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DeepDayze · 2022-07-18 18:22:40

unklar wrote:

DeepDayze wrote:
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In addition I'd suggest seeing a battery/AC indicator to tell whether you have ac or battery power.
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ceeslans wrote:
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ac_connected_cmd = notify-send 'Connected to power'
ac_disconnected_cmd = notify-send 'Disconnected from power'

That'll work, so maybe I can ditch the xfce powermanager completely.

sleekmason · 2022-07-18 19:46:26

DeepDayze wrote:

unklar wrote:
DeepDayze wrote:
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In addition I'd suggest seeing a battery/AC indicator to tell whether you have ac or battery power.
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ceeslans wrote:
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ac_connected_cmd = notify-send 'Connected to power'
ac_disconnected_cmd = notify-send 'Disconnected from power'
That'll work, so maybe I can ditch the xfce powermanager completely.

Man oh man what a fickle thing to figure for a distro. I started with using a tint2 executor for all the battery stuff, and xfce4-power-manager for the settings and such. Later, I had to add icons to ~/.local as a fix for xfce4-power-manager because of the icon fiasco. It was either that or the fix Johnraff did with the xfce4-power-manager .deb, but this would have had it's own issues to deal with distrowise as well.

Anyway, now using mate-power-manager, I was able to lose the extra icons in ~/.local, and the tint2 executor, but then lost my notifications as well. Hence the new tint2 "Battery Notify" work/button.

If I remember correctly, you can do away with the power manager completely and still have suspend on close, and screen off after 10 minutes, which should serve the majority of people, at least the ones who are reading this:) *edit Yep! at least the suspend bit. haven't checked the screen on/off, but hopefully it is as I remember.

Another option is to grab the full tint2 folder from my Themes repo https://github.com/sleekmason/Themes and it will give you what Lilidog had before now, with the green battery icon and the notifications.

For the Notification sounds in Lilidog, It's either On or Off for all notifications, and also a way to select 6 different sounds, though it's easy enough to find and add your own to the mix. The 'sounds' folder is in ~/.dunst, and the script dunst-wav-changer in /usr/local/bin for changing the names. Probably easier to just rename the existing sound files so as to not have to edit the script. Look in Menu --> Toggles --> Sound to check it out.

johnraff wrote:

Do I remember reading that dunst had a way of putting out audio alerts too?
I've been caught several times on my laptop by sudden suspends due to low battery that I just hadn't noticed.

Yes! We touched on it briefly a few months back Dunst Sound Notifications
Basically right now what I have is a simple yad dialog to turn sounds on or off, and a selection of six different sounds to choose from ranging from a light ping to a gong. I'm using sed to make on the fly changes and it works like a charm.

There are three different priority condition levels used in the basic dunst configuration. At some point I would like to separate out three different sounds for the three different conditions. A train whistle on a critical battery would be a hoot!

I could see you doing this up right, with all the cool stuff included . . . :) As you seem interested, I'll just cross my fingers a bit.

Last edited by sleekmason (2022-07-18 22:35:54)

johnraff · 2022-07-18 23:47:20

^Dunst to replace xfce notification daemon is on my list of things to think about for Boron. As long as they're easy for users to switch off, sounds could be a nice addition, especially for important alerts.

DeepDayze · 2022-07-19 00:03:45

sleekmason wrote:

DeepDayze wrote:
That'll work, so maybe I can ditch the xfce powermanager completely.
Man oh man what a fickle thing to figure for a distro. I started with using a tint2 executor for all the battery stuff, and xfce4-power-manager for the settings and such. Later, I had to add icons to ~/.local as a fix for xfce4-power-manager because of the icon fiasco. It was either that or the fix Johnraff did with the xfce4-power-manager .deb, but this would have had it's own issues to deal with distrowise as well.
Anyway, now using mate-power-manager, I was able to lose the extra icons in ~/.local, and the tint2 executor, but then lost my notifications as well. Hence the new tint2 "Battery Notify" work/button.
If I remember correctly, you can do away with the power manager completely and still have suspend on close, and screen off after 10 minutes, which should serve the majority of people, at least the ones who are reading this:) *edit Yep! at least the suspend bit. haven't checked the screen on/off, but hopefully it is as I remember.
Another option is to grab the full tint2 folder from my Themes repo https://github.com/sleekmason/Themes and it will give you what Lilidog had before now, with the green battery icon and the notifications.
For the Notification sounds in Lilidog, It's either On or Off for all notifications, and also a way to select 6 different sounds, though it's easy enough to find and add your own to the mix. The 'sounds' folder is in ~/.dunst, and the script dunst-wav-changer in /usr/local/bin for changing the names. Probably easier to just rename the existing sound files so as to not have to edit the script. Look in Menu --> Toggles --> Sound to check it out.
johnraff wrote:
Do I remember reading that dunst had a way of putting out audio alerts too?
I've been caught several times on my laptop by sudden suspends due to low battery that I just hadn't noticed.
Yes! We touched on it briefly a few months back Dunst Sound Notifications
Basically right now what I have is a simple yad dialog to turn sounds on or off, and a selection of six different sounds to choose from ranging from a light ping to a gong. I'm using sed to make on the fly changes and it works like a charm.
There are three different priority condition levels used in the basic dunst configuration. At some point I would like to separate out three different sounds for the three different conditions. A train whistle on a critical battery would be a hoot!
I could see you doing this up right, with all the cool stuff included . . . As you seem interested, I'll just cross my fingers a bit.

