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deleted0 · 2023-01-05 21:58:19

h8uthemost wrote:

the day it goes # and !.

Nice,

el_koraco · 2023-01-05 22:01:18

h8uthemost wrote:

Manjaro... I like the rolling release.

Rebooting every couple of weeks like some peasant? No thank you.

DeepDayze · 2023-01-06 00:19:38

h8uthemost wrote:

Been using Manjaro for about 6 months or longer and really like it. I like the rolling release, but I miss the stability of a Debian distro. Not that Manjaro is unstable, but I'm always scared time I update if today is the day it goes # and !.

That's because Manjaro is based on Arch like Ubuntu is based on Debian.

lowrider · 2023-01-06 01:07:46

Martin wrote:

Question:
I have used Virtualbox for years for checking out Linux and BSD distros. Sometime in December I came across someone who claimed moving over to QEMU is the thing to do and Virtualbox virtual machines could be converted with ease. Are there any benefits from doing this apart from QEMU being FOSS?
Checking out distros is pretty much all about running Live ISOs but I have a 'permanent' Linux installation in a VM and a WXP installation for legacy reasons.
/Martin

Just try and see. I use qemu with virt-manager (in Debian repo) as a gui for years. Never looked back to Virtualbox since.

DeepDayze · 2023-01-06 02:41:00

lowrider wrote:

Martin wrote:
Question:
I have used Virtualbox for years for checking out Linux and BSD distros. Sometime in December I came across someone who claimed moving over to QEMU is the thing to do and Virtualbox virtual machines could be converted with ease. Are there any benefits from doing this apart from QEMU being FOSS?
Checking out distros is pretty much all about running Live ISOs but I have a 'permanent' Linux installation in a VM and a WXP installation for legacy reasons.
/Martin
Just try and see. I use qemu with virt-manager (in Debian repo) as a gui for years. Never looked back to Virtualbox since.

Seems virtualbox has had some weird bugs lately where VM's lose connection to the host and thus can't access my test webserver that's in a VM. Might try virt-manager sometime.

johnraff · 2023-01-06 02:43:37

lowrider wrote:

Martin wrote:
Question:
I have used Virtualbox for years for checking out Linux and BSD distros. Sometime in December I came across someone who claimed moving over to QEMU is the thing to do and Virtualbox virtual machines could be converted with ease. Are there any benefits from doing this apart from QEMU being FOSS?
Checking out distros is pretty much all about running Live ISOs but I have a 'permanent' Linux installation in a VM and a WXP installation for legacy reasons.
/Martin
Just try and see. I use qemu with virt-manager (in Debian repo) as a gui for years. Never looked back to Virtualbox since.

+1

Martin · 2023-01-06 09:37:52

johnraff wrote:

lowrider wrote:
Martin wrote:
Question:
I have used Virtualbox for years for checking out Linux and BSD distros. Sometime in December I came across someone who claimed moving over to QEMU is the thing to do and Virtualbox virtual machines could be converted with ease. Are there any benefits from doing this apart from QEMU being FOSS?
Checking out distros is pretty much all about running Live ISOs but I have a 'permanent' Linux installation in a VM and a WXP installation for legacy reasons.
/Martin
Just try and see. I use qemu with virt-manager (in Debian repo) as a gui for years. Never looked back to Virtualbox since.
+1

OK, I add that to my computer TODO list, below updating my OS installs.

Right now all things computer are on the back burner though as other projects have priority.

/Martin

Colonel Panic · 2023-01-08 09:54:40

DeepDayze wrote:

h8uthemost wrote:
Been using Manjaro for about 6 months or longer and really like it. I like the rolling release, but I miss the stability of a Debian distro. Not that Manjaro is unstable, but I'm always scared time I update if today is the day it goes # and !.
That's because Manjaro is based on Arch like Ubuntu is based on Debian.

Yes. I can't get Manjaro to install on my system (although weirdly, Mabox, which is based on Manjaro, will install on it).

In other news; Exton has just released his latest version of ExGENT (a live distro based on Gentoo). I've tried it as a live disk and it seems OK except that I can't find any way to adjust the display resolution (there's no xrandr utility). Also, for a 3.5 GB download it's odd that there's no office suite included as standard.

https://www.exton.se/exgent-gentoo-64bi … -in-3-min/

I've since tried to install it but no luck. I may try again when I get some more space on my hard drive.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-01-18 08:29:37)

PackRat · 2023-01-24 14:01:03

@Colonel Panic - with this failed install ( https://forum.archlabslinux.com/t/probl … nu/6993/23 ) were you trying to install into a VM or straight to the hard drive?

And ArchLabs has a new release - https://forum.archlabslinux.com/t/archl … lease/7082

Sector11 · 2023-01-24 16:01:54

And PackRat has 7,294 USB sticks with every distro (version) he as ever tried.

Hence the name.

PackRat's Signature wrote:

You must unlearn what you have learned.
-- yoda

My first boss in the Military, 1968, must have been related to yoda.

True story might be a slight misquote:
Boss: "So you're finished your trades course and now you're a plumber."
Me: "Yes, sir."
Boss: "Good, forget everything they taught you. Now we teach you how things are done in the real world."
Me: "Yes, sir."

That's when my forgetter started getting better.

Colonel Panic · 2023-01-24 16:23:14

PackRat wrote:

@Colonel Panic - with this failed install ( https://forum.archlabslinux.com/t/probl … nu/6993/23 ) were you trying to install into a VM or straight to the hard drive?
And ArchLabs has a new release - https://forum.archlabslinux.com/t/archl … lease/7082

Straight to the hard drive. Thanks for the notification re Arch Labs btw but at the moment I'm trying to see if I can get my ExGENT (based on Gentoo) install right; the old version was one of the most trouble-free distros I ever used, and ExGENT doesn't have SystemD on it which is an attraction. Unfortunately the highest display resolution I can get with it is 1024x768.

