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hhh wrote:Wasn't Ikey also part of the original Linux Mint development? Also worked on the Budgie desktop.
-edit- Yup...
https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=1655
Something bad happened though, Ikey quit. I don't know the story.
From that point he then quit and moved on again. Since those things have happened I have not had any trust in anything he is involved with. YMMV
Same here. I actually actively avoid it.
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He did have that crazy avatar of a baby wearing a Vietnam-era Army helmet. Am I remembering that right?
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Unstable genius?
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Just installed MX 23.3 KDE, and it's all working well (I had a couple of problems with the last version). It doesn't take up much space for a KDE distro and also of course has all the MX tools as standard (including the boot repair for the times when Grub breaks).
For me the usual visual gripes with MX are still there (it's got a rather dull dark grey theme with a modern art wallpaper which looks like a modernist sculpture on a grey background, the icons are flat and "blocky," and for me, most seriously, the font used in the menu and the text below the icons is faint and not very clear), but a lot can be ameliorated with the right wallpaper, such as this one;
https://www.pixelstalk.net/wp-content/u … ers-HD.jpg
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... (it's got a rather dull dark grey theme with a modern art wallpaper which looks like a modernist sculpture on a grey background, the icons are flat and "blocky," and for me, most seriously, the font used in the menu and the text below the icons is faint and not very clear)...
Scathing review! Funny, too, because wasn't their last release quite colorful, with a pink/red floral wallpaper?
Anyway, can't be too critical of grey. #!, you know. ![]()
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Anyway, can't be too critical of grey. #!, you know.
I quite like the look of CrunchBang (and CrunchBang++, if I'm allowed to mention it on here). Different shade of grey I suppose. All I did in that review was copy quote what I'd said about MX earlier in this thread.
As you know though, it's easier to change the aesthetics of a distro once you've got it running well than it is to take one that looks good and make it run better.
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Distro-hoppers thread so yup #!++ is should be allowed by all means. ![]()
I like grey - or dark walls - easier on my eyes.
Still have some old #! walls:
/media/5/Wallpapers/cb/cb.cb.symbol.jpg
/media/5/Wallpapers/cb/cb.CrunchBang.png
/media/5/Wallpapers/cb/cb.velvet.noise.jpg
/media/5/Wallpapers/cb/cb.velvet.noise.NESW.jpg
I should have kept more.
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Anyway, can't be too critical of grey. #!, you know.
CrunchBang managed to make grey quite cool-looking IMO, and a lot of people still like it.
It was very carefully done though.
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@johnraff, never used CrunchBang but looked it up. I too like the different shades of grey. I understand now that BL is a continuance of CrunchBang and think you guys have done it justice and then some. ![]()
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I've just updated Nobara, which I've had a few problems with recently, and it all seems to be running fine again.
I don't play many games so I got rid of Steam, and then installed Openbox, LXPanel and Conky. I could be well on the way to a FedoraBang (is there a demand for one?).
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{snip} I could be well on the way to a FedoraBang (is there a demand for one?).
ALWAYS!!
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Thanks for replying Sector.
I think Fedora is a pretty good base for a Bunsen-type distro or spin - its software is mostly up to date but it's stable and easy to keep current if you update it reasonably regularly. OpenSUSE is another option although its future at the moment appears to be less certain.
I've already tried one of the official Openbox-based Fedora spins (LXDE) but sadly couldn't get it to install, so to me it makes more sense to start with a Fedora-based distro I already have on my hard drive such as Nobara and adapt it to make it more lightweight and (for me) more user-friendly by installing Openbox etc. in it.
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Thanks for replying Sector.
I think Fedora is a pretty good base for a Bunsen-type distro or spin - its software is mostly up to date but it's stable and easy to keep current if you update it reasonably regularly. OpenSUSE is another option although its future at the moment appears to be less certain.
I've already tried one of the official Openbox-based Fedora spins (LXDE) but sadly couldn't get it to install, so to me it makes more sense to start with a Fedora-based distro I already have on my hard drive such as Nobara and adapt it to make it more lightweight and (for me) more user-friendly by installing Openbox etc. in it.
Perhaps you could try installing the minimal Fedora base system then install OB and friends and set it up much like BL with maybe hack the BL scripts and utilities to enable them to run under Fedora. Arch is also a good base for BL like setups (The old Archlabs comes to mind).