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ac_connected_cmd = notify-send 'Connected to power'
ac_disconnected_cmd = notify-send 'Disconnected from power'

Fun times indeed.

Train whistle for critical alerts would be wacky for sure. Gonna try that out when it's all ready!

Last edited by DeepDayze (2022-07-19 00:04:47)

Martin · 2022-07-20 21:55:09

Back to playing with Lilidog Live session after having done some of that with Beryllium.

I think the lack of perceived snappiness has to do with the compositor, all the business of fading windows etc. Switching Picom off helped. I always run BL without compositor. My taste...

Talking of which: Comparing the Lilidog and Beryllium UX I find I like Lilidog better. At least for now.

/Martin

sleekmason · 2022-07-26 17:34:24

New release Lilidog-22.07.25 https://sourceforge.net/projects/lilidog/ And for the updates page: Updates

This was kind of a strange cycle that I wound up splitting into two releases just a couple of days apart.

In the 22.07.25 release, (most current), I added a new dark theme with green accents to match the Papirus-Green folder icons. making both the new theme "Anolis", and the Papirus-green icons default for a while. Currently, I have Papirus-Green, Papirus-Black, and Pairus-Bluegrey available, and can add others if folks are using them on a regular basis.

The three Papirus themes are folder icons only, using the existing Breeze icons to fill in for everything else. This works quite well to keep everything lightweight while still providing some cool folder icons. Installing papirus-icon-theme will automatically switch over the rest of the theme icons to Papirus, and if you use the installer from Lilidog, you get the additional 9 colors as well.

The Battery notify script is now a yad dialog with an extra check to see if you already have it enabled, and a separate choice for the threshold amount. Still a work in progress, this should also have a new option or two soon, and an auto removal from the Tint2 Options dialog itself if using a desktop.

Anyhow, here are the relevant parts of both releases.

Separated polybar from dk and created a separate polybar installer for independent use with a toggle on/off switch.
Removed the /home module from dk startup.
Created low battery, power, and plug notifications to be enabled for laptop users in tint2 options.
Created a critical battery percentage chooser, to select the level before a low battery notice.
Added gstreamer1.0-libav to enable wma files to be played in Pragha, and removed gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad.
Created a light theme, "Glacier". This includes gtk-3.0, gtk-2.0, Openbox. Geany, and xfce4 terminal themes.
Changed the fonts in Geany, Mousepad, and xfce4-terminal from JetBrains Mono Light, to JetBrains Mono Regular.
Adjusted the fontsize changer and "default" Lilidog theme to use JetBrains Mono Regular.
Changed keybind for xkill windows to "ctrl alt + x".
Created a cheatsheat for dk keybinds. Open with "super + l", or look in ~/.config/dk.
Replaced thunar folder icon in the minimal edition with the classic thunar hammer.

part2
Created the theme Anolis using the existing Oceanic base theme and adding a green accent to match Papirus-Green icons.
Added three different icons folder themes of pairus-green, papirus-black, and papirus-bluegrey.
Changed the default folder icon theme to Papirus-Green. Install papirus-icon-theme for the rest of the Papirus icons.
Changed the default GTK and Openbox themes to Anolis, which has green accents to match the papirus-green folder icons.
Changed the Battery Notify script to a yad dialog, offering more checks and notifications.

jeffreyC · 2022-07-26 22:15:42

Is the battery script available by itself? I like using tint2 for a panel with a WM and have even used it with Xfce instead of the built-in panel.

A train whistle sound would not work for me, I live way too close to a crossing for it to get my attention, the only thing they do is interfere with listening to music or videos.

