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You can learn a lot installing and running Gentoo.
You been to their forum yet? It's worth looking up their upgrade strategies. Like setting up a cron job to run during off peak hours. Otherwise you get to sit and drink coffee (or Guinness) while you watch everything compile.
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I have learnt a lot over the last few weeks with Nix and now Gentoo.
I am yet to visit the forums. It is on the list to do.
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Good for you! If you want to try Gentoo and want to avoid most of the configuration steps, Exton did a pretty good spin on Gentoo about a year ago called ExGent, where he did all the hard work for you in advance.
As is typical with his releases though, it contained the bare minimum of software so you had to install your own office suite etc. You also need to know how to upgrade a year old Gentoo installation (it's not easy).
https://www.exton.se/tag/exgent/
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So far it's going well. I haven't been bothered too much by watching walls of text roll by as everything builds.
I'll take a look at ExGent. Cheers.
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@Sector11, from man distro-info...
DESCRIPTION distro-info is a symlink to the distro-info command for your distribution. On Debian it links to debian-distro-info and on Ubuntu it links to ubuntu-distro-info. All options described in this manual page are available in all distro-info commands. All other options, which are not described here, are distribution specific.
I have no "distro-info"
11 Jan 24 @ 18:23:15 ~
$ man distro-info
No manual entry for distro-info
11 Jan 24 @ 18:26:11 ~
$ ser distro-info
alias ser = aptitude search
p distro-info - provides information about the distributions' releases
i A distro-info-data - information about the distributions' releases (data files)
p libdistro-info-perl - information about distributions' releases (Perl module)
p python3-distro-info - information about distributions' releases (Python 3 module)
11 Jan 24 @ 18:26:17 ~
$ sho distro-info
alias = aptitude show filename
Package: distro-info
Version: 1.5+deb12u1
State: not installed
Priority: optional
Section: devel
Maintainer: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>
Architecture: amd64
Uncompressed Size: 67.6 k
Depends: distro-info-data (>= 0.46), libc6 (>= 2.34)
Suggests: shunit2
Description: provides information about the distributions' releases
Information about all releases of Debian and Ubuntu. The distro-info script will give you the codename for e.g. the latest stable release
of your distribution. To get information about a specific distribution there are the debian-distro-info and the ubuntu-distro-info
scripts.
Tags: devel::debian, implemented-in::c, interface::commandline, role::program, scope::utility
11 Jan 24 @ 18:26:30 ~
$ TY hhh
Debian 12 Beardog, SoxDog and still a Conky 1.9er
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Alpine Linux -
Installed no problem, and now about 90% done with configuration and themeing.
Nice, robust distro, but unless you have a use-case scenario to build a musl -based system from the ground up; or you just enjoy doing that sort of thing, it's not really worth the time.
Probably go a lot faster if I was more proficient with their package manager. So read up on using apk before doing an install.
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Alpine Linux -
Installed no problem, and now about 90% done with configuration and themeing.
Nice, robust distro, but unless you have a use-case scenario to build a musl -based system from the ground up; or you just enjoy doing that sort of thing, it's not really worth the time.
Probably go a lot faster if I was more proficient with their package manager. So read up on using apk before doing an install.
Looking forward to the screenshot ![]()
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PackRat wrote:Alpine Linux -
Installed no problem, and now about 90% done with configuration and themeing.
Nice, robust distro, but unless you have a use-case scenario to build a musl -based system from the ground up; or you just enjoy doing that sort of thing, it's not really worth the time.
Probably go a lot faster if I was more proficient with their package manager. So read up on using apk before doing an install.
Looking forward to the screenshot
I just have to find the package that allows for gtk theme changing. No obconf so that's all manual ![]()
Edit - obconf-qt is available; so obconf comes with some qt bloat, but I don't have to edit manually.
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Manual theme application aside, that looks great. Light on resources?
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Manual theme application aside, that looks great. Light on resources?
It's pretty good.
xorg, openbox, tint2, xterm (2), dbus, polkit, udev services. Log in with startx.
Legacy BIOS system. HP laptop from 2011.
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Not bad at all. Adding it to the list to test.
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hhh wrote:@Sector11, from man distro-info...
