New ISO build to try.

sleekmason · 2022-07-11 11:57:38

New release 22-07-10 https://sourceforge.net/projects/lilidog/

Whats new:
Bullseye Point release 11.4
Created dk WM installer to build and install the dk window manager with a simple polybar panel. Try mod4 + j for a jgmenu.
Created an i3-gaps installer to install i3 with a simple i3status bar.
created pcmanfm installer.
Added the Lilidog Installers to a middle-click action in tint2.
Added gstreamer plugins for pragha use.
Alphabetized and rearranged installer menu.

The dk window manager rocks. I can easily see using this long term. What I did for this was create an installer that grabs the git repo, builds, and then installs dk with a simple polybar panel already set up. On the polybar, I wanted to use the 'example config' and keep it all in one file for the moment. I still wound up having to add the xdesktops module but the rest seems to be standard. @PackRat, is that a module you created? Really useful.

i3-gaps is pretty dang cool too but has it's issues that will need to be worked out.

On both of these . . . I've never used either of these or any other wm of this nature, so I am sure to either be missing some things or have done something strange. Please let me know of any issues, and more importantly any fixes I might need to add in.

The concept was to get both of them to a usable comfortable state where users can begin to customize. Doing so from scratch is a bit of a hassle.

I feel very odd indeed posting here these days. If there is something I can do to help the BL situation, I would be happy to do so.

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deleted0 · 2022-07-11 13:28:32

sleekmason wrote:

I feel very odd indeed posting here these days. If there is something I can do to help the BL situation, I would be happy to do so.

There is something in Mr. Raff's makeup that thinks it's okay to take a year to put out a release. It's not okay. And making it worse is no one else will speak up about it.

PackRat · 2022-07-11 14:56:45

sleekmason wrote:

New release 22-07-10 https://sourceforge.net/projects/lilidog/
The dk window manager rocks. I can easily see using this long term. What I did for this was create an installer that grabs the git repo, builds, and then installs dk with a simple polybar panel already set up. On the polybar, I wanted to use the 'example config' and keep it all in one file for the moment. I still wound up having to add the xdesktops module but the rest seems to be standard. @PackRat, is that a module you created? Really useful.

No, dk works with the polybar module for workspaces; I just modify colors:

[module/dk-workspaces]
type = internal/xworkspaces
pin-workspaces = true
enable-click = true
enable-scroll = false
format-padding = 0
icon-0 = 1;
icon-1 = 2;
icon-2 = 3;
icon-3 = 4;
icon-4 = 5;
icon-5 = 6;
icon-6 = 7;
icon-7 = 8;
icon-8 = 9;
icon-9 = 10;
icon-default =
format = <label-state>
label-active = " %name% "
label-active-foreground = ${colors.white}
label-active-background = ${colors.darkgray}
label-active-underline = ${colors.darkgray}

label-occupied = " %name% "
label-occupied-foreground = ${colors.white}
label-occupied-background = ${colors.background}
label-occupied-underline =  ${colors.background}

label-urgent = " %name% "
label-urgent-foreground = ${colors.white}
label-urgent-background = ${colors.urgent}
label-urgent-underline = ${colors.urgent}

label-empty = " %name% "
label-empty-foreground = ${colors.dimgray}
label-empty-background = ${colors.background}
label-empty-underline = ${colors.background}

If you cloned the git repo, you have cloned some scripts (they're in the docs folder). One will be layouts.sh that you can use to show the tiling layout in use. There are some others on the ArchLabs dk thread where I see you have posted.

You can get my dk configs from this site. The Toshiba and HP are laptops, the desktop will have dual monitor configurations.

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PackRat · 2022-07-11 14:57:58

sleekmason wrote:

I feel very odd indeed posting here these days. If there is something I can do to help the BL situation, I would be happy to do so.

PM @johnraff and volunteer.

sleekmason · 2022-07-11 15:16:31

PackRat wrote:

sleekmason wrote:
I feel very odd indeed posting here these days. If there is something I can do to help the BL situation, I would be happy to do so.
PM @johnraff and volunteer.

I already have. AND did.

Worked closely every day with John for weeks. Created a full theme setup for BL because at the time that was "the only thing keeping us from having a new release". Dragon.

