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#1 2023-02-05 06:32:59

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

This is a thread for things that have come up after upgrading to Debian Boron or installing from the - soon to be announced - experimental Boron packages.

Just a heads up, I've upgraded my Beryllium/Bullseye install to Beryllium/Bookworm and the only thing that broke was the icon color of xfce4-power-manager systray icon. It didn't actually break, but the icon is black against all the other tint2 icons.

-edit- current /etc/apt/sources.list...

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 11 _Beryllium_ - Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20221218-11:28]/ bullseye contrib main non-free

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 11 _Beryllium_ - Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20221218-11:28]/ bullseye contrib main non-free

deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free contrib
# deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free contrib

## Debian security updates
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free

# bookworm-updates, to get updates before a point release is made;
# see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_updates_and_backports
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free

# This system was installed using small removable media
# (e.g. netinst, live or single CD). The matching "deb cdrom"
# entries were disabled at the end of the installation process.
# For information about how to configure apt package sources,
# see the sources.list(5) manual.

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#2 2023-02-05 09:13:29

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

hhh wrote:

Just a heads up, I've upgraded my Beryllium/Bullseye install to Beryllium/Bookworm and the only thing that broke was the icon color of xfce4-power-manager systray icon. It didn't actually break, but the icon is black against all the other tint2 icons.

I noticed that too - it looks as if XFCE haven't fixed, or decided not to fix, the icon issue that we had to release a patched xfce4-power-manager for in Beryllium.

Suppose I'll have to do it again - not a welcome task though, digging through 2 year old git commits... roll

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#3 2023-02-05 09:15:40

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Bookworm/Boron issues

(I pasted this message in @hhh's post at the top, but if I delete this post the whole thread will be nuked.)

This is a thread for things that have come up after upgrading to Debian Boron or installing from the - soon to be announced - experimental Boron packages.

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#4 2023-02-05 09:45:36

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

logouts
EDIT: panic over: the freezes and logouts started after a multi-package upgrade. Rebooting fixed it.

It started when trying to use geany as root via pkexec, when several times the session crashed and I had to log in again. But just now I was logged out of a Boron session in a VM for no apparent reason, all running windows' data lost.

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#5 2023-02-05 10:46:29

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

hhh wrote:

This is a thread for things that have come up after upgrading to Debian Boron or installing from the - soon to be aannounced - experimental Boron packages.

Just a heads up, I've upgraded my Beryllium/Bullseye install to Beryllium/Bookworm and the only thing that broke was the icon color of xfce4-power-manager systray icon. It didn't actually break, but the icon is black against all the other tint2 icons.

-edit- current /etc/apt/sources.list...

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 11 _Beryllium_ - Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20221218-11:28]/ bullseye contrib main non-free

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 11 _Beryllium_ - Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20221218-11:28]/ bullseye contrib main non-free

deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free contrib
# deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm main non-free contrib

## Debian security updates
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian-security bookworm-security main contrib non-free

# bookworm-updates, to get updates before a point release is made;
# see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_updates_and_backports
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-updates main contrib non-free

# This system was installed using small removable media
# (e.g. netinst, live or single CD). The matching "deb cdrom"
# entries were disabled at the end of the installation process.
# For information about how to configure apt package sources,
# see the sources.list(5) manual.

Sorry,
if already (nonsense) wink , then topically. The sources should look then e.g. like this

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main non-free contrib non-free-firmware
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates non-free contrib main non-free-firmware
deb http://security.debian.org/ bookworm-security non-free contrib main non-free-firmware

The Debian project has taken the decision in 2022-10 to create a new repository component non-free-firmware, and include its content on installation media for the upcoming Debian release bookworm to make things easier for our users.
The information below still applies to the oldstable and stable releases (a.k.a. buster and bullseye), but might be outdated for weekly and nightly media of testing published in the coming weeks, with the situation changing rapidly while the decision is being implemented.
Please bear with us until the situation has settled and can be documented here. And if you want to help out this transition, feel free to follow the mailing list thread.

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#6 2023-02-05 17:03:17

hhh
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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

@unklar, after adding "non-free-firmware" to my sources...
fG2Bg8xl.png

Thanks for this!


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#7 2023-02-05 18:32:45

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

^ That's a nice desktop, fits what I like; no colors that scream, "Hey look at me. I'm Magenta."

