Carbon Themes (proposal)

altman · 2024-08-23 21:37:38

hhh wrote:

@altman...
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 55#p137255

Thx, appreciated @hhh

hhh · 2024-08-24 03:34:12

Happy with these icons for bl-exit. It reeks of GNOME, but there's no getting away from that with these icons.

micko01 · 2024-08-24 03:41:53

DeepDayze wrote:

Mate-power-manager brings in these:
For mate-notification-daemon:

$ sudo apt -s install --no-install-recommends mate-notification-daemon
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libgtk-layer-shell0 libmate-desktop-2-17 libmate-panel-applet-4-1 mate-notification-daemon-common
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libgtk-layer-shell0 libmate-desktop-2-17 libmate-panel-applet-4-1 mate-notification-daemon mate-notification-daemon-common
0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
<snip>

Interesting:

libgtk-layer-shell0

A wayland specific package.

I'm guessing, due to that that mate-power-manager should support wayland also, as should anything gtk3 or higher.

Aside from that I'm using mako notifier and it should be fine as it supports icons and progress bars.

PackRat · 2024-08-24 09:34:24

The mate battery applet works in Wayland, but not the power manager.

Mate project is putting a lot of effort into Wayland support. https://mate-desktop.org/blog/2024-02-2 … -released/

hhh · 2024-08-25 02:44:31

Back to Xorg, my issue with the power notification being a different window, being sent independently from mate-power-manager, was only with the icon. It's got a 3d glow glowing on and a grey border that just makes it out of place with the window and the slider. It looks blurry, and doesn't match the other notifications.

Replacing /usr/share/mate-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-brightness-lcd.svg with another icon (a hacked Numix icon in this example, with a volume icon from Humanity that I've also hacked) solves this for me. Two notifications that look somewhat unified, and the brightness window fades out after a half second anyway, which further blurs the disjointedness)...

The brightness notification is fading out in this scrot. See the next link for a more accurate scrot.

@johnraff, we've been inserting our BL flame icon into /usr/share/gnome and other root folders, can we overwrite the icon(s) from mate-power-manager? Will overwriting them again if m-p-m gets upgraded be possible, and if so, harder than backporting a patched xfce4-power-manager?

If so, that's what I propose.

The Full Monty progression-scrot...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 80#p137480

I'm really pleased that all the rounded corners of the different components windows match. jgmenu matches as well, I didn't show that.

johnraff · 2024-08-25 04:15:52

hhh wrote:

@johnraff, we've been inserting our BL flame icon into /usr/share/gnome and other root folders, can we overwrite the icon(s) from mate-power-manager? Will overwriting them again if m-p-m gets upgraded be possible, and if so, harder than backporting a patched xfce4-power-manager?

Do you mean /usr/share/icons/gnome/scalable/places/start-here.svg?
If so, it's a special case. That's a Debian alternative which we set to point to
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/places/start-here-bunsenlabs.svg

But we do have ways of overwriting icons - we make an icon package like eg bunsen-paper-icon-theme which mostly inherits some other icon theme but adds a few BL icons. That works well as long as the user doesn't switch icon themes. If we wanted to override the mate-power-manager icons in every icon theme I think it might be a lot of work, going on impossible.

But /usr/share/mate-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-brightness-lcd.svg sounds like something shipped by mate-power-manager itself. The systray icon doesn't change to match the chosen icon theme? And your problem isn't with the systray, but notification popups?

johnraff · 2024-08-25 04:25:30

hhh wrote:

... can we overwrite the icon(s) from mate-power-manager? Will overwriting them again if m-p-m gets upgraded be possible, and if so, harder than backporting a patched xfce4-power-manager?
If so, that's what I propose.

Is the main advantage of m-p-m in not having systray icon problems? Then I can best answer your question by actually trying to patch x-p-m on Trixie and see if I can remember how it was done (a problem with every release) and whether it still works. If it goes smoothly we can just continue with x-p-m I guess?

hhh · 2024-08-25 04:56:13

^ That's fine too, of course.

Here's the most relevant post IMO, the one that contains the patches you were looking at...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 77#p116177

It's over my head, I don't get it. I looked at some of those patches and compared them to the apt source file I pulled for sid, and all those additions and subtractions seem to be in there. Do your voodoo!

hhh · 2024-08-25 05:14:27

johnraff wrote:

But /usr/share/mate-power-manager/icons/hicolor/scalable/status/gpm-brightness-lcd.svg sounds like something shipped by mate-power-manager itself. The systray icon doesn't change to match the chosen icon theme? And your problem isn't with the systray, but notification popups?

Yes. I've figured out the power-manager tray icons...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 89#p137389

So that's it exactly. mate-power-manager, apparently like most power managers, handles the lcd backlight, but (uniquely) sends it's notification OSD to it's own window (separate from it's other notifications), with it's own set of icons which are basically first-gen GNOME icons (hicolor, seriously early), like what you see in the tray in that recent scrot.

I get it now, I've seen it before... that's how (what's-now-called "GNOME Classic") GNOME 2 did it. Nostalgia, Mate forked that long ago.

Buy it really doesn't work with their icon and my desktop proposals, IMO like way worse than the GNOME nm-applet icons. As far as I can tell we only need to replace the one icon, but I don't think it can be done locally, xfce4-power-manager doesn't read local files first.

