to choose a default colour - we can't just throw a whole collection at people, we need something we can say "this is our default desktop" IMO.

So that will mean choosing a matching wallpaper too.

hhh · 2024-08-08 16:07:57

Here's Yaru-prussiangreen-dark gtk and icons with our current desktop (jgmenu are @johnraff's current default as is the OB theme), just to get a quick idea...

I forgot that the systray icons in tint2 are just the old GNOME icons. They don't look good, we'd need to symlink to other icons (to scalable, for instance).

As to the icon package, we would need to include Yaru and the light version of whichever color we go with. Yaru-dark and the other dark icons are just an index.theme file.

Plenty of time still to come up with other ideas, but better that I proposed this sooner than later. :^D

PackRat · 2024-08-08 16:31:00

johnraff wrote:

This all looks very sensible. Any chance of a sample screenshot?

Nice cohesive themes; light and dark variants of each. Quick openbox bark theme to match:

Package favors green tints.

altman · 2024-08-08 20:14:27

PackRat wrote:

johnraff wrote:
This all looks very sensible. Any chance of a sample screenshot?
Nice cohesive themes; light and dark variants of each. Quick openbox bark theme to match:
https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/a0/a8/Hb5xYRtT_t.png
https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/6f/3b/GNDnZTZY_t.png
Package favors green tints.

Top @PackRat

johnraff · 2024-08-09 01:57:27

@PackRat and @hhh those GTK themes look nice, especially Bark Dark, I thought.

Agreed icons seem to need attention though. Tint2 should be using whatever icon theme has been set in lxappearance. Problem is that even after a tint2 restart it keeps the previous icon theme - caching somewhere I guess, but I've no idea how to clear it. To get tint2 to use the current icon theme you have to log out and back in. If that fixes those Gnome icons then we're OK.

hhh wrote:

Plenty of time still to come up with other ideas, but better that I proposed this sooner than later.

Yes indeed. If we have a placeholder Carbon theme, we can put it in the Carbon packages so people will be able to easily tell them from Boron.

hhh · 2024-08-09 02:12:26

johnraff wrote:

Yes indeed. If we have a placeholder Carbon theme, we can put it in the Carbon packages so people will be able to easily tell them from Boron.

When do you want that by? I guess sooner rather than later, like this thread. :^D

I'll start wallpaper hunting. Maybe use @micko01's trixie theme proposal to start?

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Theme … lpaper.svg

It's 1920x1080 and an svg, so a good starting size, scalable, and easy enough to swap the Debian logos out for BL ones. Color shift it if needed to work with bark or one of the other themes (sage is another nice one, IMO).

It does remind me too much of Debian's SpaceFun from squeeze, though. No offense, micko!

hhh · 2024-08-09 02:25:31

There's also this wall I edited which I could edit some more (color shift again, less color vibrancy and logo swap)...

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/hhhor … 0_1200.png

Could work well with a rectangular tint2 like we've always used.

johnraff · 2024-08-09 04:59:58

hhh wrote:

There's also this wall I edited which I could edit some more (color shift again, less color vibrancy and logo swap)...
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/hhhor … 0_1200.png
Could work well with a rectangular tint2 like we've always used.

Like, drop the picom round corners this time? Sure, that looks quite good.

Anyway, for now just a placeholder would be nice, so when people view it in their VM they know right away that it's Carbon not Boron.

hhh · 2024-08-09 13:05:34

johnraff wrote:

Like, drop the picom round corners this time? Sure, that looks quite good.

Hmm, I wasn't paying attention. Rounded corners are modern and cool, and set us apart from other OB setups I've seen. We're not migrating to labwc for this release, are we? If we do that, I'd be all for square corners. But I think BL Wayland should just be a side project for this release. Openbox, tint2, picom, jgmenu, and xfce4-notifyd and -power-manager are all still available in trixie and even sid.

We really nailed our picom settings with boron, didn't we?

Anyway, for now just a placeholder would be nice, so when people view it in their VM they know right away that it's Carbon not Boron.

Right, I'll work on it. Guess it's time to split my disk space and install BL again!

johnraff · 2024-08-10 02:48:43

hhh wrote:

johnraff wrote:
Like, drop the picom round corners this time? Sure, that looks quite good.
Hmm, I wasn't paying attention. Rounded corners are modern and cool, and set us apart from other OB setups I've seen.

Agreed those round corners do look nice.
I thought you were suggesting that the square lines of that wallpaper called for square window corners to match, which also makes sense, for a sort of Piet Mondriaan 1920's look...

We're not migrating to labwc for this release, are we?

( My reply is moved here "Wayland and BunsenLabs": https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 79#p136879 )

We really nailed our picom settings with boron, didn't we?

Yes, Boron is the first BL release I've been using as-is with no tweaks to the graphics at all*. It looks so nice!

* EDIT: Well, except for using the horizontal tint2 and switching off menu icons.

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hhh · 2024-08-10 02:54:17

johnraff wrote:

I thought you were suggesting that the square lines of that wallpaper called for square window corners to match

I was!

johnraff wrote:

Piet Mondriaan

Great reference, though I'm more of a Rothko fan, which might actually work with rounded-corner windows...

https://www.nga.gov/collection/art-obje … 56350.html

I had a print of this, or a similar one (I'm pretty sure it was Orange and Yellow, not tan), on my wall in college.

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hhh · 2024-08-10 03:03:34

IMO... Stay with OB and lightdm, because we also have light-locker tied into that, and trying to get a cross X11/wlroots screen-locker is not in the cards in the near future. Make BL-Wayland it's own separate, experimental thing for now.

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EDIT by johnraff: reply is now here: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 80#p136880

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micko01 · 2024-08-10 03:18:15

Here's a link to an un-branded desert-moonrise-FHD image (progress-100.png in the plymouth theme) if anyone wants to play with it.

hhh wrote:

It does remind me too much of Debian's SpaceFun from squeeze, though. No offense, micko!

lol! None taken

hhh · 2024-08-10 03:24:38

^ Thanks for the image!

micko01 · 2024-08-10 04:36:27

The Yaru-prussiangreen-dark gtk theme is a good fit for boron themes. Nice @hhh

The launcher is 'wofi', gtk but wayland specific.

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