DeepDayze · 2022-07-26 22:54:52

jeffreyC wrote:

Is the battery script available by itself? I like using tint2 for a panel with a WM and have even used it with Xfce instead of the built-in panel.
A train whistle sound would not work for me, I live way too close to a crossing for it to get my attention, the only thing they do is interfere with listening to music or videos.

I think the sound is configurable to your preference.

sleekmason · 2022-07-27 03:18:35

jeffreyC wrote:

Is the battery script available by itself? I like using tint2 for a panel with a WM and have even used it with Xfce instead of the built-in panel.
A train whistle sound would not work for me, I live way too close to a crossing for it to get my attention, the only thing they do is interfere with listening to music or videos.

Well sure. What I have so far is here: https://github.com/sleekmason/Configura … ry-scripts

Basically 5 scripts called by the 'tint2-battery-notify' script. I need to learn how to call a script from just a section inside another script.

I'm using sed to replace the values while trying to account for any issues that might arise.

These are designed for lilidog, so there may be a caveat or two.
Off hand I would think everything should work for any setup. Might take a second click to reset some items if already filled in. Make a backup:).

If you put all six scripts in ~/bin, use:

tint2-battery-notify

to get the initial yad dialog. Remember to set permissions.
It will be necessary to already have:

bat1_format = %p

set in your tint2rc. I set that one in advance in Lilidog (or will be next release). This, so the setting wouldn't get caught in future changes, making it easy for people to add info to the line.

There may be other items to adjust as well. Ya never know.

Also, the color changer will change your text back to the lilidog default of a light bluegrey if changed to the warning red color. <-- not sure if I'm adding or changing something here in the future or not.

If you are talking about just the sound scripts to go with the notifications? they go through dunst. A good start to that is here: Dunst Sound Notifications

A train whistle would scare the ever livin' crap out me if I wasn't ready for it:)

Last edited by sleekmason (2022-07-27 03:38:07)

sleekmason · 2022-07-27 12:19:27

@jefferyC It occurred to me you may be referring to the battery script for tint2 that has the executor for a battery icon? This is different from all of the above I wrote about. ^above is new stuff for use with mate-power-manager, or a super minimal setup.

For a setup with a proper battery icon and notifications, grab the tint2-with-battery-executor folder from https://github.com/sleekmason/Themes Inside is the tint2 folder to be placed in ~/.config, and this should provide you with a full battery setup. You should be able to just grab the relevant parts.

All of the icon paths will need to be adjusted or removed I would think. It's either that or grab the icons as well. They are in the "icons" folder, assuming you are grabbing the whole "Themes" github folder. Anyhow, there should be something usable out of all this somewhere.

Martin · 2022-07-27 18:57:54

Trying to keep up with your release pace I took the latest version for a quick spin earlier today: Nice. I like the green icon theme.

I haven't had time for any other testing.

/Martin

sleekmason · 2022-07-27 20:39:38

Martin wrote:

Trying to keep up with your release pace I took the latest version for a quick spin earlier today: Nice. I like the green icon theme.
I haven't had time for any other testing.
/Martin

Thank you much:)

The further I get the more I find! When I do theme changes and the like, I end up releasing a few times in fairly quick succession, though I don't guess there is that much difference in the release times.

dmontaine2 · 2022-07-31 03:58:43

Just downloaded Lilidog for the first time and installed it on my HP Pavilion 15z laptop. As much as I like Bunsenlabs, I find this is, for me, even better.

Things I really like:

1. wireless networking works during the install and after, unlike the current beta of BL.
2. since it uses only Debian repositories, I can update to Bookworm or Sid without worries about losing updates from private repositories.
3. While I like the very dark new BL theme, I actually find the Lilidog theme to be more relaxing.
4. I appreciate the additional GUI based configuration options and the whole set of toggles.

If BL had a Spins page, Lilidog would be my recommendation for the first entry.

As someone whose eyesight is not what it used to be, I really appreciate the ability to quickly change font sizes and other accessibility options.

If distros were dinner, then most desktops would be way to much, BL a tad too little and Lilidog just right.

Thank you.

johnraff · 2022-07-31 04:51:22

dmontaine2 wrote:

...wireless networking works during the install and after, unlike the current beta of BL.

