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#1 2021-06-27 23:36:11

mapdaver
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Lithium amd64...iso CD menu BLANK; hit ENTER = Live session starts?

Lenovo z570  (new to me, don't know its history; currently ubuntu 21.04)

downloaded both 64 & 32 builds ( yes I did the checksum )

first I tried both builds on thumb drive:
64 did NOT render menu, so I thought download was bad.
32 menu did display menu but I did not want to install 32.

I thought the 64 build  was right for my ideapad so
I burned a DVD on this ubuntu box 

when I tried to boot 64dvd the screen STAYED blank
but having watched the 32 build menu I observed that the
cursor highlighted the 'LIVE'  session so I took a chance , hit ENTER
and it started & booted.

I'm familiar with OpenBox from #! and BL.
poked around looking for log files in /var/logs -
but the error happens BEFORE boot happens so nothing about my problem was written,



Also note I tested thumb drive and dvd builds in two other machines to verify the downloads:
Dell 2100 & old Acer  with Sempron chip: both have Bunsenlab installed
and both startup Menus were displayed.

so my question is : Is there a way to look for errors messages earlier in the startup sequence?

what is the VERY first code executed  at boot time?
Is there someplace to insert test messages?
Can I modify the font characteristics; Color, Size, background color?
maybe its displaying Black on Black ?

Could there be something wrong with my laptop ?

and most important what If I started to install and could not see anything instruction text during the install sequence ?
 
What other info should I post?

Thanks.

mapdaver

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#2 2021-06-28 22:57:09

rbh
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Re: Lithium amd64...iso CD menu BLANK; hit ENTER = Live session starts?

mapdaver wrote:

Lenovo z570  (new to me, don't know its history; currently ubuntu 21.04)

So, the notebook is running Ubuntu without trouble?


first I tried both builds on thumb drive:
64 did NOT render menu, so I thought download was bad.
32 menu did display menu but I did not want to install 32.

It did not show the Grub menu when booting the 64 bit iso? I think that if you can see the Grub-menu when booting the 32-bit iso, you ought to see the grub-menu when booting the 64-bit iso...

I thought the 64 build  was right for my ideapad so
I burned a DVD on this ubuntu box

You can boot an 32-bit pae kernel on 64bit cpu.With pae-kernel, you should be ableto use yor 8 GB, your motherboard support.
We have at least one user in the forum who prefer32 bit kernel on old 64 bit machines...

what is the VERY first code executed  at boot time?
Is there someplace to insert test messages?
Can I modify the font characteristics; Color, Size, background color?
maybe its displaying Black on Black ?

No, you can not change the look of the Grub boot menu, exept if you alter the iso.

Could there be something wrong with my laptop ?

If it runs Ubuntu and someone installed it, it seems that the pc works... Can you boot and run Debian unofficial live iso with firmware?

In the Linux Hardware database, there is 11 computers registered, none with Debian installed... There is  registered some different models of the IdeaPad z570.

From the "Guide to getting help"Terminal tools like "inxi -Fxrzm" [...] give usefull information of your hardware."

If you enter your serial nr on Lenovo page https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/se/en/prod … apad-z570/, you will get more details of your hardware. I recomend you to register the pc even if there is no factory warranty left.

and most important what If I started to install and could not see anything instruction text during the install sequence ?

Working in the dark, seems a bad solution...
If you could boot Debian unofficial live iso, then boot Debian unofficial iso with firmware, install no X, just a bare cli system. You can then run the Bunsen-netinstall skript.

Last edited by rbh (2021-06-28 23:29:06)


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#3 2021-07-06 17:23:50

mapdaver
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Re: Lithium amd64...iso CD menu BLANK; hit ENTER = Live session starts?

Sorry for long delay. I am on 'sneaker net' !

You asked:
Can you boot and run Debian unofficial live iso with firmware?
   I downloaded & ran successfully the Gnome version build:
    debian-live-10.10.0-amd64-gnome+nonfree.iso

In researching Lenovo I found there is a BIOS patch which I do not know how to install bcz I do not have any winDoze machines or much experience except early 8 bit dos.

YOU wrote:
If you could boot Debian unofficial live iso, then boot Debian unofficial iso with firmware, install no X, just a bare cli system. You can then run the Bunsen-netinstall skript.

  I will try this when I get some free time.
  Thanks.

How do I closes this 'ticket'?

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#4 2021-07-06 18:00:23

rbh
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Re: Lithium amd64...iso CD menu BLANK; hit ENTER = Live session starts?

mapdaver wrote:

I found there is a BIOS patch which I do not know how to install bcz I do not have any winDoze machines or much experience except early 8 bit dos.

You can use Windows PE. This is one link: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Flashi … from_Linux, search for heading: "Using a Windows PE".

How do I closes this 'ticket'?

From "Guide to getting help"
"When a solution is found, mark your thread as solved. Edit your first post in the thread, add [SOLVED] before the title. "

Last edited by rbh (2021-07-06 18:00:58)


// Regards rbh

Please read before requesting help: Guide to getting help,
Introduction to the Bunsenlabs Lithium Desktop and other help topics under "Help Resources" on the BunsenLabs menu

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