Possible tint2 issue going forward

dmontaine · 2023-06-14 23:25:24

https://gitlab.com/o9000/tint2 wrote:
The final release of tint2 is 17.0.2.
The code is frozen and no more feature requests are accepted.

Have run into instability issues with tint2 on another openbox based distro so no more fixes may be a problem.

And from another forum

Lewis Smith 2023-05-05 20:35:40 CEST
Well discovered.

I think you are right. Glib2 was updated (with a lot of other stuff) on my system on 3 May. Tint2 is not the only application which may suffer.

That Arch reference is lengthy (avoid patches mentioned), and the conclusion:
"You need a patched version of tint2 to stop the tint2 from crashing"
is preceded by:
"glib2 won't fix, so unless they revert to the previous the g_slice behavior out of, i don't know, a minimal sense of responsibility to not go around and break stuff because tehy feel like and wrt"
which derides glib2 for a change that is not likely to be undone; and
"I don't want to keep ignoring glib2 or stand in the way of progress"
which is a resignation to live with the consequences - even if that means abandoning Tint2 panel/taskbar.

The solution of downgrading glib2 is short-term only.

It seems you are the tint2 packager, so giving you this bug. I suspect you can do nothing unless & until tint2 is updated to cope with the changed glib2. You can close it 'wontfix'; earmarked for Errata9.

CC'ing tmb & neoclust for info re glib2.0

Last edited by dmontaine (2023-06-14 23:34:13)

hhh · 2023-06-14 23:58:16

I love xfce4-panel in "deskbar" mode (vertical panel with horizontal text). Another good one is eww widgets, @PackRat just posted a nice setup and scrot of it...

https://i.postimg.cc/wTJXLT87/Screensho … -47-59.png

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 82#p127982

That said, I'm seeing no issues using the debian bookworm package (17.0.1), so we should be OK at least through Trixie. Plenty of time.

https://packages.debian.org/trixie/tint2

Ooo, slideshow from that debian link! Click play!

https://screenshots.debian.net/package/tint2#gallery-1

dmontaine · 2023-06-15 00:09:14

There was an attempt to fork tint2 here: https://gitlab.com/nick87720z/tint2/

Does not seem to be active after 17.1.3 a year ago.

johnraff · 2023-06-15 05:21:53

So while tint2 is likely to stay in Trixie, the question might be when the incompatible version of glib2 arrives in Debian?

@dmontaine could you post a link to the "other forum" where the glib2 issue is discussed?
"Tint2 is not the only application which may suffer."

DeepDayze · 2023-06-15 16:50:14

So looks like tint2 is on the way out and xfce4-panel & fbpanel are other options but tint2 is the most configurable of them all. Perhaps can try these out for potential replacements for tint2 should it break because of the new incompatible glib2 update that's coming?

Last edited by DeepDayze (2023-06-15 16:50:40)

dmontaine · 2023-06-15 22:11:54

Other forum discussing tint2 issue:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=284293

Other site:

https://patchespromptly.com/glib2/

DeepDayze · 2023-06-16 01:43:54

Glib2 may affect more than tint2, and Openbox may be affected as well. Gonna be a real mess.

Also wonder if Debian devs are aware of this major issue.

Last edited by DeepDayze (2023-06-16 01:46:38)

dmontaine · 2023-06-16 05:02:00

This is a list of packages that depend on glib2. This is from an arch forum, so the package names will be different than Debian. But it gives an idea of the possible impact. (Although only a subset may depend on the specific function causing the problem in tint2. And, since there seems to be no one maintaining tint2 at this point, perhaps the other package maintainers will adjust to the change).

