Beryllium beta iso available for testing

dbvolvox · 2022-09-15 09:27:26

dbvolvox wrote:

I am using the Rainforest theme

With Thunderbird my notifications were black text on a black background, not the most legible, couldn't find a way to alter that so have switched to Adwaita which is fine.

DeepDayze · 2022-09-15 12:07:49

Did an install to bare metal to a spare SSD on my laptop and it was smooth as expected with BL and this beta iSO worked quite well with no real rough edges. Planning to do a reinstall of BL on this old laptop as started getting weird lockups and crashes as that was an install that was carried through from BL Hydrogen all the way through Beryllium, so I am confident that things will be rock solid.

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fraxoz · 2022-09-15 13:14:00

I've been daily driving it for about a month now.
After a sudo nala upgrade and a restart, I booted into the system and noticed many icons disappeared (like PNMixer and the exit menu's icons).
I tried rebooting to see if something would change but nothing. Nala (the apt package manager I use) has an undo feature, but since I upgraded everything, it stopped working. Some Steam dependencies also needed to be reinstalled and when rebooting the system it beeps.
I won't be going to try and fix the system, I might as well wipe and reinstall.

DeepDayze · 2022-09-15 14:10:28

fraxoz wrote:

I've been daily driving it for about a month now.
After a sudo nala upgrade and a restart, I booted into the system and noticed many icons disappeared (like PNMixer and the exit menu's icons).
I tried rebooting to see if something would change but nothing. Nala (the apt package manager I use) has an undo feature, but since I upgraded everything, it stopped working. Some Steam dependencies also needed to be reinstalled and when rebooting the system it beeps.
I won't be going to try and fix the system, I might as well wipe and reinstall.

Reinstalling BL and all the apps you use then doing a full upgrade to current versions is a breeze compared to reinstalling Windows. I would generally refresh my BL install every so often to have clean configs as sometimes configs can get stale over time especially on major upgrades thus causing crashes/lockups/weirdness that can be hard to pin down/resolve just like with good ol' Windows :^)

or1o9 · 2022-09-18 07:27:03

Congratulations to the best default BL setup so far! Have only done a couple of small cosmetic changes that is all. A big plus in my book this time is that I even do think that the setup of the menu is perfect!

So thank you very much for all the work you have put into it.

Last edited by or1o9 (2022-09-18 14:35:21)

JasonMehmel · 2022-10-13 17:16:06

Bit the bullet and got on board Beryllium!

So far quite a lot of my preferred programs seem to be working fine!

I've noticed a few weird things, is this the place to post them for solutions? Or do that in Bug Reports, or Basic Help and Support?

(I'll start here and then move them over later if need be:)

- Some weird cursor size changes. I noticed it with Firefox but I think it's true for most programs. On the desktop and file browser, cursor is small, everywhere else it gets larger for some reason. Haven't been able to easily google this.

- Clipping or tearing of the screen in Firefox while scrolling. Turned off the compositor fixed it, but I want that fancy compositing! Chromium doesn't show the issue. I did notice that this is the Firefox ESR, whereas Firefox itself has moved to Snap? Would a newer version fix this?

- Media keys on my USB keyboard aren't working by default. (Play/Pause, Back, Forward) Is this to be solved with xbindkeys or something else?

- Noticing some static in my headphones... wasn't present in Ubuntu. I'll keep an eye on this!

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deleted0 · 2022-10-13 17:26:42

JasonMehmel wrote:

Bit the bullet and got on board Beryllium!

- Some weird cursor size changes. I noticed it with Firefox but I think it's true for most programs. On the desktop and file browser, cursor is small, everywhere else it gets larger for some reason. Haven't been able to easily google this.

I've fixed this by changing the mouse cursor size and setting it back. Just toggling it seems to reset something.
Let us know how you make out.

8bit

JasonMehmel · 2022-10-13 18:10:56

eight.bit.al wrote:

I've fixed this by changing the mouse cursor size and setting it back. Just toggling it seems to reset something.
Let us know how you make out.
8bit

Any tips on how to change that size? I can't find it among the config files that I'm used to!

deleted0 · 2022-10-14 14:03:03

Sorry, I don't remember how I did it. At 70, the memory isn't what it used to be. I don't have Openbox running on any of my machines, currently.

darknetmatrix · 2022-10-14 14:40:28

JasonMehmel wrote:

eight.bit.al wrote:
I've fixed this by changing the mouse cursor size and setting it back. Just toggling it seems to reset something.
Let us know how you make out.
8bit
Any tips on how to change that size? I can't find it among the config files that I'm used to!

I think it's in .Xresources you can place

Xcursor.size: 32

or the size you want

JasonMehmel · 2022-10-14 16:23:38

I did find some .Xresources notes yesterday; playing with that setting didn't help!

But after a reboot, the cursor size problem is fixed! At least for now.

Still dealing with:

- Firefox screen tearing

- trying to figure out how to implement the USB keyboard media keys

- keeping an eye (ear!) on static in the headphones.

-Also (new issue discovery) trying to find the best method to deal with switching between laptop-only and dual screen; BL/ARandR doesn't automatically switch when that happens so it's a few extra steps preparing it.

johnraff · 2022-10-14 23:09:12

JasonMehmel wrote:

Still dealing with:
- Firefox screen tearing

Have a look at menu>Preferences>Compositor>Edit Compositor system settings (root)
There are some notes there about screen tearing.

