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#3776 2021-05-02 05:21:19

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

I pay here in NZ for 10gb of 4g Data, unlimited calls and texts to Aussie, $35.  So expensive.  When I was in Aussie in 2019, for $20 I have something like 40gb of data and unlimited calls and texts to NZ - AUS.


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#3777 2021-05-02 10:09:18

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hhh wrote:
ohnonot wrote:

^ sounds like a typical prepaid arrangement - wouldn't things be better with a proper contract?

No, always a catch with a contract from a corporation.

Indeed there are. There are some post-paid options with certain MVNOs that could be an option, but nothing that could push me to seal the deal.

There are no significantly discounted handsets for example in Germany. Doesn't matter how expensive the contract is, if you get an iPhone for €1000 with it, you'll almost certainly pay up €1000 over the months to pay for it. No such thing here like choosing that €70/month plan with 100G data, but here's your iPhone at 25% the full price.

Contracts are mostly of advantage internationally. For example, if you travel to non-EU country like China, Korea, Japan, Australia, the US, the expensive contract will likely include roaming options that are not too hard on your wallet. Roaming with prepaid plans is like throwing €1 coins outta window for every megabyte of  data (!) you pull from the foreign network. Which is why, when I'm abroad, I get a pocket wifi or something.


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#3778 2021-05-02 19:48:34

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^ OK, the mobile telephony/broadband market is really entirely different around here.
Usually it's buy your own phone, you only make a contract for the SIM card, i.e. telephony/broadband.
It's usually some sort of packet: say, unlimited phonecalls and SMS + 1Mbit broadband flatrate for 25€/month - the same with 150Mbit: 35€/month etc.
Rarer is it to actually still pay for each minute or SMS - I do because it comes cheaper for me.
See e.g. here.

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#3779 2021-05-02 22:28:16

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jeffreyC wrote:

You got nothing extra with the contract except a bill $60 higher, and an early cancellation fee if you wanted to switch to a better offer.

A huge fee, with Comcast it's usually the price of the original contract, so $200.

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#3780 2021-05-03 08:28:04

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Maybe my dumb self is missing something very obvious here. If that's the case, call me out and I'll gladly apologise. Until then, here be a [rant];

I feel we've reached Mariana Trench saturation diver levels for the "how low an app can go" awards;
https://www.mightyapp.com/

Instead of your own computer interacting with the web, you stream a remote Chrome session that lives on someone else's, for friggin $30/month?!?! If you think the idea alone is enough to make you wince, just read the cringe-fest marketing alphabet soup on that product website. 

So you're basically doubling your privacy egress and security ingress surfaces, all while still bottle-necked by your ISP's own throttling/routing/peering issues. Also, when did streaming an interactive FHD/4K video (because that's essentially what you're doing, streaming a video of a cloud browser session) become less intensive than rendering images and javascript? Browsers support GPU acceleration for javascript, right? Yes, I know WebGL is a potential security risk, but compare that to doing all your shit on a cloud rig.... \O_o?

Seriously, anyone that can justify the $30/month asking price for this nonsense can easily justify simply getting a faster computer and switching ISP. Heck, you're probably affluent enough to move to a town/city/country with better ISP in that case anyway. How out of touch does a cushy overpaid Silicon Valley techbro have to be to come up with Rube Goldberg stuff like this? Pay for this and you're a chump. A.FUCKING.CHUMP!!

Heck, even those gaming-PC-in-the-cloud plans are cheaper, and arguably a lot more sensible. Rent a cloud-PC for gaming because you have no intention of building a dudebro neon radiator at home and wrestle with GPU drivers or anti-cheat DRM rootkit pestilence on your bare-metal? I don't game much, but I totally feel you. Renting a bloody browser session?! That's some potent bat soup you're drinking, brother!!

I ain't even remotely religious, but Jesus Fucking Wept, man!! If this succeeds, we might as well embrace Skynet-induced extinction.

