HOW-TO set up an experimental BL Beryllium system on Bullseye.

johnraff · 2021-04-19 07:47:23

^Geany is geany. It's not missing anything. There is a wide variety of geany plugins available in the Debian repositories which those who need them can easily install, but even without any plugins Geany is a very useful text editor with far more functions than mousepad etc.

Your issue with 'make: not found' is nothing to do with Geany - you need to install the package providing the missing command 'make', which in this case is the package "make".

The reason BL does not come with make preinstalled is that only a subset of users will need it, and they can very easily install it themselves.

bunsencub · 2021-04-19 08:43:23

johnraff wrote:

...you need to install the package providing the missing command 'make', which in this case is the package "make"...

Thank you, of course I had done this already. Did it again, same result, still error, different message:

make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.

So, it is bye-bye to Geany, Idle will have to do

Still, sorry for having a chip on my shoulder today, why break a butterfly on the wheel with Geany as text editor? Breaking Geany's "bones" such as "powerful, stable and lightweight programmer's text editor", "built-in support for more than 50 programming languages"?

bunsencub · 2021-04-19 09:46:37

SOLUTION: Very simple but beyond my comprehension: open Geany with sudo

$ sudo geany

or

$ sudo bl-text-editor

Then I get the "real" Geany with its own proper menu as it should be. And Geany runs py-programs like a wizard

However, I find this root thing a little awkward. How can I run geany as a normal user but with its proper appearance and functions like with root, please?

bunsencub · 2021-04-19 13:50:14

bunsencub wrote:

...
Then I get the "real" Geany with its own proper menu as it should be...

To clarify this point (sorry for being so obstinate):

* Geany without sudo: only one menu based on top, just text choices, r.g., "Build".

* Geany with sudo: the "real" Geany menu with colored icon buttons below the above text menu. These choices build and execute properly, the text menu "Build" in the top line does not!

If I only knew how to run Geany as normal user and not as root and get the same iconified menu!

EDIT:

johnraff wrote:

The reason BL does not come with make preinstalled is that only a subset of users will need it...

There is no need neither to preinstall nor postinstall it, I remove "make" and it is just not necessary for "root" Geany to handle python scripts.

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rbh · 2021-04-20 01:25:35

Rename ~/.config/geany to ..geany and start geany again. if you don't get yor desired setting, rm the new created ..geany directory and copy roots geny. Make sure to change ownership of the files.

bunsencub · 2021-04-20 05:37:47

Thank you very much, rbh, works fine, see https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=7543

rbh · 2021-04-20 10:03:22

bunsencub wrote:

Thank you very much, rbh, works fine, see https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=7543

I must comment, I think you were quite rude not to obey polite note to move your help request to proper forum.

hhh · 2021-04-21 05:14:40

rbh wrote:

bunsencub wrote:
Thank you very much, rbh, works fine, see https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=7543
I must comment, I think you were quite rude not to obey polite note to move your help request to proper forum.

@rbh, let's not go there. @bunsencub came around, let's move on.

bunsencub · 2021-04-21 08:12:06

rbh wrote:

bunsencub wrote:
Thank you very much, rbh, works fine, see https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=7543
I must comment, I think you were quite rude not to obey polite note to move your help request to proper forum.

I thought I was enough a blabbermouth with my geany issue in this thread and didn't want to be too verbose. No rudeness intended, sorry 8.(
Let the discussion about the experimental BL go on, as hhh rightfully suggests.

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hhh · 2021-04-23 00:26:59

^ Thank you, gentle persons. < Getting all PC there with the gender neutral thing.

