December 2023 Screenshots

PackRat · 2023-12-10 17:30:52

Have labwc looking and working the way I want it.

Nice work @malm

Last edited by PackRat (2023-12-11 00:27:57)

hhh · 2023-12-12 04:59:33

I had too much cruft going on with my main Ubuntu setup, so I did a fresh install using the current, 23.10 Xubuntu Minimal ISO (available here). This ISO eliminates a lot of Ubuntu's BS. I installed it, uninstalled Xfce, uninstalled and disabled snapd, uninstalled the software updates/gnome-online-accounts stuff, installed selected gnome packages and gdm3, built the rounded corners extension from source (only way to make it compatible with gnome-shell 45, which broke everything... again.) Basically took way too much time to come up with what I am confident is one of the best, leanest GNOME 45 desktops on the planet.

I don't know if anyone here is using current GNOME, but one really cool detail is that the switching-windows window-doohickey plays the damn movie in the thumbnail... even if the video player is minimized, it will show the movie in the thumbnail when you switch windows via the keyboard. Stoopid fun!

Nili · 2023-12-14 07:56:25

Edit: Change the scrot, because it looked very messy for a simpler one.

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Nili · 2023-12-14 08:26:29

hhh wrote:

I had too much cruft going on with my main Ubuntu setup, so I did a fresh install using the current, 23.10 Xubuntu Minimal ISO (available here). This ISO eliminates a lot of Ubuntu's BS. I installed it, uninstalled Xfce, uninstalled and disabled snapd, uninstalled the software updates/gnome-online-accounts stuff, installed selected gnome packages and gdm3, built the rounded corners extension from source (only way to make it compatible with gnome-shell 45, which broke everything... again.) Basically took way too much time to come up with what I am confident is one of the best, leanest GNOME 45 desktops on the planet.

Why don't you go to debian netinst (expert install) route instead of Xubuntu based on Ubuntu based on Debian? I believe it is the cleanest path in Debian minimal way. There is a mini iso 60+MB where you can build your system completely from scratch. I once installed my system from that mini-iso, proceeded with a minimal Xfce with Devuan. It was quite good and easy installation of minimalistic OS/Xfce.

Never done with GNOME, I don't know what to say about it. Maybe GNOME is your section and you know what you're doing. I only would recommend doing on a pure Debian your GNOME installation/customs.

el_koraco · 2023-12-14 13:06:29

perasugu wrote:

hhh wrote:
I had too much cruft going on with my main Ubuntu setup, so I did a fresh install using the current, 23.10 Xubuntu Minimal ISO (available here). This ISO eliminates a lot of Ubuntu's BS. I installed it, uninstalled Xfce, uninstalled and disabled snapd, uninstalled the software updates/gnome-online-accounts stuff, installed selected gnome packages and gdm3, built the rounded corners extension from source (only way to make it compatible with gnome-shell 45, which broke everything... again.) Basically took way too much time to come up with what I am confident is one of the best, leanest GNOME 45 desktops on the planet.
Why don't you go to debian netinst (expert install) route instead of Xubuntu based on Ubuntu based on Debian? I believe it is the cleanest path in Debian minimal way. There is a mini iso 60+MB where you can build your system completely from scratch. I once installed my system from that mini-iso, proceeded with a minimal Xfce with Devuan. It was quite good and easy installation of minimalistic OS/Xfce.
Never done with GNOME, I don't know what to say about it. Maybe GNOME is your section and you know what you're doing. I only would recommend doing on a pure Debian your GNOME installation/customs.

hhh likes to sweat over his installs.

hhh · 2023-12-14 18:25:01

^ Indeed. This one was a major pain the ass. Flipping, frigging, fracking GNOME.

To answer the Ubuntu vs. Debian question, it's to get a more stable version, arguably, of sid than sid is. Strip out snap and ubuntu-advantage and it's good to go.

I'll remind you, Philip abandoned #!, in part, because he had switched to using Ubuntu. That, and the users were "bat-guano crazy".

hhh · 2023-12-14 18:29:24

perasugu wrote:

There is a mini iso 60+MB where you can build your system completely from scratch.

