Email clients?

Martin · 2022-08-23 21:11:12

What email clients are you using?

I have used Claws Mail at home for many, many years. Now, however, I get HTML-emails too often that do not render despite my use of plug-ins. So far I have found the fully HTML capable email clients I have looked at to be excessive.

At work I use Evolution but there that is a must for integration with corporate IT. I don't need something that fully featured at home.

/Martin

DeepDayze · 2022-08-24 00:53:35

Thunderbird?

jr2 · 2022-08-24 07:49:41

Also recommend Thunderbird.
Minimal it's not, but does the job. Because it's so flexible getting things just how you want might take a while. eg all my messages are displayed as "simplified html" - no images, links are clickable, font is my choice, not the sender's - which all works perfectly for me. But the defaults should be OK too.

rbh · 2022-08-24 12:19:14

I have used most email-clients. Prefer Thunderbird, but is a little disapointed about plugins suddenly quit working... Do not think there is so big diffence between evolution and Thunerbird.. Sometimes I wish a lighter mail-client. Will look att claws again.

Used Sylphed and the later Claws mail many years ago. See, that it has evolved much since then.

I see that package claws-mail-fancy-plugin is available in stable-backports, but it isd not installable due to missing dependencies. If you are using claws-mail-dillo-viewer, I can understand you are dissatisfied with rendering of html-mails.

Is upgrading to Debian-testing an option for you to install claws-mail-fancy-plugin?

sleekmason · 2022-08-24 12:58:18

Thunderbird here too.

I have tried Sylpheed and Geary, which is the replacement for evolution. Both Sylpheed and Geary require an app security key from google if using gmail. Thunderbird takes care of it through an extra browser.

I thought the Geary interface to be clean and usable. Been using Thunderbird for years though with little issue. I don't use any plugins though.

manyroads · 2022-08-24 13:33:53

T'bird

Martin · 2022-08-24 19:55:18

So this is the T'bird fan club :-)

Many years ago now so I may be wrong but I think I was glad to ditch T'bird when moving over to Claws. Time to reconsider maybe.

/Martin

Martin · 2022-08-25 20:47:40

I am currently fooling around with the email client that is built into Vivaldi and with Geary.

Geary is nice and clean. It renders HTML. But no address book and no sorting of emails into folders? Am I missing something?

Vivaldi's email client is fully featured for email it seems. I don't seem to be able to choose between plain or rich text when composing an email. Folders seems to be going out of fashion. There are three levels of featuritis for this email client. You get an address book if you pick the highest level of features included. You also get some stuff I am not interested in.

A funny thing with this little test is that Claws, Vivaldi and Geary all need slightly different settings to work with the same email provider. I could not just copy setting from Claws. I find this really odd.

/Martin

rbh · 2022-08-26 06:09:18

Martin wrote:

Geary is nice and clean. It renders HTML. But no address book and no sorting of emails into folders? Am I missing something?

No, Geary is very basic,

What plugin are you using in Claws? Claws-mail-fancy-plugin or claws-mail-dillo-viewer?

Colonel Panic · 2022-08-26 09:05:08

I generally use Thunderbird. Occasionally I will use (Sylpheed?) Claws, but that takes more setting up than Thunderbird does.

In my experience all e-mail clients are a pain to set up although Thunderbird is the least painful because it has the best server autodetection, which is why it's the one I use most often.

Has anyone had experience of using Mutt? What's it like to set up and use?

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Martin · 2022-08-26 16:17:34

rbh wrote:

Martin wrote:
Geary is nice and clean. It renders HTML. But no address book and no sorting of emails into folders? Am I missing something?
No, Geary is very basic,
What plugin are you using in Claws? Claws-mail-fancy-plugin or claws-mail-dillo-viewer?

The Dillo one.

Regarding HTML rendering: Today I received an email from the German record label ECM. Geary rendered it flawlessly as far as I could see while Vivaldi's email client actually had some issues. Claws/Dillo failed completely. That email came with a plain text version but some senders have stopped doing this. (How? Why?)

RAM foot print: Claws < Geary <<< Vivaldi.

/Martin

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Sun For Miles · 2022-08-26 21:26:40

T'bird last 10 years. I was switching around before that, but decided to have a common cross-platform app that just works and sticked to it ever since. Combined "offline" inbox for 8 email accounts is just how I roll.

jr2 · 2022-08-26 22:35:07

Sorry to keep harping on Tbird, but Simple Html view option displays text messages and HTML pretty much the same. Doesn't matter if the sender sends a text version or not.

kozimodo · 2022-08-27 13:15:59

Evolution for me. Long ago I used claws but switched to thunderbird because of lack of (easy) address book syncing. Recently switched to evolution because everything just works.

sleekmason · 2022-08-27 13:37:02

^ This is interesting! I didn't bother with evolution because Geary is supposed to be the replacement. Will have to check Evolution out on it's own.

The vivaldi browser . . Haven't tried that yet either. Not in the repos though?

@johnraff, Good to see you alive and well.)

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Martin · 2022-08-27 20:20:48

Geary and Evolution are very different. I use Evolution at work and it integrates rather well into the Microsoft-centric corporate IT Eco-system.

/Martin

Colonel Panic · 2022-10-02 14:46:02

I'm currently trying Betterbird, which its developers describe as a fine-tuned version of Thunderbird and with added features. Here's a table from its website showing what it offers;

https://www.betterbird.eu/index.html#featuretable

So far I haven't found any bugs or problems with it, but I'm happy enough with Thunderbird on the whole that I don't feel a big need to switch from it; maybe others will feel differently?

darknetmatrix · 2022-10-02 15:51:45

After years of thunderbird i made the switch to mailspring

sleekmason · 2022-10-02 19:53:14

Colonel Panic wrote:

I'm currently trying Betterbird, which its developers describe as a fine-tuned version of Thunderbird and with added features. Here's a table from its website showing what it offers;
https://www.betterbird.eu/index.html#featuretable
So far I haven't found any bugs or problems with it, but I'm happy enough with Thunderbird on the whole that I don't feel a big need to switch from it; maybe others will feel differently?

Just gave Betterbird a try and like what I see so far. It has groovy icon colors for the sidebar. I don't notice much more than that but don't really do more than basic email.

Mailspring looks interesting as well.

johnraff · 2023-02-17 06:47:50

The Future of Thunderbird
blog post: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2023/02/th … ground-up/

Very upbeat but vague on details. I hope they don't mess up the interface I've been using with no (or very few) problems for the last 20 some years.

A bit of good news though, there's going to be an Android Tbird: https://blog.thunderbird.net/2022/06/re … -plans-k9/

Co-ordinating with the developers of K9 which is what I'm using now on the phone, for lack of anything better.

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