#1 2025-03-19 14:52:06

Pirx

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Gimp 3.0 released

Many didn't believe it was going to happen, but, after almost seven years, here it is. Any serious Gimp users in here?

You can download Appimage from the official website if it hasn't been updated in your distro repos.

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Re: Gimp 3.0 released

I refuse to run the application until they change the name to "GNU Image Manipulation Program" officially and drop the horrendous bacronym, which has that disgusting sexual predator Stallman's dirty hands all over it

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Pirx

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Let's be honest - Gimp is not the best name for a serious program. It basically guarantees that Gimp will never be used in education or  administration.

Gimp was created when "Pulp Fiction" was still a very popular movie and at the time the word gimp had a special cultural reference that is not obvious anymore. It was an acceptable name for a program created by a group of enthusiast that happen to be Tarantino's fans, but Gimp is not that program anymore. I don't mind the name, because I'm used to it, but I can understand that it may sound a little bit weird.

In Mint it's called GNU Image Manipulation Program. Search for Gimp in the menu and you won't find it.

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It's called "GNU Image Manipulation Program". ;-)

Head_on_a_Stick

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^ Not in Romanian!

~$ grep '^Name\[ro\]' /usr/share/applications/gimp.desktop 
Name[ro]=GIMP
~$

EDIT: and well done to the Mint devs. Good decision.

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Pirx

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It's called "GNU Image Manipulation Program". ;-)

Do you mean GNU's Not Unix Image Manipulation Program? Yeah, but everybody knows it as Gimp...

BTW GNU Image Manipulation Program is also a terrible name.

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A bit more trivia..

GTK, the popular toolkit now developed by gnome originally started out as the GIMP Tool Kit.

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Pirx

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GNU's Not Unix Image Manipulation Program Tool Kit. Beautifull...

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...and if we can return to the topic of that Image editor's new release of version 3.0...

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Pirx

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Thanks God they didn't go for this logo/mascott:

Pirx

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...and if we can return to the topic of that Image editor's new release of version 3.0...

I'm happy that it's finally happened. I'm not using Gimp that often anymore, but it's one of the most important FOSS projects.  And there aren't any serious Gimp alternatives for Linux. It's difficult to imagine Linux world without Gimp.

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I'll try to avoid the topic of it needing a name change here, because I have been down that road before and gotten burnt badly...

I've been using it nearly every day for five years now, for everything from smaller-scale personal hobby projects to larger-scale art projects in collaboration with other people.  That's not an exaggeration.  Despite this, I wouldn't necessarily call mysely a "power user", since I don't use all features extensively, so for me any newer or additional features don't matter quite as much as fixing existing performance.  So many frustrating bugs... but hey, I'm just one drop in a bucket of other users, maybe folks these days have been begging for things I couldn't begin to imagine.

It's embarassing how many critical features of the program, internal and external, are flawed "beyond repair" in the eyes of many folks who could contribute.  (I'm counting myself partially in that crowd.)  Much of its core engine is chained down by 90s-era limitations, and it becomes immensely frustrating to do very basic things in it because it doesn't work at all how you would expect.  And even when you get decent enough at using it to make it work for you, trying to bring colleagues or peers in educational settings on board... that's not just an excersize in caution, but a workout routine.  It will continue to be a routine as long as it's got that name, simple as.  There's alternatives to it I've tried, but most are simply forks of it, so those underlying faults still exist in those forks as well.

If newer development has made it a better program to use, I will try to get more "serious" about the way I use it.  If it hasn't, then I think I will reconsider whether I want to use it at all anymore.  I'm getting to a crossroads with it where if I want to do anything in a more professional setting, I will need to switch to using proprietary tools already deeply rooted in those professional settings.  It's a damned shame.

I'm looking forward, but I'm not sure how much hope I have yet.

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Re: Gimp 3.0 released

Bug with Gimp 3.x icons.

This fix usually works:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/13151

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Re: Gimp 3.0 released

A few years ago, I used GIMP a lot. Then, I started using darktable. I was happy to get the new release of GIMP, but when I opened it up to try it, I found that I had forgotten how to use it.

Oh, well. darktable suits my needs very well.

Pirx

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Gimp hasn't been up to modern standards for more than a decade now. To be honest, I don't know why.

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For a casual user, it's a great program, I use it for making/modding wallpapers and other art, for doing editing on my photography, combining that also with fractal images and such.

My wife is a volunteer with our local ladies group, and she does the flyers and whatnot for their charitable events and uses it a lot.

Inkscape is another one i'm happy to have and use a fair bit.

Are they perfect? No. I have older copies of Photoshop and Illustrator on an older dual-boot desktop (windows XP) and used them before the switch to 100% Linux, and they were easier to use, especially when dealing with text elements.

But no biggie, i'm just grateful to have something to do these things, good to hear there's a new version.

The name is unfortunate obviously, somebody didn't think that through.

Perhaps a different moniker, possibly: Photography, Images, Graphics.  PIG

"Well I gotta do some theming, time to fire up the PIG"

Pirx

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For a casual user, it's a great program...

It's to complex. The default interface is just a terrible mess. It's hard to believe, but it was even worse in the past. Now, at least, we have a single window mode.

The problem with Gimp is that it's to complex for casual users and not good enough for professionals (has non linear editing been finally implemented?)

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For a casual user, it's a great program...

The problem with Gimp is that it's to complex for casual users

Not in my experience, wife picked it up easy without even using any help documentation, and so have dozens of other users that i've converted to Linux, sure there's a learning to curve to do more exotic stuff, but most folks don't use it that way. Most i've talked to use it mainly for cropping photos and resizing/re-touching and such, and also for making stuff like simple flyers for events.

There's also Krita which is somewhat different but has a lot of the same feature set, it's especially suited to people who draw with Wacoms and such.

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Not in my experience, wife picked it up easy without even using any help documentation, and so have dozens of other users that i've converted to Linux...

I didn't say it was impossible to learn/use. I said it was to complex.

• The default interface is cluttered. There is plenty of options and tools casual users neither need or are familiar with.

• Tools and their options are detached and it's not really clear how to use them.

• Tools and effects have very complex settings.

• You want to blur the image? Sure. There is twelve different blur types to choose from. A little bit of noise? Seven types to choose from.

It doesn't look like a program for casual users...

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*too*