Fact is, Bunsenlabs could release a build anytime they like, and then again and again every day if they wanted. The mystique that creating a build is hard to do is just that. Takes me about 15 minutes here with a shitty connection to build. Takes about 4 hours with my shitty connection to upload it. Sorry, but at this point there really is no excuse for not having 'beryllium' released. The idea that they can't just release a fixed version if there are still issues is silly. Of course they can. Same thing for the forum bit happening currently. "Can't build because the forum is . . . aw screw it." Of course they can.

I have loads of stuff that could be adapted to BL, and would love to share them . . WHEN I can copy a build to a usb stick for testing. This idea that we should just upgrade the existing build is nonsense, and doesn't work for anything other than a one time deal.

Al is right that there is no excuses for not having this done. We are well over a year since Bullseye has been available. Sorry, but truth is truth. And somehow, I don't think it is John holding things up, but no, I don't really know anything.

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sleekmason · 2022-07-11 15:18:56

PackRat wrote:

You can get my dk configs from this site. The Toshiba and HP are laptops, the desktop will have dual monitor configurations.

Cool! Thank you for sharing. Lots to do:)

PackRat · 2022-07-11 16:56:09

sleekmason wrote:

PackRat wrote:
You can get my dk configs from this site. The Toshiba and HP are laptops, the desktop will have dual monitor configurations.
Cool! Thank you for sharing. Lots to do:)

No problem.

You going to use sxhkd as the universal key grabber? Works fine with open/fluxbox etc ....
Not that there is anything wrong with xbindkeys; it works with dk.
Just thinking about redundancy and eliminating a package/config.

sleekmason · 2022-07-11 17:22:13

PackRat wrote:

You going to use sxhkd as the universal key grabber? Works fine with open/fluxbox etc ....
Not that there is anything wrong with xbindkeys; it works with dk.
Just thinking about redundancy and eliminating a package/config.

Yes! sxhkd is the default for dk in Lilidog. I'll probably remove xbindkeys next round. I wanted xbindkeys for the gui aspect, but it really is simple to configure the file, and the only folks that do are the ones who need it anyway, and probably already know how. It looks like I can specify different configs for different wm's also without issue.

The further I get with dk, the more I like using it. Already finding odds and ends I need to adjust. The tray and polybar seem to want to conflict a bit. (overlap)

Being able to have the jgmenu as a backup made the transition fairly easy:) whenever I feel stuck, I can mod4 + j and do what I need.

PackRat · 2022-07-11 18:00:28

sleekmason wrote:

The tray and polybar seem to want to conflict a bit. (overlap)

Are you running a separate systemtray? Polybar has a built in tray, but it can be wonky.

[Re]Start polybar from a terminal and it will show errors in configuration. Sometimes a deprecated setting can throw the tray off.

sleekmason · 2022-07-11 19:03:11

PackRat wrote:

sleekmason wrote:
The tray and polybar seem to want to conflict a bit. (overlap)
Are you running a separate systemtray? Polybar has a built in tray, but it can be wonky.
[Re]Start polybar from a terminal and it will show errors in configuration. Sometimes a deprecated setting can throw the tray off.

I just added a "nm-applet &" directly into the dkrc and it worked without issue, showing up as a tray icon on the far right in polybar.

Thank you for your links! Yeah, kind of a buggy issue. the tray faded out the time text a bit on the right side of the screen.

There was indeed a 'warn' issue for the systray being already initiated, but I never saw any issue until now . . . of course. lol.

I changed the order so polybar starts before nm-applet in the dkrc and so far that may have worked. Will check in a bit for any more errors. If not, it seems I have quite a few options on the table so at least not stuck. I welcome any further ideas as well if my instafix of the startup order doesn't work. Will find out shortly :)

Tint2 works in dk as well. In fact, it complements it nicely when "autoshrunk".

I also went ahead and made two toggles as well for polybar and tint2. ctrl + mod4 + P... and ctrl + mod4 + T for tint2. (only in github at the present.)

*EDIT - Yep! that was it. Changed the order to the obvious logical order and no more issues:)

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PackRat · 2022-07-11 19:14:12

sleekmason wrote:

Tint2 works in dk as well. In fact, it complements it nicely when "autoshrunk".

dk handles all the popular panels. It has good EWMH compliance like bspwm. It does not support "Iconify" though, so you will not have full functionality from tint2 (xfce4-panel etc ..) taskbar.

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sleekmason · 2022-07-11 20:04:07

PackRat wrote:

sleekmason wrote:
Tint2 works in dk as well. In fact, it complements it nicely when "autoshrunk".
dk handles all the popular panels. It has good EWMH compliance like bspwm. It does not support "Iconify" though, so you will not have full functionality from tint2 (xfce4-panel etc ..) taskbar.