accountsservice amsynth amtk anydesk-bin ardour ardour-git at-spi2-core audacious audacity avahi
avldrums.lv2 ayatana-indicator-session babeltrace babeltrace2 bluez bluez-git bluez-utils
bluez-utils-compat brltty bumblebee bustle cairo callaudiod capnet-assist castget cerbere
chromium-widevine cinnamon-menus clapper conky conmon connman connman-git connman-gtk consolekit
contractor contractor-git contrast ctpl curlftpfs datagrip datagrip-jre dataspell dataspell-jre dbus-c++
dbus-glib dbus-python dconf ddcutil ddcutil-git dee deepin-api desktop-file-utils desmume-git dino
dino-git displaycal dsniff dunst duperemove dwarffortress easytag emacs emacs-nativecomp emby-theater
enchant etherape fastgame-git fcitx5-gtk firewalld flat-remix-gnome flatpak fluidsynth fprintd
fprintd-libfprint2 fs-uae fuseiso gala gambas3-gb-net-smtp gamehub gammastep gammu ganv gcab gcin gcr-4
gdk-pixbuf2 gdm-settings-git gdm-tools-git geary geocode-glib-common gigedit girara gitg glib-networking
glib-perl glibd glibmm glibmm-2.68 glyr gmime gmime3 gnome-autoar gnome-color-manager gnome-firmware
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libdnf libdsme libfm-extra libgbinder libgdiplus libgdm libgdm-plymouth libgdm-plymouth-prime libgdm-prime
libgee libgepub libgexiv2 libgit2-glib libglib-testing libglibutil libgnome-keyring libgnt libgrss
libgsystem libgtop libgudev libgusb libhandy libhandy0 libibus libical libidl2 libinfinity libinstpatch
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libmm-glib libmodulemd libmpd libmypaint libnautilus-extension libnice libnids libnm libnm-iwd libnotify
libomemo libosinfo libots libpackagekit-glib libpamac-aur libpinyin libportal libproxy libqrtr-glib
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libslirp libsmf libsoup libsoup3 libspectrum libspeechd libwacom libwebsockets libwireplumber
libxfce4util libxklavier libxmlb libxmlbird light-locker lightdm lightdm-pantheon-greeter lilypond
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megatools minecraft-launcher mintlocale mintstick mixxx mmsd-git modemmanager mpv-mpris mtpfs mtr-gtk
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pantheon-settings-daemon pantheon-shortcut-overlay pantheon-sideload pantheon-terminal pantheon-videos
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qemu-audio-dbus qemu-common qemu-git qemu-guest-agent qemu-guest-agent-git qemu-headless-arch-extra-git
qemu-headless-git qemu-hw-usb-smartcard qemu-img qemu-pr-helper qemu-system-aarch64 qemu-system-alpha
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visual-studio-code-bin visual-studio-code-insiders-bin

johnraff · 2023-06-16 05:25:23

libglib2-0-0 is up to 2.76.3-1 in Debian experimental: https://packages.debian.org/experimental/libglib2.0-0
so the issue will bite eventually, but there aren't yet any bug reports relating to it. I couldn't find any recent references to libglib2 in the Debian mailing lists either, so it may not have yet hit their radar.

@dmontaine thanks for the extra info. glib2 is pretty central so we can expect some complaints here and there. Might Debian patch libglib2??

Anyway we need to keep our eyes on this: if libglib2.0-0 2.76.3 makes its way down to Trixie then we'll have to deal with it for BL Carbon.

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DeepDayze · 2023-06-16 14:12:06

johnraff wrote:

libglib2-0-0 is up to 2.76.3-1 in Debian experimental: https://packages.debian.org/experimental/libglib2.0-0
so the issue will bite eventually, but there aren't yet any bug reports relating to it. I couldn't find any recent references to libglib2 in the Debian mailing lists either, so it may not have yet hit their radar.
@dmontaine thanks for the extra info. glib2 is pretty central so we can expect some complaints here and there. Might Debian patch libglib2??
Anyway we need to keep our eyes on this: if libglib2-0-0 2.76.3 makes its way down to Trixie then we'll have to deal with it for BL Carbon.

So Debian now has it (at least in experimental and MIGHT hit sid at some point) and I am sure there will be bug reports coming once more people start pounding on that and recommending patches and such. Due to the potential major impact to various applications this ought to be on the radar of Debian devs and maintainers.

Last edited by DeepDayze (2023-06-16 14:12:45)

dmontaine · 2023-06-16 14:26:24

The issue is probably only going to hit unmaintained packages, of which tint2 is one. From what I have read, packages can adjust to the changes, however, someone actually has to be maintaining the package for that to happen. For example, it has already hit the Mabox distro on some computers. (I was trying their distro on a very new computer and experienced the tint2 panel disappearing after boot. That is what caused me to find the postings on various forums).

Last edited by dmontaine (2023-06-16 14:29:09)

DeepDayze · 2023-06-16 14:50:23

dmontaine wrote:

The issue is probably only going to hit unmaintained packages, of which tint2 is one. From what I have read, packages can adjust to the changes, however, someone actually has to be maintaining the package for that to happen. For example, it has already hit the Mabox distro on some computers. (I was trying their distro on a very new computer and experienced the tint2 panel disappearing after boot. That is what caused me to find the postings on various forums).

So very true as devs/maintainers will most likely be submitting bug reports upstream or providing patches/fixes/workarounds. Most likely those unmaintained packages will be removed from Trixie or the next release after that, should the new glib2 make it down to Trixie.

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