Gotta move with the times. Also, arrow pointy keyboard things!

plemil · 2021-06-11 23:10:00

As I got my new SSD last week, I spent some time during the weekend reinstalling my Helium box,
HP ZBook G2 (Intel i7-4810MQ (8) @ 3.800GHz, NVIDIA Quadro K2100M, 32G Ram). Did a bare metal install
with the non-free option. All went as expected until my router decided it where a perfect time to reboot...
Apart from that everything proceded without hickups. This until the first boot up of the system, then I ended
with no working network, neither WiFi or with cabel. Did try some stuff mentioned in this tread but to no
avail. After some digging I found this:

Fix for not network after installing without desktop

that looked promissing. As I had already rebooted I booted once more from the install media and did
choose the Repair option. When I got to a terminal interface I did run a :

apt install network-manager

and after that when trough I probably did a

sudo apt-get update

aswell (frankly do not remember...)

Powered down and rebooted to Bunsen again and now I had a functioning network access.
Thought I should mention this if someone else run in to this issue, don't know if this is related
to the bare metal install, but it might maybe help someone else.

Up and running for some days now, trying to get the grips of jgmenu and what not. I do have one
box with a Lithium installed but I usually end up using this machine running Helium. Must confess I
really do like the teaming in Helium.
Good work from the Bunsen team as usual, really looking forward to the final Beryllium.

dhalgren · 2021-06-13 02:51:20

Has anyone tried a dist-upgrade to Beryllium?
Are there any known issues to that type of upgrade (other than the usual "it may break a working programme because ..." )

I ask because, prior to BL, I always did a dist-upgrade on Ubuntu and Crunchbang, without issue.

johnraff · 2021-06-13 05:19:29

^The Beryllium packages aren't yet in their final state, so a dist-upgrade right now, while giving you an idea if something is going to break or not, will otherwise be pretty much like Lithium.

dhalgren · 2021-06-13 08:56:24

@johnraff. That sounds fair enough. I don't think I am up to playing with broken packages at the moment, so I will leave it until closer to the release, then give it a go. Thanks.

rbh · 2021-06-13 12:26:29

I have upgraded a couple of machines, the last yesterday, wihtout encountering any broken packages/dependencies or other hassles

johnraff · 2021-06-14 01:19:01

dhalgren wrote:

I don't think I am up to playing with broken packages at the moment, so I will leave it until closer to the release, then give it a go. Thanks.

I didn't mean to suggest that the Beryllium packages are broken - they are mostly pretty similar to Lithium atm - but that some of them might go through some changes before the final release, so dist-upgrading right now won't tell you much about changes to the Beryllium user interface. Under-the-hood issues, if any, should be visible right now though. I don't think there are likely to be many problems...

dhalgren · 2021-06-14 03:58:56

Ah, no worries. I didn't really think you were suggesting that there would be problems; it was more a statement of caution on my part, based on feeling less than well at the moment.

I will do a dist-upgrade in the near future, but will wait until I am feeling much better, was what I meant to suggest.

manyroads · 2021-09-23 15:55:17

FWIW: I followed the BL instructions for Beryllium update here (https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=7356) and installed it with MXLinux 21 beta2 rather than Debian Bullseye. Everything seems to work fine on my test machine. There are just a few items you ought to be aware of if you want to try this.

1. Setup MXLinux 21 b2 to run systemd as your default. This is to minimize any systemd dependencies that BL might have. I am assuming you don't want to fight those; I don't.
2. You do NOT need to add the Bullseye repo to MX21; it is setup with your original install.
3. Follow the rest of the BL instructions and things should work fine.

Remember, like with all of my work, I am able to provide the following assurance(s):
It is almost certainly going to work until it breaks; although I have to admit it may never work and that would be sad.
When/if it does break, you may keep all of the pieces.
If you find my materials helpful, both you & I will be happy, at least for a little while.
My advice is worth every penny you paid for it!

anyone27 · 2021-10-06 08:33:43

Is anybody else getting a "403 Forbidden" error from the kelaino.bunsenlabs repository for Beryllium? "The repository ... is not signed."

dolly · 2021-10-06 10:17:38

Yes, I saw it a couple of days ago, but have not retried since then. Have not seen any news here about it either, but just might be that I have overlooked something.

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