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#1 2021-08-08 17:17:23

Sector11
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Firefox vs Palemoon

I like Palemoon, I want to keep it BUT:

 08 Aug 21 @ 14:07:50 ~
   $ sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[sudo] password for sector11: 
There are 3 choices for the alternative x-www-browser (providing /usr/bin/x-www-browser).

  Selection    Path                  Priority   Status
------------------------------------------------------------
* 0            /usr/bin/firefox-esr   70        auto mode
  1            /usr/bin/firefox-esr   70        manual mode
  2            /usr/bin/midori        50        manual mode
  3            /usr/bin/palemoon      40        manual mode

Press <enter> to keep the current choice[*], or type selection number: 
 
 08 Aug 21 @ 14:08:04 ~
   $ 

despite setting firefox-esr as by default browser, Palemoon keeps popping up.

Anyone know how to eliminate this behaviour?

Even if I set 'midori' as the default: palemoon takes control!


If not Palemoon bites the dust.


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#2 2021-08-08 18:51:49

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Re: Firefox vs Palemoon

Popping up where? Taking control of what?


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#3 2021-08-08 20:00:07

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Re: Firefox vs Palemoon

You made a shortcut or .desktop file for it somewhere?


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#4 2021-08-08 22:51:50

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Re: Firefox vs Palemoon

I guess that firefox is started if you in terminal give command "x-www-browser".
The command on the jgmenu for starting a browser is: "x-www-browser". So your settings is ok.

But, other gui applications like thunderbird or pcmanfm, might be configured differently.
Most file-managers can be configured to open a file with certain extension with acertain application and remeber that choise.
For configuring thunderbird, see https://askubuntu.com/questions/130158/ … n-chromium


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#5 2021-08-09 16:14:48

Sector11
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Re: Firefox vs Palemoon

ohnonot wrote:

Popping up where? Taking control of what?

Popping up where I do NOT want it, I want Firefox

DeepDayze wrote:

You made a shortcut or .desktop file for it somewhere?

No never!

rbh wrote:

I guess that firefox is started if you in terminal give command "x-www-browser".
The command on the jgmenu for starting a browser is: "x-www-browser". So your settings is ok.

I do not use jgmenu - Pure Debian 10 via Sharpbang - see sig.

Never thought of that as I don't use "x-www-anything" at all.
-> However Firefox starts up even though in PaleMoon says it is the default browser.

But, other gui applications like thunderbird or pcmanfm, might be configured differently.
Most file-managers can be configured to open a file with certain extension with acertain application and remeber that choise.
For configuring thunderbird, see https://askubuntu.com/questions/130158/ … n-chromium

AHA!!!  After some testing T-bird is the culprit, links in there open Palemoon.
I will check and report back.

There is says in part:

Click Edit > then click Preferences >, a new window will open. You will need to select the Advanced tab, at the bottom of that tab Open the Config Editor.

Then, search for both network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http and network.protocol-handler.warn-external.https.

These two are most likely to have a current value of false. Change the value to true

Changed to "true"

I also found:
network.protocol-handler.app.http = x-www.browser
network.protocol-handler.app.https = x-www.browser

Left those as is and restarted T-bird - it still starts Palemoon

Changed:
network.protocol-handler.app.http = firefox
network.protocol-handler.app.https = firefox

Restarted T-bird - it still starts Palemoon

So I did a search for any .desktop files

find: ‘*.desktop’: No such file or directory
root@sector11:~# 

But there it is:

/home/sector11/.local/share/xfce4/helpers/custom-FileManager.desktop
/home/sector11/.local/share/applications/XXX.userapp-Pale Moon-OQIE6Y.desktop
/home/sector11/.local/share/applications/root-terminal.desktop

so I renamed it

Now lets see!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR  Palemoon!

Time for a REBOOT!


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#6 2021-08-09 16:58:56

Sector11
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Re: Firefox vs Palemoon

Restart did not work.

Reboot did not work.

"Deleted" the renamed desktop file - did not work!

But I found the culprit right here:

/home/sector11/.moonchild productions/pale moon/profiles.ini

[General]
StartWithLastProfile=1

[Profile0]
Name=default
IsRelative=1
Path=pfth2lgg.default
Default=1

and changed that final:

Default=1

to

Default=0

I should ditch it out of spite, a program should respect the system settings.

I have put T-Birds setting back to their defaults and all is well.
Palemoon was saying it was my defauly browser, well no longer.

The difference between a 1 and a 0.


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#7 2021-08-09 18:16:03

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Re: Firefox vs Palemoon

Did you open PaleMoon itself to change the setting to not make it default browser? I agree that any program should respect system settings.

Firefox and Chromium do seem to accept system settings better.


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#8 2021-08-10 19:07:58

Sector11
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Re: Firefox vs Palemoon

DeepDayze wrote:

Did you open PaleMoon itself to change the setting to not make it default browser? I agree that any program should respect system settings.

Firefox and Chromium do seem to accept system settings better.

No, Palemoon, does not have a setting to make itself not the default browser.
I just changed the 1 to a 0 in the .ini file and it worked


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