Wireless is supposed to work during BL's install phase. If you have the time, I wonder if you could post a bug report?
With wireless support, so much depends on the specific hardware, but I would be curious to know what firmware Lilidog is shipping that BL is not.

sleekmason · 2022-07-31 12:21:51

dmontaine2 wrote:

Just downloaded Lilidog for the first time and installed it on my HP Pavilion 15z laptop. As much as I like Bunsenlabs, I find this is, for me, even better.
Things I really like:
1. wireless networking works during the install and after, unlike the current beta of BL.
2. since it uses only Debian repositories, I can update to Bookworm or Sid without worries about losing updates from private repositories.
3. While I like the very dark new BL theme, I actually find the Lilidog theme to be more relaxing.
4. I appreciate the additional GUI based configuration options and the whole set of toggles.
If BL had a Spins page, Lilidog would be my recommendation for the first entry.
As someone whose eyesight is not what it used to be, I really appreciate the ability to quickly change font sizes and other accessibility options.
If distros were dinner, then most desktops would be way to much, BL a tad too little and Lilidog just right.
Thank you.

You are most welcome! Thank you for your kind comments. Improvements will continue:) If you find something awkward or bothersome, let me know:)

sleekmason · 2022-07-31 12:31:45

johnraff wrote:

dmontaine2 wrote:
...wireless networking works during the install and after, unlike the current beta of BL.
Wireless is supposed to work during BL's install phase. If you have the time, I wonder if you could post a bug report?
With wireless support, so much depends on the specific hardware, but I would be curious to know what firmware Lilidog is shipping that BL is not.

The only thing I can think of would be ath10k in the installer itself?

Standard fair here, though please tell me if you see something I'm missing.

firmware-atheros
firmware-ath9k-htc
firmware-amd-graphics
firmware-b43-installer
firmware-b43legacy-installer
firmware-brcm80211
firmware-bnx2x
firmware-bnx2
firmware-cavium
firmware-iwlwifi
firmware-ivtv
firmware-ipw2x00
firmware-intelwimax
firmware-intel-sound
firmware-linux-nonfree
firmware-linux
firmware-linux-free
firmware-libertas
firmware-misc-nonfree
firmware-myricom
firmware-netronome
firmware-netxen
firmware-qcom-soc
firmware-qcom-media
firmware-qlogic
firmware-realtek
firmware-samsung
firmware-siano
firmware-ti-connectivity
firmware-zd1211

And then in the installer, I only have b43, b43legacy, ath9k_htc, and ath10k. Do you have more in the installer itself as well? I am not sure what Debian will grab on it's own without being directly in the installer, but didn't see any reason to go adding the whole list.

@dmontain2, Do you know which card you have? You can find out in Menu --> Utilities --> Inxi Info.

unklar · 2022-07-31 15:11:54

dmontaine2 wrote:

2. since it uses only Debian repositories, I can update to Bookworm or Sid without worries about losing updates from private repositories.

I think you are confusing something here about using testing/sid.
Both in lilidog and in BL you have to comment in or out the corresponding repo's manually. AND, this is best done right after installing the NEW ISO. If you do this only after half a year or even later, the risk of breakage is more likely. Especially with 'private Repo's', whatever that means.

dmontaine2 · 2022-08-03 04:51:22

#unkier You are right, I had changed the repository entries right after installation to point to sid, but after a few days there were several 'paper cuts'. By private, I meant any repository that was not Debian, probably used the wrong word.

@johnraff, my laptop is an HP Pavilion 15z-cw000. It has an Intel 7265 wireless.

johnraff · 2022-08-03 05:09:16

dmontaine2 wrote:

@johnraff, my laptop is an HP Pavilion 15z-cw000. It has an Intel 7265 wireless.

The firmware for that seems to be firmware-iwlwifi which both BL and Lilidog are shipping, so I'm puzzled why you found a difference there...

sleekmason wrote:

And then in the installer, I only have b43, b43legacy, ath9k_htc, and ath10k. Do you have more in the installer itself as well?

No, we only explicitly pack the b43 stuff in the installer, everything else is handled by live-build and debian-installer between them, at least until the full system is installed. We don't even pack those ath* packages - I'll have to take a look at that (although they shouldn't apply to dmontaine2's case). Did you find some reference to them on a mailing list somewhere?

unklar · 2022-08-03 07:25:43

johnraff wrote:

dmontaine2 wrote:
@johnraff, my laptop is an HP Pavilion 15z-cw000. It has an Intel 7265 wireless.
The firmware for that seems to be firmware-iwlwifi which both BL and Lilidog are shipping, so I'm puzzled why you found a difference there...

I think it should provide the output of the command

rfkill list

to find out what is wrong with its laptop.
Probably a wmi module of the laptop will be the cause.

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