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#1 2022-07-18 02:37:10

johnraff
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Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Yes it's taken a while... but finally we can share a beta Beryllium iso with people here on the forum for testing.

One request: please don't publicise it outside this community yet. Why not? because our online infrastructure is going through changes including - but not limited to - forum migration, and it isn't yet ready to handle an "official" release. A lot of new users with issues to sort out is not what we need right now. In fact, new user registrations on the forum are disabled right now, which wouldn't present a very welcoming first impression for someone who'd just happened upon a Beryllium iso. roll

Anyway:

Download
https://sourceforge.net/projects/bunsen … o/download
The final /download is optional, and omitting it makes for a simpler wget in fact.

sha256 checksum
b73f1e8b5b507c97b58929a5d5784ee1a41af9d02b25b8b379fece352d0702ea

It's beta 7 so it's already been through some bugfixing, but please post any issues or annoyances you find!

*) Small things that are easily fixed will probably make it into the final official build.

*) Likewise big troublesome things if they're show-stoppers.

*) Things that need more thought, or work, than their priority demands will go in a post-release upgrade or maybe into Boron.

I'll try to get some Release Notes written up before the official release, but I'm sure you'll all notice the new very dark "Dragon" theme by our regular contributor @sleekmason. If you want something lighter, or just to go back to the Lithium look, check out menu -> Utilities -> BLOB. I found that the dark look grows on you though - it's been my daily desktop for a couple of months now.

A few other things:
*) 32bit version should follow soon
*) netinstall script still hasn't been touched - probably post-release
*) improved welcome script that should clear up after offline installs, also offers to check for missing firmware, improved scrolling by @eight.bit.al.
*) BLOB got some more improvements
*) conky scripts allow setting a desktop if non-sticky
*) many other small tweaks & improvements

Thanks for your patience to date!

NOTE: it's fine to install off this "test" iso. The installed system will be exactly the same as the Beryllium Official Release, except possibly for small tweaks that might arrive with the next apt upgrade.

Last edited by johnraff (2022-07-21 02:22:09)


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#2 2022-07-18 09:26:37

Martin
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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Playing with live session on a virtual machine now.
No obvious issues so far.
Very dark default theme.

/Martin


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#3 2022-07-18 12:21:19

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Posting this from bare metal install on laptop. No significant issues so far. If there is something you want me to try and break, let me know.

edit: Since you are looking for little annoyances, it balked on initial wireless network WAP/WSK install. I had to do it twice. Could have been user error. The post install script didn't like adding BL backports for images and packages.  User experience has been great so far.

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#4 2022-07-18 18:12:34

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

a_hardwick wrote:

The post install script didn't like adding BL backports for images and packages.

I asume you mean the bl-welcome script. Att the present, there is no packages in bullseye-backports. The file http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian/dists/ … 4/Packages is empty. Buster-backports, has only two packages: mpv and mpv-dbgsym.


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#5 2022-07-18 18:31:09

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Absolutely outstanding! I have BL in a VM and will be installing in just a bit.  Noticed you added HW-probe! Nice utility.

a_hardwick wrote:

edit: Since you are looking for little annoyances, it balked on initial wireless network WAP/WSK install. I had to do it twice. Could have been user error.

Oh man! Of the now four computers in the house, two of them have what I think may just be debian installer issues though I don't know for sure.  My laptop occasionally fails to initiate networking and I have to cancel and start again. None of the others have that issue, but I have one that will fail the grub install on occasion for no good reason either.

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#6 2022-07-18 19:52:57

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Everything working out of the box for the live session.

screenshot or it never happened -

Screenshot-2022-07-18-19-51-21.png

link to image

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#7 2022-07-20 03:49:51

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Looks good...
When RL allows ....I'll try it.


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#8 2022-07-20 21:11:43

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Great job!
Works out of the box. Installed it in VirtualBox, had some weird problems to get linux-headers in order to build VirdualBox guest additions (and get a decent resolution), but it had more to do with debian installation and virtualbox itself than really with beryllium. Once set, everything seemed to work fine.

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#9 2022-07-21 02:21:20

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

BTW it's fine to install off this "test" iso. The installed system will be exactly the same as the Beryllium Official Release, except possibly for small tweaks that might arrive with the next apt upgrade.


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#10 2022-07-21 15:27:18

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

I have a minor question regarding changing screen resolution (seems to happen both in the current and beta):

- in the current version of Bunsen Labs, when I connect an ultrawide external monitor I run a small script to load the settings, which open ARandR. When I apply the settings, the wallpaper gets messed up as well as any open windows. I then go into wallpaper settings and click apply, and everything fixes.
- in VMware, the Beryllium Beta does a similar thing when resizing the virtual machine, and can be fixed in the same fashion (wallpaper > apply).

It is just a small inconvenience, I was just wondering if it is something that could be easily remedied, or is more involved in the display manager or something.

Bunsen Labs has been my main distro for years and I absulutely love it - it has never let me down. Like most longer term Linux users I've tried and used dozens of distros over the past couple of decades. I like Bunsen Labs the best because (to me) it has the right balance of minimalism and functionality.

One last question, will it be just a simple dist-upgrade once it is released? Or any other additional steps required?

Thanks!