DESCRIPTION distro-info is a symlink to the distro-info command for your distribution. On Debian it links to debian-distro-info and on Ubuntu it links to ubuntu-distro-info. All options described in this manual page are available in all distro-info commands. All other options, which are not described here, are distribution specific.I have no "distro-info"
11 Jan 24 @ 18:23:15 ~ $ man distro-info No manual entry for distro-info 11 Jan 24 @ 18:26:11 ~ $ ser distro-info alias ser = aptitude search p distro-info - provides information about the distributions' releases i A distro-info-data - information about the distributions' releases (data files) p libdistro-info-perl - information about distributions' releases (Perl module) p python3-distro-info - information about distributions' releases (Python 3 module) 11 Jan 24 @ 18:26:17 ~ $ sho distro-info alias = aptitude show filename Package: distro-info Version: 1.5+deb12u1 State: not installed Priority: optional Section: devel Maintainer: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org> Architecture: amd64 Uncompressed Size: 67.6 k Depends: distro-info-data (>= 0.46), libc6 (>= 2.34) Suggests: shunit2 Description: provides information about the distributions' releases Information about all releases of Debian and Ubuntu. The distro-info script will give you the codename for e.g. the latest stable release of your distribution. To get information about a specific distribution there are the debian-distro-info and the ubuntu-distro-info scripts. Tags: devel::debian, implemented-in::c, interface::commandline, role::program, scope::utility 11 Jan 24 @ 18:26:30 ~ $TY hhh
No problem. I think I'll remove the package as well, but it just looks so ominous for a stupid package...
rachel@tyrell-corp:~$ apt policy distro-info
distro-info:
Installed: 1.5ubuntu0.23.10.1
Candidate: 1.5ubuntu0.23.10.1
Version table:
*** 1.5ubuntu0.23.10.1 500
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic-updates/main amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
1.5 500
500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic/main amd64 Packages
rachel@tyrell-corp:~$ sudo nala purge distro-info
[sudo] password for rachel:
============================================================================================
Auto-Purging
============================================================================================
Package: Version: Size:
arch-test 0.21-1 249 KB
debian-archive-keyring 2023.4ubuntu1 275 KB
debsums 3.0.2.1 100 KB
genisoimage 9:1.1.11-3.4 1.8 MB
libfile-fnmatch-perl 0.02-3build1 42 KB
piuparts-common 1.1.7 117 KB
python3-debianbts 4.0.1 54 KB
python3-dns 3.2.1-2 114 KB
python3-pycurl 7.45.2-4 206 KB
python3-pysimplesoap 1.16.2-5 196 KB
python3-reportbug 11.6.0ubuntu2 361 KB
python3-ubuntutools 0.196 319 KB
reportbug 11.6.0ubuntu2 195 KB
============================================================================================
Purging
============================================================================================
Package: Version: Size:
debootstrap 1.0.132ubuntu1 285 KB
distro-info 1.5ubuntu0.23.10.1 68 KB
piuparts 1.1.7 720 KB
ubuntu-dev-tools 0.196 381 KB
============================================================================================
Summary
============================================================================================
Auto-Purge 13 Packages
Purge 4 Packages
Disk space to free 5.5 MB
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Screw it, buh-bye. I can always reinstall it if debian-archive-keyring somehow is a problem on an Ubuntu system. Thank you, apt.
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OMG, MY LAPTOP IS MELTING!!!! HEEEEEEELLLLLLPPPPP! GLURP GLurp glurp...
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Manual theme application aside, that looks great. Light on resources?
lxappearance is available with Alpine edge (their rolling release). I'll just edit the repositories and go with a rolling release Alpine.
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Dobbie03 wrote:Manual theme application aside, that looks great. Light on resources?
lxappearance is available with Alpine edge (their rolling release). I'll just edit the repositories and go with a rolling release Alpine.
This isn't replacing your Void is it?
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This isn't replacing your Void is it?
No way. I'll install musl-based Void if I want to go all in on that.
This old HP is just to test other distros. I haven't tried Alpine in quite a while so I installed it. Looks like uEFI requires a lot of manual intervention to get it installed. So won't be attempting a Alpine uEFI any time soon.
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Glad you mentioned uefi, I think I'll pass on Alpine if that is the case.
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Glad you mentioned uefi, I think I'll pass on Alpine if that is the case.
That's one of the reasons I am checking it out. See how far they've come on uEFI, packages, etc ....
Alpine is a robust, stable distro, but a few years behind the curve.
Next challenge may be to compile dwm in musl.
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Good luck with the dwm compile ![]()
I came across somewhere someone had made a custom spin of Alpine, I can't find it but will share if I come across it.
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^ I'm seeing a few Google hits, maybe this one?
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