My dude, this laptop has no Ethernet port and I do NOT want to configure WiFi from scratch when the command for removing Xfce is...

sudo apt purge --autoremove xfce* xfwm4* xfdesktop4*

Talk about sweating an install, build it from scratch. I'll spend three days just figuring out how to enable the WiFi driver (I kid, but you know what I mean. It's always something).

hhh · 2023-12-14 18:47:47

@perasugu, I forgot. Even if I were to install sid on this laptop, I'd install Xfce first so I had a usable desktop to work with...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=8715

Xfce is the bomb, it installs everything and autoremoves nothing.

johnraff · 2023-12-15 03:00:13

hhh wrote:

Philip abandoned #!, in part, because he had switched to using Ubuntu. That, and the users were "bat-guano crazy".

I thought he switched to Windows at that point? CrunchBang was based on Ubuntu at the start, then switched to Debian.

(The bat guano might have been a factor though, along with various others...)

Nili · 2023-12-15 06:45:02

johnraff wrote:

I thought he switched to Windows at that point? CrunchBang was based on Ubuntu at the start, then switched to Debian.
(The bat guano might have been a factor though, along with various others...)

That's how i remember reading it from his personal portal at that time. I was even surprised by his turn in Windows.

I personally found #! Waldorf with Debian around 2012 or so after been converted from Ubuntu/Mint to #!.

hhh wrote:

My dude, this laptop has no Ethernet port and I do NOT want to configure WiFi from scratch when the command for removing Xfce is...
sudo apt purge --autoremove xfce* xfwm4* xfdesktop4*
Talk about sweating an install, build it from scratch. I'll spend three days just figuring out how to enable the WiFi driver (I kid, but you know what I mean. It's always something).

Actually, while i was writing about mini-iso i didn't think about the laptop part, I should have thought that not many user are desktop users, I understand that Wi-Fi drivers are still awkward and especially to build it from scratch. The opposite is with Ethernet wired cable where this part passes quite freely.

hhh wrote:

@perasugu, I forgot. Even if I were to install sid on this laptop, I'd install Xfce first so I had a usable desktop to work with...
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=8715
Xfce is the bomb, it installs everything and autoremoves nothing.

That's an awesome tutorial you wrote on that link with bunch of infos.

unklar · 2023-12-15 09:19:39

that openbox from the neighbor with siduction-kernel

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unklar · 2023-12-15 10:26:33

hhh wrote:

I'll spend three days just figuring out how to enable the WiFi driver (I kid, but you know what I mean. It's always something).

Maybe use IWD.
With or without NetworkManager, with or without wpa-supplicant.

three dashes top right-->Network-->IWD
https://manual.siduction.org/index_en.html

hhh · 2023-12-16 00:49:26

^ I'll be sticking with this Ubuntu setup for now. I want some music stuff that is more current in Ubuntu Mantic than it is in bookworm, but I don't want the volatility of sid and the bookworm packages are quite a bit behind. The major one for me is Ardour 8.1, which installed from Noble with no issues. It's 7.3 in bookworm...

rachel@tyrell-corp:~$ apt policy ardour
ardour:
  Installed: 1:8.1.0+ds-1
  Candidate: 1:8.1.0+ds-1
  Version table:
 *** 1:8.1.0+ds-1 100
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     1:7.5.0+ds-2 500
        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu mantic/universe amd64 Packages

johnraff · 2023-12-16 03:04:21

^Ardour 8.1 is in Trixie. You could try a home backport?
Quite a lot of dependencies though...

Döbbie03 · 2023-12-17 05:00:00

PackRat · 2023-12-17 10:40:51

Dobbie03 wrote:

https://i.ibb.co/G9SW6Yy/Screenshot-2023-12-17-17-58-00.png

dwm?
What patch is that layoutaxis[] function?

Same window manager; different distro:

Last edited by PackRat (2023-12-17 19:55:19)

Döbbie03 · 2023-12-18 04:09:36

@PackRat, dwm as always.

The patch is this one:
https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/flextile/

PackRat · 2023-12-18 15:48:56

Dobbie03 wrote:

@PackRat, dwm as always.
The patch is this one:
https://dwm.suckless.org/patches/flextile/

Thanks

i3 with polybar and jgmenu -

hhh · 2023-12-18 23:02:13

@PackRat, I was able to find that wallpaper without the website branding, if you're interested...

https://wallpapershome.com/download-wal … 25341.html

PackRat · 2023-12-18 23:36:28

Thanks.
And bookmarked that wallpaper site.

Fluxbox, tint2, jgmenu, xterm -

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