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DeepDayze · 2023-01-24 21:12:45

Sector11 wrote:

And PackRat has 7,294 USB sticks with every distro (version) he as ever tried.
Hence the name.
PackRat's Signature wrote:
You must unlearn what you have learned.
-- yoda
My first boss in the Military, 1968, must have been related to yoda.
True story might be a slight misquote:
Boss: "So you're finished your trades course and now you're a plumber."
Me: "Yes, sir."
Boss: "Good, forget everything they taught you. Now we teach you how things are done in the real world."
Me: "Yes, sir."
That's when my forgetter started getting better.

Hahaha good anecdote and bet your nick tells that you are a Star Trek fan

PackRat also has VM's of all his favorite distros and desktops too

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PackRat · 2023-01-25 00:06:14

Sector11 wrote:

And PackRat has 7,294 USB sticks with every distro (version) he as ever tried.

When all else fails, Slackware 9 to the rescue.

Colonel Panic · 2023-02-01 21:28:30

I recently installed John Biles's spin on AntiX, LegacyOS, which is designed to be used on older computers and also incorporates some ideas from other distros; its Conky theme and configuration strongly resembles MX's and it even borrows some IceWM themes from Bunsen. John dispensed with all the other window managers in AntiX and just concentrated on IceWM.

It's working fairly well although I don't particularly like the office suite included, Only Office; it's easy enough to install LibreOffice instead though.

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lowrider · 2023-02-01 22:57:15

Colonel Panic wrote:

I recently installed John Biles's spin on AntiX, LegacyOS, which is designed to be used on older computers and also incorporates some ideas from other distros; its Conky theme and configuration strongly resembles MX's and it even borrows some IceWM themes from Bunsen. John dispensed with all the other window managers in AntiX and just concentrated on IceWM.
It's working fairly well although I don't particularly like the office suite included, Only Office; it's easy enough to install LibreOffice instead though.

Designed for 64Bit only. For older Hardware i just stay with AntiX 32Bit.

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Colonel Panic · 2023-02-01 23:03:33

lowrider wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:
I recently installed John Biles's spin on AntiX, LegacyOS, which is designed to be used on older computers and also incorporates some ideas from other distros; its Conky theme and configuration strongly resembles MX's and it even borrows some IceWM themes from Bunsen. John dispensed with all the other window managers in AntiX and just concentrated on IceWM.
It's working fairly well although I don't particularly like the office suite included, Only Office; it's easy enough to install LibreOffice instead though.
Designed for 64Bit only. For older Hardware i just stay with AntiX 32Bit.

Ah I didn't know that, thanks. I don't think there are many distros still being produced for 32 bit computers, but it's good that AntiX is one of them.

[Edit: here's a note from John Biles himself;

"It is planned for there to be a 32 bit release of LegacyOS 2023. Hopefully this will be released in the coming months."

file:///usr/share/legacyos-help/legacyos.html]

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-02-02 19:58:50)

Colonel Panic · 2023-02-17 07:45:05

For anyone who still uses OpenSUSE or one of its spinoffs (like Gecko, the one I have at the moment); there's a very useful tool which I've just discovered and that enables you to install software from unofficial repos that aren't normally accessible to SUSE's installation tools, by building sets of custom repos for them (just as yay or paru do for Arch). It's called opi (short for Open Build Service Package Installer);

sudo zypper in opi
opi <package>

I've installed librewolf, New Moon (SUSE's equivalent of Pale Moon), qalculate and strawberry this way.

https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comme … umbleweed/

https://cubiclenate.com/2022/11/10/opi- … installer/

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Colonel Panic · 2023-02-27 10:18:49

I've recently downloaded the latest version of WattOS, R12, which is now based on Debian Stable instead of on Ubuntu as it used to be.

Firstly, full marks for design - it's quite dramatic-looking with some striking warm colours and accents set against the now ubiquitous dark backgrounds of the menu and titlebar. What Watt offers though, is rather sparse - no office suite as standard, no e-mail program, no games (not even puzzle games such as Aisle Riot card games, Freecell etc.), and also no calculator or media player apart from VLC so you have to download those if you want them. Still, it all works and maybe it's best seen as a "minimal iso" Debian live disk with some good aesthetics.

[To be fair to Watt, they actually say on their front page that this sparseness is part of the design. I think they could make it easier for their users to decide upon and download the extra software they want though, unless they're targeting more advanced users who are likely to know what they want for themselves.]

https://www.planetwatt.com/

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-03-05 08:49:38)

Martin · 2023-03-09 21:11:15

I am thinking about doing some thing different to my secondary computer, my Lenovo X230. By "different" I mean installing a distro not based on Debian. I find both Void and Salix very tempting. I am a bit intimidated by the work needed to set up full disk encryption.

Any thoughts on this? Salix vs Void... Full disk encryption...

/Martin

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PackRat · 2023-03-10 00:10:23

Martin wrote:

I am thinking about doing some thing different to my secondary computer, my Lenovo EX230. By "different" I mean installing a distro not based on Debian. I find both Void and Salix very tempting. I am a bit intimidated by the work needed to set up full disk encryption.
Any thoughts on this? Salix vs Void... Full disk encryption...
/Martin

Both solid distros.

Void has documentation for full disk encryption installs - https://docs.voidlinux.org/installation/guides/fde.html

You can probably find something similar on the Slackware forum page at LinuxQuestions.org, or the Salix forum. If not, the Salix forum users are good people; they'll help you out.

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