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PackRat · 2024-02-11 13:32:35

unklar wrote:

In Thunar no partitions can be mounted with 'click'. What else is missing?

I think you still need the gvfs packages installed.

unklar · 2024-02-11 16:23:17

Thank you, PackRat. Unfortunately.

Only gvfs-backend and gvfs-fuse were missing.
No improvement after that either.

That gave me the idea to run journalctl -af and the result is getting better and I also installed pkexec.
Anyway, I now have an error message.

journalctl -af
Feb 11 16:51:17 sway systemd[1418]: Started gvfs-mtp-volume-monitor.service - Virtual filesystem service - Media Transfer Protocol monitor.
Feb 11 16:51:17 sway dbus-daemon[1446]: [session uid=1000 pid=1446] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gtk.vfs.Metadata' unit='gvfs-metadata.service' requested by ':1.19' (uid=1000 pid=2084 comm="thunar")
Feb 11 16:51:17 sway systemd[1418]: Starting gvfs-metadata.service - Virtual filesystem metadata service...
Feb 11 16:51:17 sway dbus-daemon[1446]: [session uid=1000 pid=1446] Successfully activated service 'org.gtk.vfs.Metadata'
Feb 11 16:51:17 sway systemd[1418]: Started gvfs-metadata.service - Virtual filesystem metadata service.
Feb 11 16:51:17 sway dbus-daemon[1446]: [session uid=1000 pid=1446] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1' unit='tumblerd.service' requested by ':1.19' (uid=1000 pid=2084 comm="thunar")
Feb 11 16:51:17 sway systemd[1418]: Starting tumblerd.service - Thumbnailing service...
Feb 11 16:51:18 sway dbus-daemon[1446]: [session uid=1000 pid=1446] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.thumbnails.Thumbnailer1'
Feb 11 16:51:18 sway systemd[1418]: Started tumblerd.service - Thumbnailing service.
Feb 11 16:51:31 sway systemd[1]: snapperd.service: Deactivated successfully.

Feb 11 16:51:43 sway kernel: polkit-gnome-au[1520]: segfault at 0 ip 0000000000000000 sp 00007ffc3ba7b438 error 14 in polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1[5645e574e000+4000] likely on CPU 2 (core 2, socket 0)
Feb 11 16:51:43 sway kernel: Code: Unable to access opcode bytes at 0xffffffffffffffd6.
Feb 11 16:51:43 sway polkitd[528]: Unregistered Authentication Agent for unix-session:1 (system bus name :1.23, object path /org/gnome/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale de_DE.UTF-8) (disconnected from bus)
Feb 11 16:51:43 sway polkit-agent-helper-1[2417]: pam_unix(polkit-1:auth): conversation failed
Feb 11 16:51:43 sway polkit-agent-helper-1[2417]: pam_unix(polkit-1:auth): auth could not identify password for [root]
Feb 11 16:51:43 sway polkitd[528]: Operator of unix-session:1 FAILED to authenticate to gain authorization for action org.freedesktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount-system for system-bus-name::1.26 [/usr/libexec/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor] (owned by unix-user:unklarer)

In the sway-wiki I had read something about pekexc...

unklar · 2024-02-11 19:13:29

As it happens, I didn't find anything about the problem in the wiki. But how to change the theme, mouse pointer and icons (lxappearance is no longer available)
So, BL-Litium is doing very well!

unklar · 2024-02-13 07:58:05

The problem is still unsolved, although I think I have worked through all the documentation and error messages.

So for the time being I can state:
- sway with Xwayland (a dependency in labwc) works
- sway with Wayland does not work (no PW query appears when mounting (click in Thunar) other partitions. Apparently the 'connection to the display' (?) is missing.

Colonel Panic · 2024-02-15 23:19:56

I installed Pop! 22.04 today and found that grub in it doesn't probe the hard drive for my other partitions, so I installed one of the newest spins on AntiX (the one with a variety of init systems available, including s6) as well, which does (still) probe the drive.