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EdiT;
Just to be clear, I'm not opposed to the idea of a paid browser. Would gladly pay for a browser that did what I wanted it to do; no phoning home, good security, granular content blocking, fingerprint/timezone/agent/header spoofing, sensible layout, etc. Just the other day I was telling myself I'd pay ten bucks a year for a browser like that on mobile. But this just feels like these moppets intercepted my thoughts, do the exact opposite of what I'm asking and charge 30 times more for it.

Sorry for the venting. I'm actually a thoroughly agreeable fellow in real life. So agreeable you'd agree to never have anything to do with me again.

Ugh, even the weather is terrible today. Sweltering and not even a cloud in the sky for me to yell at.

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#3781 2021-05-03 13:37:03

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Aaaand I am thoroughly entertained. Savage and brilliant. But you need some relaxation, I think.

Head for the airport, it looks... surreal?

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#3782 2021-05-03 13:43:32

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By the way, just yell at the sky regardless the cloudiness. It's what I do.

YOU HEAR ME, SUNSHINE???? I"M TALKING TO YOU!!!!! ENOUGH WITH THE LIGHT AND THE HEAT!!!!! PETER GABRIEL WAS WRONG!!!!!!

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#3783 2021-05-04 05:17:03

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glittersloth wrote:

https://www.mightyapp.com/
Instead of your own computer interacting with the web, you stream a remote Chrome session

Haven't similar things already been happening for ages?

  • I believe Opera's Turbo mode was the first:
    Opera Turbo, a mode which uses Opera's servers as proxy servers with data compression, reducing volume of data transferred by up to 80% (depending upon content), and thus increasing speed, was introduced.
    but has been copied by many since.

  • Google AMP

  • All those browser-builtin VPN's

  • Every SAAS application basically

I have looked at the website and noticed the target group - web developers mostly, yeah?
The type of people that really need a browser for work, that use multiple browser-based applications at the same time, and are usually completely caught and lost in the current Googleplex/Chromesphere. The sort of people that really literally cannot live without Google...

Did you know there's a 3rd-party frontend to GoogleMail that actually received praise in a dedicated episode of a well-respected kinda Linuxy podcast?


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#3784 2021-05-04 05:50:46

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I have Opera Mini installed on my Nokia 700.

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#3785 2021-05-04 06:28:29

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^ and, is Turbo still a thing? Since it has to be provided by some Opera servers, it's not enough if the browser supports it.


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#3786 2021-05-05 04:59:59

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There are two difficult problems in computing: naming things, cache invalidation, and off-by-one errors.


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#3787 2021-05-05 05:53:33

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ohnonot wrote:

^ and, is Turbo still a thing? Since it has to be provided by some Opera servers, it's not enough if the browser supports it.

I don't know about Turbo but I amused myself yesterday evening by some Opera Mini surfing on my Nokia 700 and it still works. It is no joy as most sites nowadays are too complex for the filtering to do them justice and the 700 has a 3.something screen. But it works.

/Martin


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#3788 2021-05-10 17:19:31

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Got my first jab today, praise be!

No pain in the arm (OK, a very slight pain when pressing the injection point), no fever or weakness or dizziness, nothing.

Unfortunately nothing is going to change in my life until I get the second jab, or so the medic told me.


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#3789 2021-05-10 19:04:52

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Yesterday morning in my case. Slight pain in whatever that muscle is called in English. Second jab is six to 15 weeks from now.

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#3790 2021-05-10 20:33:07

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And I just got trash to the head. Some hillbilly idiot decided to dump it from one of the top floors.
Damn, looks like a half-eaten sandwich.

I wanted to write something else but forgot and can't remember now.

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#3791 Yesterday 05:06:08

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My only post tonight, I'm on a 2 week hiatus.

My experience with the Pfizer 2-shotter. First shot, maybe some muscle soreness the next day? Hard to tell, but my muscles certainly weren't less sore the next morning (shoulders especially).

Second shot a month later, Holy Strychnine Shot to the arm, Batman! I woke up and sat in a chair rocking back and forth and groaning for 2 hours, I kid you not. Stiff shoulders to the max, sore arm, swollen and hot at the injection site, slightly nauseous. One of the most uncomfortable days since I separated my flipping shoulder, it was that bad.

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#3792 Yesterday 20:34:03

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^The wings and horns will grow later. :-D


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