I've been using xdotool to switch through the desktop number icons in openbox. With Tint2 In dk, they open the different menus I specified with the keybinds. smh. Guess I'll need to do something with both those icons and the 'winfuncs' icons for grouping and minimize options. Really, it could lose these and be fine. Just create keybinds for the 'winfuncs' options separately. (or not).

Some small changes, and I think I can get it to work well for both? we'll see.

*edit - Just realized I haven't felt the need to switch back to openbox for quite some time now. Pretty groovy.

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Martin · 2022-07-11 21:29:58

Never heard of dk window manager before.

/Martin

sleekmason · 2022-07-11 21:56:02

Martin wrote:

Never heard of dk window manager before.
/Martin

https://bitbucket.org/natemaia/dk/src/master/

It's easy enough to build dk by following the directions. I'm also updating Lilidog over night with the various fixes as described in the posts above. Nothing huge, just enough changes to make it worthwhile.
Should be labeled 22.07.11 when it uploads.

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johnraff · 2022-07-12 04:10:03

Didn't want to derail @sleekmason's thread, but I've commented on some of the issues raised here:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 30#p123130

Why there still isn't a Beryllium official release and how I'm not at all OK with the situation. But it can't be helped.

Also @sleekmason, your Dragon theme is beautiful and will of course be a feature of the release (and can be enjoyed right now just by upgrading the packages).

sleekmason · 2022-07-12 12:05:49

^ Thank you @johnraff.

Lilidog 22.07.11 released. https://sourceforge.net/projects/lilidog/

Super quick turn around to fix one error, and add a few items to make life easier in dk.

Adjusted startup order in dk to start the panel first over nm-applet. Caused an overlap.
Created a polybar on/off toggle for dk - ctrl mod4 + p
Added the tint2 toggle and adjusted the script to include nm-applet. ctrl mod4 + t
Best to toggle off one before initiating the other or you will lose your tray icons. I may make a direct toggle between the two at some point as well.
Removed the 'number' icons 1-4 in the tint2 panel. Redundant, and useless as they don't show any info.
Added and adjusted several keybinds in dk to a more usable state.
Removed the i3-gaps installer for now. - After gaining just a little more experience with these smaller wm's, I noticed some buggy behavior from i3-gaps. May add it back in the future.

That's all really. The next release will probably be in a few weeks unless there are issues that need to be addressed. I just saw no reason not to put these in now for a better experience, and no sweat to do so.

PackRat · 2022-07-12 15:00:19

sleekmason wrote:

Removed the i3-gaps installer for now. - After gaining just a little more experience with these smaller wm's, I noticed some buggy behavior from i3-gaps. May add it back in the future.

Have you tried regular i3 window manager? That's my daily driver; you can get a look at the configs from that git link I sent earlier. Personally never understood the ned for gaps in i3 (tabbed window manager not tiling). This is what I'm typically looking at on any given day; tabbed windows and one container with 2-3 xterms:

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sleekmason · 2022-07-12 17:07:11

PackRat wrote:

sleekmason wrote:
Removed the i3-gaps installer for now. - After gaining just a little more experience with these smaller wm's, I noticed some buggy behavior from i3-gaps. May add it back in the future.
Have you tried regular i3 window manager? That's my daily driver; you can get a look at the configs from that git link I sent earlier. Personally never understood the ned for gaps in i3 (tabbed window manager not tiling). This is what I'm typically looking at on any given day; tabbed windows and one container with 2-3 xterms:
https://i.postimg.cc/crYqZLj6/2022-07-12-10-51-30.png

Not since my eyes have been opened to these little wm's. I got a hold of the i3-gaps version and thought it was just neat to be able to control such a feature. Not at all against checking out the 'ungapped' version. Sounds like a good idea. I already have a basic config for it as the 'gaps' section is just added to the regular config.

The gapped version was showing a waiting symbol on the desktop at times after selecting a program, and it would remain for an extended period even if the program was killed. This, with no real pattern to occurrence. Couldn't figure it, so thought better to remove it.

All of your work is nicely laid out. Easy on the eyes. Good stuff.

PackRat · 2022-07-12 18:36:16

Been tinkering with your lilidog-minimal.
Nice work.

sleekmason · 2022-07-12 19:10:38

PackRat wrote:

Been tinkering with your lilidog-minimal.
Nice work.

Thank you!:)

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