See the announcement here;

https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic … ost-133386

It seems to work just fine with s6, as far as I can see; otherwise, it's standard AntiX except that they seem to have gotten rid of herbstluftwm or whatever it's called (the tiling manager).

As for Pop!, I liked the tiling feature but it seems to be less versatile than what you'd get from a fully fledged tiling manager such as dwm, i3 or spectrwm (or even herbstluftwm if I could understand it).

Edit: more acquaintance with Pop! proved disappointing. I couldn't find any way of launching more than one instance of the terminal when I was in tiling mode.

It's good that it eschews the use of snap, appimage or flatpak but if you want a Ubuntu-based distro with tiling, I think you'd be better off installing something like Mint and then one of the tiling managers I've mentioned (and then maybe a status bar such as polybar too.

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unklar · 2024-02-17 12:46:36

the advantage clearly lies with foot (left) and xfce4-terminal

Colonel Panic · 2024-02-17 20:00:39

Yes, that looks good.

Colonel Panic · 2024-02-26 13:05:12

Just finished updating Fedora 39 (Cinnamon) and then running the Ultramarine script, to install Ultramarine on top of Fedora. The whole process went without a hitch but I have to wait for Ultramarine until the kernel is udated again (which isn't a major problem for me because Fedora Cinnamon is a devcent distro in its own right).

shortarcflyer · 2024-02-26 19:33:26

I have pretty much switched over completely to Arch based distros on my main laptop for regular/normal/everyday use. Of the six distros I have multibooted, 4 are Arch based (EndeavourOS, ArcoLinux, Mabox, and Archbang), the other two are Void and PCLinuxOS. Debian based distros are pretty much a thing of the past for me.

Mx. Alba · 2024-02-27 09:15:09

Back in the 1990s I started with Debian with classic X-windows and later Gnome. I've also used SuSE and Ubuntu through the years but hadn't used Linux for a few years apart from Raspbian on my Raspberry Pi. When I came back into the Linux desktop game, I first went for Debian 12 Xfce, then tried Tuxedo OS (but realised that just like in the 1990s, I didn't like KDE) and seem to have settled on Bunsenlabs Boron for now.

Colonel Panic · 2024-02-27 09:33:11

I've just followed this set of instructions for upgrading Gecko from its base (on my system) of OpenSUSE Leap 15.4 to 15.5;

https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade

It was all slightly tedious to do but it worked smoothly and without a hitch.

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Colonel Panic · 2024-02-29 09:22:25

Coming back to Arch; we had a discussion on the Gecko forums about which was the best main distro to use if you want / need to move away from OpenSUSE, and Gecko's developer said he wouldn't use Arch because of its erratic upgrade model which can break the system (and I agree, having had a similar experience with ArchBang about twelve years ago). He now develops Spiral, which is based on Debian Stable.

https://github.com/geckolinux/geckolinu … ssions/526

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shortarcflyer · 2024-02-29 20:38:11

Well, I will stick with my Arch based distros and forego the debian based ones for several reasons.

1-Arch distros are not as "unstable", or claimed to be as "unstable", as they were in the past (like 12 years ago or more).
2-Arch distros are not as "overloaded" with apts, files, scripts, dependencies as debian distros are.
3-Arch distros are not as resource hungry as debian distros are on my pcs.
4-Arch distros work better for me than debian distros do.
5-What works for you may not work for me and vice versa.

And finally, I have used spiral and I was not impressed with it.

hhh · 2024-03-01 02:49:09

shortarcflyer wrote:

3-Arch distros are not as resource hungry as debian distros are on my pcs.
4-Arch distros work better for me than debian distros do.

Yeah, no offense to Arch users, but those points are completely subjective. What do you mean by either of those statements?

Also... Arch is unstable...

