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nobody0 · 2015-12-26 08:56:04

^ The community (user) editions are encouraged and placed in the opening page of the distro, rather than seeing as competitors.
Even Ubuntu forums seems to encourage that, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2287591 That's how I found Bento, a woman made Openbox distro. http://phillw.net/isos/bento-ubuntu-remix/

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deleted0 · 2015-12-26 11:43:50

ostrolek wrote:

Maybe such community created distros should be invited here too.

+1

8bit

Head_on_a_Stick · 2015-12-26 11:45:33

ostrolek wrote:

Maybe such community created distros should be invited here too.

Community contributions are always welcome here

EDIT: That's how we got here

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nobody0 · 2015-12-26 15:13:00

^ That's why I said "here." I didn't mean the last forum, the Crunchbang forum. It wasn't that friendly with users, who created distros after Crunchbang died. On the way of getting here, some of those who created such distros were kicked out of the old forum. The old distro is dead and the old forum is closed, and a closed forum is dead.

This is a new distro and a new forum.

deleted0 · 2015-12-26 15:37:21

ostrolek wrote:

the Crunchbang forum. It wasn't that friendly with users, who created distros after Crunchbang died.

So true.

8bit

Snap · 2015-12-26 19:42:28

My POW about community distros based in BL is that BL gravitates around OpenBox. Of you change the window manager it will a quite different thing. Of course you can change many other things but they should be interesting enough to tempt potential users. Manjaro is totally different. It's a distro on it's own not even using the Arch repos, so any variation; WMs, DEs, init systems, making it ultra light weight, etc... still is Manjaro. BL is more limited. If you remove certain parts it won't be BL anymore, just another Debian based respin.

nobody0 · 2015-12-27 00:05:30

^ You could be right here about BL that, if you change certain configs it wouldn't be BL any more. In Crunchbang it was the same with configs on the menu, tint2, conky and the background. So, if you change those parts, it won't be BL but something else.

I was studying Manjaro for last 6-7 hours. Now I understand how Manjaro is constructed, and how so many distros with so many WMs, DEs etc can be created practically overnight. Manjaro devs had separated Manjaro in to integral parts and practically by creating one part, you have your new distro, say from KDE to XFCE, or from Cinnamon to Deepin. Not changing, but creating that part fully. The other parts stay intact for the given architecture. Manjaro uses packages from Arch and AUR, but keep them in their repos, directing Manjaro update there, so the rolling effect is somewhat subdued. It was a pretty good study time.

nobody0 · 2015-12-27 17:30:35

^ The Manjaro user guide says,

Manjaro is based on another distribution called Arch Linux. As such, it is also able to draw software packages from the community-maintained Arch User Repository (AUR). However, please note that Manjaro is not Arch,...

but it is more or less the same as BL with a slight difference. BL is based on Debian and all packages are from Debian except BL-specialized apps from the BL repo, while Manjaro is based on Arch + some Manjaro created configs and apps + some WM/DE, but with all packages in Manjaro repos. Except for the Manjaro created packages, all other packages are copied from Arch repos. That way, you get the feeling that it is semi-rolling--some Arch apps are kept from being upgraded...for a time. This is more or less the way SloydXK works.

Anyway, this was good time spent studying Manjaro. Question I put to myself was, why Arch doesn't have a live installable iso with WMs/DEs, while Manjaro has. Arch gives you the fishing rod and the pond, while Manjaro gives your the fried fish on a plate. Both Arch and Manjaro work with Pacman and the packages have the extension .pkg.tar.xz and all directories are the same and are in the same places. There must be something added to an Arch install and that something is not easily seen.

I downloaded few Manjaros (15.12) and looked inside them. I saw what is easily unseen. So, using some freely available free apps, you can create an Arch live installable iso with a WM/DE. Now the question is, at least for me, what would Arch guys say, if they suddenly find such a distro(s) around, taking away their geeky "go use Ubuntu" attitude?

By the way, you can make a Manjaro distro become an Arch distro.

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C#Coder4ever · 2015-12-27 18:24:41

Manjaro is horrible, just stick to Arch. Or if you absolutely need a WM/DE out of the box, look into Antergos.

Döbbie03 · 2015-12-27 18:29:26

C#Coder4ever wrote:

Manjaro is horrible, just stick to Arch. Or if you absolutely need a WM/DE out of the box, look into Antergos.

Totally agree, I had far more issues with Manjaro "stable" than I have ever had with Arch and the testing repos enabled.

nobody0 · 2015-12-27 20:02:02

^

ostrolek wrote:

By the way, you can make a Manjaro distro become an Arch distro.

Döbbie03 · 2015-12-27 20:04:35

ostrolek wrote:

^
ostrolek wrote:
By the way, you can make a Manjaro distro become an Arch distro.

Why not just install the real thing or use Architect?

C#Coder4ever · 2015-12-27 20:06:19

ostrolek wrote:

^
ostrolek wrote:
By the way, you can make a Manjaro distro become an Arch distro.

How? purge the Manjaro repos and replace them with Arch repos? Why not just use something that comes with Arch repos BY DEFAULT ?

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nobody0 · 2015-12-27 20:08:21

^ Did you understand what I wrote in #208 & #209?

C#Coder4ever · 2015-12-27 20:11:04

ostrolek wrote:

^ Did you understand what I wrote in #208 & #209?

All I can say is, good luck getting those at the Arch forum to believe you.

nobody0 · 2015-12-27 20:22:56

^ Why do I need the Arch forum?
The knowledge you need to install Arch is in the Arch Wiki.

C#Coder4ever · 2015-12-27 20:27:05

I don't know, why don't you use the Manjaro wiki instead?

pingu · 2015-12-27 20:28:49

^^and the users that wrote the wiki are in the forums

nobody0 · 2015-12-27 21:05:30

^
On the left the old installation setup and on the right the new installation setup for Arch. Arch does not have an installation setup any more. Think what you like.

This is about other distros, that is, distro-hopping.

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C#Coder4ever · 2015-12-27 21:14:00

Where did I say Arch had a native installer?

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