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#51 2020-06-11 00:51:24

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

DeepDayze wrote:

Hopefully there will be a new clipboard manager that just works (TM) down the road once Clipit is retired from Debian.

Right now I'm using xfce4-clipman with no issues, but I haven't lbeen using keybinds. @Naik, give that a try?


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#52 2020-06-11 10:00:42

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

Hi, having trouble installing cups

david@debian:~$ sudo apt install cups
[sudo] password for david: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package cups is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'cups' has no installation candidate
david@debian:~$ 

Also get similar response when running BL printer support script.
Where to look for the issue? Thanks.

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#53 2020-06-11 10:16:13

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

dbvolvox wrote:

Hi, having trouble installing cups

[..] 
Reading package lists... Done
[..]

Also get similar response when running BL printer support script.
Where to look for the issue? Thanks.

Cups is a debian package. Availible in all Debian repo

Apt reads your sources.list but can not find package. So you must have some error in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
More about souce list on https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList

Edit:
BTW: Supportquestions like that is better posted in Basic Help & Support

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#54 2020-06-11 13:56:14

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

rbh wrote:

Cups is a debian package. Availible in all Debian repo

Apt reads your sources.list but can not find package. So you must have some error in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
More about souce list on https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList

Edit:
BTW: Supportquestions like that is better posted in Basic Help & Support

Posted here as a fresh install, the missing source was the most important!!!
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster main

Not sure how this couldn't have been set during install.

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#55 2020-06-11 15:56:59

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

ovum wrote:

will i be able to upgrade my helium release to lithium, or will it require a fresh new install?  to those that have used both, is there any real reason for the upgrade?

I suspect we'll see instructions about this in near future once the new version is shown to have most little troubles all figured out.  With also discussion of pros and cons of staying with what you have and what you might get.  This is one of the joys of community.

My general view is that if you have a machine you need to use for work or essential tasks, wait to upgrade.  If you have a computer to play on, use that to try new things, and then contribute to the discussion.  This is another one of the joys of community.


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#56 2020-06-11 22:36:44

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

Dang! I have waited for the Debian Buster version of BunsenLabs to come out, and it finally has (in a pre-release kind of fashion lol). Good job, team!

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#57 2020-06-12 04:50:51

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

@MsMattie and @eight.bit.al I've moved the network issue to its own thread, here: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=6745
Anyone who might be able to help, please join in!

@dbvolvox I haven't been able to duplicate your missing-apt-source issue. Anyone else?


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#58 2020-06-12 10:56:56

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

johnraff wrote:

@dbvolvox I haven't been able to duplicate your missing-apt-source issue. Anyone else?

Yes, it was weird, as I did have the backports!

Brilliant work by the way.  Lithium is way faster and two other benefits are greater battery life and the wifi works very well whereas with Helium it only worked if I held the laptop near the router!

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#59 2020-06-13 04:17:17

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^That's all credit to the Debian devs in fact. smile


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#60 2020-06-13 04:33:56

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johnraff wrote:

^That's all credit to the Debian devs in fact. smile

I was going to state the same. Buster has some major improvements under-the-hood, and I think it's starting to get out of its "stable is old and boring" image.

Debian Stable is rock-steady and current enough for my needs.

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#61 2020-06-14 03:47:46

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

Hello, i'm posting for the first time but i've been following this community since the #! times.

Congrats on the Lithium RC! Right now i'm writing happily from a fresh install. Everything seems to work ok and the level of detail put on the release is amazing. Just a few comments and/or suggestions:
* I'm also having the problem with Catfish sometimes not launching.
* The package paper-icon-theme is not on the repositories, so bunsen-paper-icon-theme won't install. If it's possible to add it to Lithium repositories it would be great. The new Papirus has .svg icons and those would not play nicely with some apps (wbar for example). Paper it's an excellent complement because of the common style.
* I've edited the default tint2 layout to display at the top. I think it would be great to have it as an option as well as the vertical version, since it was the default location on previous versions.

I'll continue testing. Cheers from Argentina!

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#62 2020-06-14 05:18:01

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

Catfish is buggy - there have been several posts about this recently;

Well, you can have both top and bottom lithium tint2rc's: copy the default and rename it, and set

panel_position = top center horizontal

Oh...and welcome to the Bunsen Gang smile


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#63 2020-06-14 05:33:02

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

Hi ezequiel_tkd!

ezequiel_tkd wrote:

* The package paper-icon-theme is not on the repositories, so bunsen-paper-icon-theme won't install.

Sorry about that - it's an oversight that we'll fix very soon. And thanks for the reminder. smile


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#64 2020-06-14 15:42:49

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Today I run into the same problem that was described here:

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/post.php? … &qid=97948

yoda wrote:

I just clean installed [Lithium] ... After a while not using the laptop, the display is dimmed (Dark), it's ok.

But if I wait a bit, and touch the keyboard, the screen does not come back.

I tried the suggested solution:

Sector11 wrote:

Edit the OpenBox "autostart" file and add these lines:

### Stop screen from going black ###
(xset -dpms && xset s off) &

But today I had the same problem again. The screen became dark and I found no way to wake it up again so I had to use the On/Off-button to shut down the computer.