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Colonel Panic wrote:Thanks for replying Sector.
I think Fedora is a pretty good base for a Bunsen-type distro or spin - its software is mostly up to date but it's stable and easy to keep current if you update it reasonably regularly. OpenSUSE is another option although its future at the moment appears to be less certain.
I've already tried one of the official Openbox-based Fedora spins (LXDE) but sadly couldn't get it to install, so to me it makes more sense to start with a Fedora-based distro I already have on my hard drive such as Nobara and adapt it to make it more lightweight and (for me) more user-friendly by installing Openbox etc. in it.
Perhaps you could try installing the minimal Fedora base system then install OB and friends and set it up much like BL with maybe hack the BL scripts and utilities to enable them to run under Fedora. Arch is also a good base for BL like setups (The old Archlabs comes to mind).
Thanks for replying Deep Dayze. I don't have the Fedora base system to hand but I've tried it with Fedora Cinnamon and there's too much extra stuff you need to install to even compile a program like tint2 - it doesn't even have CMake or Git as standard.
You don't realise how spoilt you are with Debian stable (and maybe Slackware too in this regard, though Slack has other issues such as dependency handling).
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DeepDayze wrote:Colonel Panic wrote:Thanks for replying Sector.
I think Fedora is a pretty good base for a Bunsen-type distro or spin - its software is mostly up to date but it's stable and easy to keep current if you update it reasonably regularly. OpenSUSE is another option although its future at the moment appears to be less certain.
I've already tried one of the official Openbox-based Fedora spins (LXDE) but sadly couldn't get it to install, so to me it makes more sense to start with a Fedora-based distro I already have on my hard drive such as Nobara and adapt it to make it more lightweight and (for me) more user-friendly by installing Openbox etc. in it.
Perhaps you could try installing the minimal Fedora base system then install OB and friends and set it up much like BL with maybe hack the BL scripts and utilities to enable them to run under Fedora. Arch is also a good base for BL like setups (The old Archlabs comes to mind).
Thanks for replying Deep Dayze. I don't have the Fedora base system to hand but I've tried it with Fedora Cinnamon and there's too much extra stuff you need to install to even compile a program like tint2 - it doesn't even have CMake or Git as standard.
You don't realise how spoilt you are with Debian stable (and maybe Slackware too in this regard, though Slack has other issues such as dependency handling).
Lol agreed, Debian has most if not all of the build tools as part of a default install and installing the build-essential package brings in any that might be missing. Fedora is more of a workstation/server type distro and undoubtedly quite solid. Think there's a spin for installing as a server OS where it has minimal package set installed along with some server tools, but that could be adapted for building a custom setup.
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Yes, there's a good reason why so many distros (and distro spins) are built on a Debian base; it's just so easy to administer as well as being very comprehensive in what it provides. Debian Stable is also (as its name suggests) very stable and reliable.
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In other news; I've just installed OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, having read good things about it recently from people on Reddit, and so far it's working well.
I'm glad I'm no longer on an 80GB a month limit with my ISP though. Just installing the updates alone (which you tick a box for when you're installing the distro) took up 1.3 GB, and that's before you get to downloading any other software you want such as Opera, Strawberry, Thunderbird etc. because the distro is quite miserly about the amount of application software it installs.
You're also only allowed to select one desktop environment for installation, so you can't for example have both KDE and Xfce; it has to be one or the other.
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After some distroHopping late craze ( it was halted for a bit ! lol) I m back on BL Carbon/Trixie with Xanmod kernel on my laptop & CachyOS XFCE on my desktop.
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I have been playing with antiX, dsl2024, 4MLinux and Magiea on my testing laptop. They are fun to play with but I will stick with my Arch based distros, Void, and PCLinuxOS for my everyday uses.
I use Arch BTW! If it is not rolling, it is stagnant!
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After much distro hopping I currently have on desktop 1 debian trixie/sid (cinnamon), on desktop 2 LMDE (cinnamon) and on my laptop debian bookworm (gnome).
Should I suddenly decide to replace one it will be back debian, lmde or fedora, I have decided not to run any more small scale distros because sooner or later they die a quiet death.
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