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I didn't get along so well with openSUSE. I'm back to Arch Linux, now.
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I didn't get along so well with openSUSE. I'm back to Arch Linux, now.
Yes, those "open" relationships can be rough.
Debian 12 Beardog, SoxDog and still a Conky 1.9er
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Mabox Linux (Manjaro Openbox, based on BunsenLabs...)
No, he can't sleep on the floor. What do you think I'm yelling for?!!!
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DeepDayze wrote:I am so tempted to try a Devuan base and using the BL netinstall script to see if I can whip up a systemd-less BL
The Lithium netinstall script now works.
It's supposed to be modular and easy to customize, but apart from its original use with CrunchBang that's never been tested, so I'd be happy to try to help if you want to tweak it to install something other than Lithium BL.
Sounds good. When I got some time may try it in a VM.
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Ok. openSUSE was a software fiasco. The main OS was very nice, but I just could not get the application software I want. As an example, Pulse Effects is two versions behind. They said they could not upgrade it because two other pieces of software have to be upgraded before they can. But Arch Linux has all the correct components together.
So, I'm happy to be back on Arch Linux with the awesome wm.
PS - Sorry. I didn't know I had already posted about this.
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@ ratcheer
No sorry needed, here you explained a bit more. And that's worth the second post.
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Debian 12 Beardog, SoxDog and still a Conky 1.9er
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Runs stable, as usual from siduction with daily updates. Thanks to Norbert Preining it is the most current Debian.
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https://i.imgur.com/9t4kK61t.png https://i.imgur.com/uXWycRht.png https://i.imgur.com/WE8DHqBt.png
Now that makes me want to try KDE/Plasma again
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unklar wrote:Runs stable, as usual from siduction with daily updates. Thanks to Norbert Preining it is the most current Debian.
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https://i.imgur.com/9t4kK61t.png https://i.imgur.com/uXWycRht.png https://i.imgur.com/WE8DHqBt.png
Now that makes me want to try KDE/Plasma again
Here you go! https://isobuilds.siduction.org/
1. after the installation, update the system
2. insert the repo from Norbert Preining and select unstable(!)
3. update the system again
Have fun! ]:D
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Also one could try KaOS for the freshest Plasma.
KaOS is an independent distribution focused on Qt and KDE. KaOS follows the latest innovations, always shipping the most up to date there is available for the Plasma Desktop.
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^That is correct.
I myself have used KaOS 2015/2016.
A small/fine KDE/Plasma Distripution with the latest plasma developments.
Compared to Debian there is only one limitation and that are the relatively few packages from 2 to 3500 packages (debian offers ~30.000 packages). For those who can cope with this limited number of packages, KaOS is an alternative.
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^ Another drawback for KaOS is having mostly a single developer. Single point of failure. demm's a great guy, and the distro has been stable for years, to it's credit.
KaOS is a good choice for someone looking to check out KDE/Plasma. (where this thread was headed) The whole project is a class act. Website documentation is well done with very easy to read pages, easy to find what one is looking for.
The project's goal is KDE Plasma for the desktop and Qt for the Toolkit. In the case of web-browsers for example, the Qt options do not stack up to their GTK counterparts. For those instances, GTK applications are available. Inkscape, Ardour, and many other GTK packages are also available. There is the KCP, KaOS user maintained set of files to easily build extra packages. Kinda like the AUR for Arch.
Another good distro to taste KDE/Plasma is KDE Neon. Fresh Plasma on a Ubuntu base. The latest and greatest of KDE community software packaged on a rock-solid base.
Manjaro KDE/Plasma gets an honorable mention as well; for the ARCH lovers in the audience.
For those who are okay with a little more risk, the Siduction/Norbert Preining repo Plasma setup you suggested is The Shitz.
Debian will always be my home distro.
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"Problems worthy of attack
prove their worth by hitting back."
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^ Yes, the lack of non-free firmware was an issue for my AMD Radeon HD5450, which is a card automatically supported by a large percentage (90%?) of distros.
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^^ Most are outdated, some links are dead.
I truly hope there's more current distros fitting the requirements.
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Yes, I noticed some, but not all, are very dated, like not up-dated since 2011.
/Martin
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prove their worth by hitting back."
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Just came back from a few months with Alpine Linux.
Radical change with Debian but it's a really nice minimal distro.
Musl libc is lightweight and seems to be able to run nearly every linux softwares.
SystemD is out and OpenRC is in. I'm no technical but it's a bit harder to use...
The trip was really nice but with a new home, a full-time job, a new kitten and lots of books and records waiting to be loved, I don't have time to fiddle with my OS anymore (at least at a higher level).
So back to Debian and Bunsenlabs
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^ Any reason for not dual-booting? Convenience?
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Don't get me started on all the legacy parts in Windows that are in blinding-white because they are unchanged since WinNT4 (looking at you, compmgmt.msc snapin).
According to my son, who plays a lot of games, many of the legacy parts in Win10 are there for games, and some of them need to be turned on (somehow) in order to play legacy games; others need to be installed, e.g., in order to play Fable 3 one needs to install "games for windows live" which is a legacy program that enables the use of other legacy files which already are on Win10, which are needed in order to run the game.
Son says "Complaining about legacy files on Windows is like complaining about people on earth; they are everywhere." And (apparently) many of them are needed in order to make the current version of windows run. (There's that billion dollar engineering you mentioned.)
I remember when I upgraded Windows 98 to Millennium. It ran perfectly, but one of my mates did a fresh install of Millennium, and it had more problems than could be mentioned. Son, when changing from Windows 7 to Windows 10, upgraded also, and it ran well. The suspicion is that the legacy files needed to make it run perfectly remained after the upgrade. (I am NOT recommending this as a fix for your problems, because: it is Windows.)
I haven't use Windows consistently since 1999, but one thing I do know is that Windows 10 upgrades (which are almost impossible to turn off) frequently cause major problems with Windows 10. A search for "Windows 10 update issues" will be informative, and should be done regularly if you decide to use it.
I can still hear the echoes of my son's screams from the last time he updated and had to spend days getting it all to work properly again. (Basically, this happened with every update, and continued until he did some registry editing and forced the updating to stop. This is, apparently, a common fix for Windows updates. It also is the only way to turn off Cortana, which many people hate with a passion.)
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My dream setup would be a tower with like 3 high-spec GPUs but I'm too fiscally responsible..
Lol, fantastic. So 3 GPUs, each running via their own virtual OS of any type (Windows, Linux, BSD, Android, even Apple?), all three simultaneously under Windows? It would be a fun build, though I imagine tough to solve the heat/fan-noise issue. Put the tower in a vented, noise-dampened cabinet, I guess. Or submerged in liquid for a total monster.
I hope your whole post will be the most technical description I'll read all month, it's perfect.
If I ever have a hip-hop group, I'm naming it "glamor X acceleration!"
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