I was viewing it, reading the terminal. And when it got to the [Y/N], I instinctively went for the Y key. :-)

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#8 2023-02-23 23:53:20

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

pkexec not working.

bruce@inana:~$ pkexec geany
Geany: cannot open display
bruce@inana:~$ sudo pkexec geany
[sudo] password for bruce: 
Geany: cannot open display

without sudo the popup to authenticate shows, but then it cannot open the display.

When in thunar, right clicking and open as root works. (needless to say, I would prefer not to have to do that or some version of it all the time.)

I have no ideas! Solutions anyone?

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#9 2023-02-24 06:52:34

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

Pkexec does not work the same way as gksudo used to. You can't just 'pkexec' any random command - the permissions have to be set up first. You can run 'pkexec bl-text-editor', enter your password and a geany (or whatever app is set as bl-text-editor) window will open. That's because of /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.bunsenlabs.pkexec.policy installed by bunsen-configs.

There is no equivalent BunsenLabs config for bl-file-manager because:
1) thunar sets it up for itself, so you can run 'pkexec thunar'
2) file managers are powerful and we didn't want to hand out root permissions to any file manager which hadn't set up polkit permissions itself

There didn't seem to be any need for users to run bl-media-player or bl-image-viewer as root.

This has been the situation since BunsenLabs Lithium.


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#10 2023-02-24 07:50:33

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

Fair enough. I am surprised I have not run into this in the past. Must be a long time since I tried to use this command in a terminal. (The memory feels like it was yesterday!

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#11 2023-03-23 16:20:02

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

Decided to see how it would look without the conky. Brought up the autostartfile from the menu. Commented out conky, compositor and nitrogen to see how it would look without the wallpaper.

Rebooted to no conky, no compositor, but the wallpaper were there as usual. Something that I am missing?

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#12 2023-03-24 07:17:19

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

I don't think nitrogen runs as a daemon - it just sets the wallpaper and exits.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fossworldprobl … ound_so_i/
https://forum.archlabslinux.com/t/solve … moved/3471

My guess is that the last set wallpaper is being cached somewhere so it remains even without running nitrogen. You could probably wipe it out with xsetroot or feh or any app which writes to the root desktop.


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#13 2023-03-26 06:16:00

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

Thanks for the links. Got it to work after I remembered how I did it on "Beryllium". One have to use the "tty login" option in the Grub menu, then it skips nitrogen when it is commented out in the autostart file.

Was greeted with a kind of light grey background, quite awful if you ask me. The conky had a black background though.

Well, this is just a curiosity thing, nothing important. smile

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#14 2023-04-06 13:54:20

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

Package hddtemp is not available in bookworm.

On its homepage, there is a note saying:

Orphaned/Unmaintained

.
So, it's probably not available in bookworm when it goes stable.

Do we want to create our own package? or can we replace it (I haven't yet found any replacement) or just accept it will be gone?


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#15 2023-04-06 18:02:20

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

rbh wrote:

Package hddtemp is not available in bookworm.

On its homepage, there is a note saying:

Orphaned/Unmaintained

.
So, it's probably not available in bookworm when it goes stable.

Do we want to create our own package? or can we replace it (I haven't yet found any replacement) or just accept it will be gone?

This is now done by the kernel module 'drivetemp'.  wink
I have written this here before:

apt-listchanges wrote:

hddtemp (0.3-beta15-54) unstable; urgency=medium

  hddtemp has been dead upstream for many years and is therefore in a minimal
  maintenance mode. It will be shipped in the Debian Bullseye release, but
  will not be present in the Debian Bookworm release.

  Nowadays the 'drivetemp' kernel module is a better alternative. It uses the
  Linux Hardware Monitoring kernel API (hwmon), so the temperature is returned
  the same way and using the same tools as other sensors.

  Loading this module is as easy as creating a file in the /etc/modules-load.d
  directory:

    echo drivetemp > /etc/modules-load.d/drivetemp.conf

-- Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org>  Tue, 02 Feb 2021 20:27:44 +0100

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#16 2023-04-07 02:23:47

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Re: Bookworm/Boron issues

hddtemp was removed from the Boron bunsen-meta-all (12.0-2) list in January.


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