Arch Wiki wrote:

Is Arch Linux a stable distribution? Will I get frequent breakage?
It is the user who is ultimately responsible for the stability of their own rolling release system. The user decides when to upgrade, and merges necessary changes when required. If the user reaches out to the community, help is often provided in a timely manner. The difference between Arch and other distributions in this regard is that Arch is truly a 'do-it-yourself' distribution; complaints of breakage are misguided and unproductive, since upstream changes are not the responsibility of Arch devs.
See the System maintenance article for tips on how to make an Arch Linux system as stable as possible.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Freque … _questions

upstream changes are not the responsibility of Arch devs.

hhh · 2024-03-01 02:54:46

Kind of tempted to download this Live KDE, Gentoo based distro...

https://redcorelinux.org/

Colonel Panic · 2024-03-01 09:04:21

shortarcflyer wrote:

Well, I will stick with my Arch based distros and forego the debian based ones for several reasons.
1-Arch distros are not as "unstable", or claimed to be as "unstable", as they were in the past (like 12 years ago or more).
2-Arch distros are not as "overloaded" with apts, files, scripts, dependencies as debian distros are.
3-Arch distros are not as resource hungry as debian distros are on my pcs.
4-Arch distros work better for me than debian distros do.
5-What works for you may not work for me and vice versa.
And finally, I have used spiral and I was not impressed with it.

Sure (and thanks for replying). Everything I say on here (and particularly in this thread) carries the subtext "your mileage may vary", and certainly Arch is very popular here, to the point where Arch Labs has its own subforum.

For me though, Debian stable and Debian-based distros like Bunsen will always have a place on my hard drive because administering them is so easy and trouble-free. I know that if I update the distro or install a new package, nothing will break as for example the sound did when I last updated Fedora 39, and for me that level of reliability matters; it's also why I use OpenSUSE Leap, another very stable and reliable distro.

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shortarcflyer · 2024-03-01 15:23:59

Colonel Panic wrote:

shortarcflyer wrote:
Well, I will stick with my Arch based distros and forego the debian based ones for several reasons.
1-Arch distros are not as "unstable", or claimed to be as "unstable", as they were in the past (like 12 years ago or more).
2-Arch distros are not as "overloaded" with apts, files, scripts, dependencies as debian distros are.
3-Arch distros are not as resource hungry as debian distros are on my pcs.
4-Arch distros work better for me than debian distros do.
5-What works for you may not work for me and vice versa.
And finally, I have used spiral and I was not impressed with it.
Sure (and thanks for replying). Everything I say on here (and particularly in this thread) carries the subtext "your mileage may vary", and certainly Arch is very popular here, to the point where Arch Labs has its own subforum.
For me though, Debian stable and Debian-based distros like Bunsen will always have a place on my hard drive because administering them is so easy and trouble-free. I know that if I update the distro or install a new package, nothing will break as for example the sound did when I last updated Fedora 39, and for me that level of reliability matters; it's also why I use OpenSUSE Leap, another very stable and reliable distro.

Sure, I should have added the "YMMV" to my post. I understand what works for me does not work for others and vice versa. I am just more satisfied with my Arch based distro installs than I have ever been with my past Debian based distro installs. There may come a time in the future when that is not the case.

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hhh · 2024-03-02 02:09:44

^The case for me was when I came back to a sid install after having been away for six or seven months. I should have done more due diligence before upgrading, because a bunch of major system changes had come in. The upgrade borked the whole system. I know more now, and could have probably resurrected it, but at the time it was out of my league. Now that a lot of programs have AppImages available for their current release version, I'd rather have a stable OS as a base than monkey with a rolling release. YMMV!

unklar · 2024-03-02 18:41:55

Since Conky under sway/labwc will certainly not become friends in the future, I have been working on the swaybar in the last few days because I wanted to have the weather in it

swaybar is the original bar that is installed with sway.

siduction-nox with wayland/sway, in the middle 'fuzzel' (it's always a good idea to look for packages in the debian repo's first)

hhh · 2024-03-02 23:35:25

unklar wrote:

Since Conky under sway/labwc will certainly not become friends in the future...

Wait, is that a Wayland thing? Because conky is working fine for me on GNOME/Wayland. I'm just using a basic one, though, no fancy lua stuff.

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