So I was wondering if that would be easier to figure out than a backport of x-p-m. But if you succeed with another backport... hey!

hhh · 2024-08-25 06:55:06

Incorporating everything that I have so far. Notably mate-power-manager replacing xfce4-power-manager, with a hacked notification window, plus new bunsen-Yaru icons to unify the desktop theme...

johnraff · 2024-08-25 07:47:44

hhh wrote:

...So I was wondering if that would be easier to figure out than a backport of x-p-m. But if you succeed with another backport... hey!

Give me a couple of days.

johnraff · 2024-08-25 07:50:40

hhh wrote:

Incorporating everything that I have so far. Notably mate-power-manager replacing xfce4-power-manager, with a hacked notification window, plus new bunsen-Yaru icons to unify the desktop theme...
https://i.imgur.com/JGwqs7sm.png

Just get rid of all those gnomey-looking icons somehow. We never had those with Numix in Boron, or Papirus or Paper for that matter.

It looks beautiful when I open thunar and see the folders and file icons, but there seems to be something about what goes in tint2...

DeepDayze · 2024-08-25 15:12:47

PackRat wrote:

The mate battery applet works in Wayland, but not the power manager.
Mate project is putting a lot of effort into Wayland support. https://mate-desktop.org/blog/2024-02-2 … -released/

So we should then watch mate-power-manager and if the Wayland support does materialize for it then this could be a great substitute for xfce4-power-manager (thus won't need hackage for its icon). It may be expected this Wayland support might not come in time for Carbon but most likely for Nitrogen.

hhh · 2024-08-25 17:02:58

johnraff wrote:

Just get rid of all those gnomey-looking icons somehow. We never had those with Numix in Boron, or Papirus or Paper for that matter.
It looks beautiful when I open thunar and see the folders and file icons, but there seems to be something about what goes in tint2...

It's a GNOME theme, just an Ubuntu-forked Adwaita. They've stayed close to upstream for maintenance and copyright reasons. Un-GNOME-ing the icon theme doesn't seem possible, we just use custom-colored Numix again (or another modern set).

But if you just mean get the GNOME out of the tint2 systray, no problem. I don't think anything more is needed other than replacing the 24x24/status folder with the one from Numix...

I like it.

hhh · 2024-08-26 02:58:03

Anyway, I repacked it without a version bump. Install it over your current install, or 'sudo apt purge --autoremove bunsen-yaru-icons' first and then install it...

https://github.com/hhhorb/bunsen-yaru-i … .1_all.deb

-edit- updated lcd-backlight notification icon not included

Last edited by hhh (2024-08-26 03:00:11)

johnraff · 2024-08-26 05:39:21

hhh wrote:

johnraff wrote:
Just get rid of all those gnomey-looking icons somehow...
It's a GNOME theme, just an Ubuntu-forked Adwaita. They've stayed close to upstream for maintenance and copyright reasons. Un-GNOME-ing the icon theme doesn't seem possible, we just use custom-colored Numix again (or another modern set).
But if you just mean get the GNOME out of the tint2 systray, no problem. I don't think anything more is needed other than replacing the 24x24/status folder with the one from Numix...
https://i.imgur.com/3RVhoUrm.png
I like it.

Yeh I like that too in the systray.
Otherwise, there are some of the app icons, I'm thinking especially of that 1960s terminal emulator, and something else that came up in one of your screenshots that didn't appeal - in the sense that as soon as I see an icon like that on my desktop I know something's got messed up in my theme settings.

Perhaps we can make a hybrid icon theme of Numix+Yaru using inheritance and maybe symlinks so as to get the nicest parts of each? (Possibly the square Numix instead of circular??)

johnraff · 2024-08-26 05:41:35

hhh wrote:

Anyway, I repacked it without a version bump.
...
updated lcd-backlight notification icon not included

What did you change?

Users might appreciate a small version bump next time, if it's not a lot of trouble.

hhh · 2024-08-26 11:02:34

johnraff wrote:

Otherwise, there are some of the app icons, I'm thinking especially of that 1960s terminal emulator, and something else that came up in one of your screenshots that didn't appeal - in the sense that as soon as I see an icon like that on my desktop I know something's got messed up in my theme settings.
Perhaps we can make a hybrid icon theme of Numix+Yaru using inheritance and maybe symlinks so as to get the nicest parts of each? (Possibly the square Numix instead of circular??)

I think a hybrid theme is too much work that will result in too many broken symlinks, and much pulling of hair and gnashing of teeth on my end. :^D Also, truncate Yaru but install Numix? I thought we were trying to limit the icon package size. Might as well just do a matching bunsen-Numix-circle theme and we can host bunsen-Yaru as an *-extra package if anyone is interested.

Numix (square) by itself loses a bunch of icons (Hello again, gnome-terminal icon!), and replaces a few.

-edit- bark...

hhh · 2024-08-26 11:18:42

johnraff wrote:

hhh wrote:
Anyway, I repacked it without a version bump.
...
updated lcd-backlight notification icon not included
What did you change?
Users might appreciate a small version bump next time, if it's not a lot of trouble.

I replaced some icons to make bl-exit look better, and replaced 24x24/status with the status folder from Numix.

I'll open a new thread to ask about why my version-bump attempts with this package fail with "unrepresented changes" errors from substituting icon folders, but not right now.

hhh · 2024-08-26 11:45:36

Goodnight, sweet GNOME...

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