Some ideas what I can do?

I think I have read that it would help to install a newer kernel but I don't find this post about this topic again.

My laptop is a Lenovo T420 with a Core i5 processor.

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#65 2020-06-15 20:32:21

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This should be set in xfce4-power-manager. Main-menu>Preferences>Power Management>Display, make sure it's enabled then set the 3 top sliders to 0 (Never).

If you edited the Openbox autostart but are logging into a BunsenLabs session, that xset setting will be ignored. For BunsenLabs' autostart, use Main-menu>Preferences>BunsenLabs>Edit autosart

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#66 2020-06-27 11:04:35

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

Interested to try this again.
I've not been able to use BL for over a year since upgrading my PC hardware and finding the old Stretch Debian base unable to support it.

Before switching away (to OpenSUSE TW) I backed up all of mu config files and themes using BLOB. Question: If I reinstall the icon packs, images etc, will BLOB correctly re-apply my old configs and themes to Lithium?

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#67 2020-06-27 15:12:15

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

redrobo66 wrote:

Interested to try this again.
I've not been able to use BL for over a year since upgrading my PC hardware and finding the old Stretch Debian base unable to support it.

Before switching away (to OpenSUSE TW) I backed up all of mu config files and themes using BLOB. Question: If I reinstall the icon packs, images etc, will BLOB correctly re-apply my old configs and themes to Lithium?

It should, as I've used BLOB a couple times and one time I totally FUBAR'd my setup but was able to restore them once I reinstalled.

If you have really new hardware, I would recommend using the text installer as your new hardware and graphics might be too new for the 4.19 kernel in Lithium. There is a 5.6 kernel in the buster-backports repo.

In my experience that worked for me as I have a Ryzen 3 system with builtin Radeon graphics which is too new for the 4.19 kernel in the Lithium live image. The graphical installer failed to launch, but the text installer worked fine. When I rebooted I was able to get just a 1024x768 screen which was enough for me to run the bl-welcome to add the backports then upgraded the kernel. After that, had BL in all its glory!

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#68 2020-06-27 15:26:40

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

redrobo66 wrote:

...If I reinstall the icon packs, images etc, will BLOB correctly re-apply my old configs and themes to Lithium?

Not entirely - Lithium uses xbindkeys, for example.


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#69 2020-06-27 15:42:27

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

damo wrote:
redrobo66 wrote:

...If I reinstall the icon packs, images etc, will BLOB correctly re-apply my old configs and themes to Lithium?

Not entirely - Lithium uses xbindkeys, for example.

Would been nice if BLOB did also save the xbindkeys config and ask if you want to restore them as well.


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#70 2020-06-27 17:21:28

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^ I understood the question was: does it restore old BLOBs, which don't have the new config files? Mostly, I think - the script will rewrite user BLOBs to fit the latest syntax, but it is only meant to run in a bunsenlabs-session, not an openbox session. You may also need to log out/in to show any changes to notification themes. johnraff knows most about the inner workings.

Having different keybinds for different theme collections seems an unusual requirement.

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#71 2020-06-28 02:32:43

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

@redrobo66 as DD and damo said, the hope is that BLOB will do its best to restore themes that were stored under Helium, and update them to fit the new syntax. But keep a copy of the backed-up ~/.confi/blob folder just in case it gets overwritten in a destructive way, and please post a bug report if that happens! (fingers crossed)

Oh yes, logout/in might be needed to see some changes, but there is hope that that might become unnecessary in the future, if we introduce xsettingsd and get it to co-operate with twoion's gtk-restart script. Another TODO, maybe post-release, maybe Beryllium...

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#72 2020-06-28 15:21:44

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

Many thanks chaps.

I guess I need to get off my backside and go install it smile

I've been very happy on Tumbleweed Plasma for the past 18 months but I do miss Bunsenlabs.
I even stripped out my Plasma installation, enabled right click menu and got Conky working in Kwin but it's not the same...

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#73 2020-06-28 21:27:16

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

redrobo66 wrote:

Many thanks chaps.

I guess I need to get off my backside and go install it smile

I've been very happy on Tumbleweed Plasma for the past 18 months but I do miss Bunsenlabs.
I even stripped out my Plasma installation, enabled right click menu and got Conky working in Kwin but it's not the same...

I've tried  just the barebones plasma which is just basically the plasma-workspace package plus the NM Plasmoid and it's certainly not the same as BL. Openbox has grown onto me too as it's fast and gets out of the way vs Plasma and GNOME.


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#74 2020-07-02 12:03:11

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

Excellent work devs!
Tried it on a live flash disk yesterday and it seems to be very solid. I like the new theme too.

I'll try and install it on bare metal in about 2 weeks when I have more free time from work.
Till then.

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#75 2020-07-03 17:16:55

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Re: BunsenLabs Lithium Release Candidate iso available

I absolutely love the new bunsenlabs!  It looks great, the new menu is very much welcomed ( I never remember to add the programs to the menu). The Team is doing a great job and appreciated. Thank you very much!

FYI I was able to upgrade to sid without a break. So far. nm ton of broken dependencies

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