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#11 2022-07-21 17:12:11

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

WolfeN wrote:

- in the current version of Bunsen Labs, when I connect an ultrawide external monitor I run a small script to load the settings, which open ARandR. When I apply the settings, the wallpaper gets messed up as well as any open windows. I then go into wallpaper settings and click apply, and everything fixes.
- in VMware, the Beryllium Beta does a similar thing when resizing the virtual machine, and can be fixed in the same fashion (wallpaper > apply).

It is just a small inconvenience, I was just wondering if it is something that could be easily remedied, or is more involved in the display manager or something.

I handle it by either adding

nitrogen --restore

to the resolution change script or ensuring the resolution change comes before that in autostart.


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#12 2022-07-21 19:36:47

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

@ WolfeN, for wm part:
If all normal stuff fails, then you could script something up,
1. if not virtual, exit, else 2. (https://ostechnix.com/check-linux-system-physical-virtual-machine/, systemd-detect-virt seems to be working as user)
2. wait for resolution to change forever (xprop -root -spy ...something), if it changes 3.
3. nitrogen --restore
4. goto 2
(Such script could be run from openbox autostart)

edit: working (for me) example, tested only in wmware (should work with oracle as well).

Last edited by brontosaurusrex (2022-07-21 20:23:59)

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#13 2022-07-21 23:05:24

johnraff
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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

WolfeN wrote:

One last question, will it be just a simple dist-upgrade once it is released? Or any other additional steps required?

Not even a dist-upgrade will be needed. This test iso is already configured for the official BL Beryllium apt repositories, so if you install from it, all you'll have to do in the future is the regular apt update/upgrade you do anyway. Any glitches we might find in the system before the official release will be fixed via package upgrades.

At the moment the official Beryllium repository is not being upgraded, but that will be restored before the official release.


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#14 2022-07-21 23:53:46

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Bearded_Blunder wrote:
WolfeN wrote:

- in the current version of Bunsen Labs, when I connect an ultrawide external monitor I run a small script to load the settings, which open ARandR. When I apply the settings, the wallpaper gets messed up as well as any open windows. I then go into wallpaper settings and click apply, and everything fixes.
- in VMware, the Beryllium Beta does a similar thing when resizing the virtual machine, and can be fixed in the same fashion (wallpaper > apply).

It is just a small inconvenience, I was just wondering if it is something that could be easily remedied, or is more involved in the display manager or something.

I handle it by either adding

nitrogen --restore

to the resolution change script or ensuring the resolution change comes before that in autostart.

That works awesome - thanks!  wink

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#15 2022-07-23 00:39:07

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Downloading it now.  We give it test run in live mode when I get a chance.


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#16 2022-07-23 04:10:19

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Okay tested this ISO in Vbox and it installed quite swiftly. Loving the dark theme for the installer...nice touch. The new items in the bl-welcome are great additions.

First run after install gave me black screen in vbox so rebooted to console mode and installed the VBox Guest additions along with the required deps and kernel headers. The next reboot greeted me with a nice BL login screen and then was able to login and adjust vbox to full screen. This seems to be the only quibble I had with trying the new BL release in a VM. Bare metal should be no issues there.

In all it appears to be a very  nice release...and I am sure there will be some little niggles to work out before releasing the final build.

Nice work BL team!


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#17 2022-07-24 22:16:44

exe
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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

hi, i testing today Beryllium, good work ! I like so much.

I think that the search menu browser is not working, is it?


thanks !

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#18 2022-07-25 01:28:22

johnraff
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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Thanks everyone for checking it out, and the encouragement!

DeepDayze wrote:

First run after install gave me black screen in vbox so rebooted to console mode and installed the VBox Guest additions along with the required deps and kernel headers. The next reboot greeted me with a nice BL login screen and then was able to login and adjust vbox to full screen. This seems to be the only quibble I had with trying the new BL release in a VM.

Maybe we could add that hint to the Release Notes, even if it's not BL-specific? I seem to remember having to do something like that, some years ago.

exe wrote:

I think that the search menu browser is not working, is it?

Hi exe, you mean the regular jgmenu that comes up if you right-click on the screen, or use the flame icon on the bottom-left? There's no "search box", you just start typing when the menu opens and the items will change to match.


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#19 2022-08-06 11:03:25

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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Hi All,

I've recently installed Beryllium 64 bit. I am not a linux expert by any stretch of the imagination but have used all the previous releases.

I use the system headless connecting to it with XRDP as it suits my purposes and would like to make the following observations.

When connecting using Remote Desktop I get a message about running "Conky" which I don't need as I prefer it the same as as a non remote logon.

I can not open some of the applications- File Manager for example without using the terminal and to get that to work I have to enter the following

xhost +
sudo thunar

thunar

and

xhost +
thunar

Does not work - thunar does not open so I end up having to use thunar as root

Apart from this everything seems to work very well for me and I like the new release. I just don't have the knowledge to change things.

Regards Keith

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#20 2022-08-06 19:42:27

ekzotic
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Re: Beryllium beta iso available for testing

Hello! Thanks for building new version of Bunsenlabs!
Installed fine on desktop with wired connection. In the welcome script I chose Bunsen Images Archives and isenkram-cli and it failed to install.
"Unable to locate package bunsen-images-archives"
"Failed to install isenkram-cli bunsen-images-archives."
Other than that everything is fine.
I noticed ram usage on boot is around 700mb vs 300mb for Lithium, do you know why?
Also nvidia drivers from debian repo failed to work for some reason but from nvidia website installed fine, maybe my error?

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