It might be fixable by tweaking the Backend, eg (~ line 73) try enabling --backend glx and/or --vsync

JasonMehmel · 2022-10-14 23:54:44

johnraff wrote:

Have a look at menu>Preferences>Compositor>Edit Compositor system settings (root)
There are some notes there about screen tearing.
It might be fixable by tweaking the Backend, eg (~ line 73) try enabling --backend glx and/or --vsync

I think that worked! I enabled both: not sure what risks that might have, but currently there's no screen tearing that I can see!

Now I'm just trying to figure out this mouse cursor size-changing problem. It changes for different apps. It's small for Sublime Text and file browsing or the desktop or terminal... but big for Firefox and Geany (that one surprised me.)

deleted0 · 2022-10-15 00:29:14

JasonMehmel wrote:

Now I'm just trying to figure out this mouse cursor size-changing problem. It changes for different apps.

It's frustrating. I searched for hours and found nothing on it that worked. On Xfce4, opening the GUI mouse font dialog and changing settings fixed it. (I remembered it)

unklar · 2022-10-15 13:21:23

here had

gtk-cursor-theme-size=0

in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini helped.

JasonMehmel · 2022-10-15 18:34:24

unklar wrote:

here had
gtk-cursor-theme-size=0
in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini helped.

Well, that's interesting. I played with that setting, changing it to 8 and 16.

Now the mouse cursor is small in Firefox and big in the file browser and BL desktop! It's somehow been reversed!

What's also confusing is that I tried turning all the setting back and then restarted GTK and Openbox, but it's still persisting. Not sure if I fully need to log out and in to test these or not.

ghorvath · 2022-11-01 16:36:13

Big thanks for the beta release!

Installed on a laptop and on a desktop. Latter needed nomodeset for grub, otherwise it wouldn't boot. bl-welcome offered me several options, one of them the bunsen-images-archive install. I decided not to install it, and then later thought I would install it, anyway, but couldn't find it in the repository. I only found the bunsen-images and bunsen-images-base packages. Is that intended?

Otherwise looks good no issues whatsoever. Installed task-xfce-desktop with no-recommends, and I see that it does have the same right-click menu, good stuff! If only the keybinds (Win+T, Win+W) would work....

BTW, I have a laptop with Lithium on it. Is there a detailed description how I can upgrade that to Beryllium? Or is it as simple as rewriting the apt sources.list files, and sudo apt full-upgrade?

rbh · 2022-11-01 19:07:44

ghorvath wrote:

the bunsen-images-archive install. I decided not to install it, and then later thought I would install it, anyway, but couldn't find it in the repository. I only found the bunsen-images and bunsen-images-base packages. Is that intended?

Package bunsen-images-archive, has on github been renamed to bunsen-images-extra, for beryllium. The package has not yet been pushed to repository pkg.bunsenlabs.org. There is some other minor fixes to do on the repository.
You can install bunsen-images-archive from the development repo. Here is info: "HOW-TO set up an experimental BL Beryllium system on Bullseye." https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=7356
Did not the installation also add sources for dev. repo?

You can also download from https://kelaino.bunsenlabs.org/~johnraf … -1_all.deb and install from disk with "dpkg -i".

BTW, I have a laptop with Lithium on it. Is there a detailed description how I can upgrade that to Beryllium? Or is it as simple as rewriting the apt sources.list files, and sudo apt full-upgrade?

Debian has a chapter about upgrading from Debian 10: https://www.debian.org/releases/bullsey … ng.en.html.

Note the ladder:
First update system to latest packages. (apt update && apt upgrade)
Then you rewrite sources.
Run "apt update && apt upgrade" again
And lastly dist-upgrade.

Edit:
There is advantages with upgrading to new version and to do a new installation.
Maybee it is slightly better with new installation...

Regardless, do a backup of data and known important configurations.

Last edited by rbh (2022-11-01 19:49:39)

rbh · 2022-11-01 22:19:30

Here is BL tutorial "Upgrading from Helium to Lithium" https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=6913

johnraff · 2022-11-02 00:09:28

rbh wrote:

Package bunsen-images-archive, has on github been renamed to bunsen-images-extra, for beryllium. The package has not yet been pushed to repository pkg.bunsenlabs.org. There is some other minor fixes to do on the repository.

Sorry about the confusion here. In fact, the source repository named "bunsen-images-extra" has existed for a long time, though the package with that name has not been released recently. Now "bunsen-images-archives" (note the final s) and "bunsen-images-extra" are both built from that source repo. "-archives" is in the dev repo, but not in the main repo yet. In fact there is a lot of updating that needs to be done in the main repository.

It's not a high priority, but we can also release "bunsen-images-extra" some day, containing some random icons, ASCII art and the like.

Did not the installation also add sources for dev. repo?

I can answer here - no, the beta iso does not add the dev repo to apt sources, only the main repo which the official iso will use. The reason it works OK with only the out-of-date main repo is that the necessary updated bunsen packages are included in the iso build.

Once the server migration is all done, and the main BL repos have been brought up to date, most of this confusion should go away.

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