New ISO build to try.

sleekmason · 2021-01-27 22:59:33

eight.bit.al wrote:

sleekmason wrote:
Kinda figured it was a rarity. French distro eh? Link or it didn't happen:)
http://distrowatch.org/table.php?distribution=hybryde

http://distrowatch.org/?newsid=07870
8bit

Oh Wow! 11 different environments. That's wild. Looks like the developer has all sorts of neat graphics tools.

I wonder how the platform is handled? For mine, it's lxde holding the session while switching between the managers.

How did they manage the switch between full blown desktop environments?
Unless not the whole environment is switching?

Maybe just using the window manager of each environment while sticking with one session environment? <-- Betting on that one.

Really nice find. Thank you for the links.

DeepDayze · 2021-01-28 02:42:33

sleekmason wrote:

DeepDayze wrote:
I liked jwm as well but it didn't play too nicely with tint2 and compton unless that has changed.
Just checked it out for ya:) No problems here with tint2 and/or Compton, though I didn't disable the other panel first, just clicked it in place over the existing.
Panel toggles are now uploaded for the minimal build. Full build probably in a few hours. You can toggle between the wm's freely in the full build. No need to log out.

Cool, maybe will even try JWM again on my BL setup and maybe see if I can get jgmenu working with it if the JWM menu can be disabled.

Sounds like your distro-let is getting sleeker than ever (pun)...nice work!

sleekmason · 2021-02-12 13:42:32

Okay, So a few updates of note. I finally have all the toggles in place for both the panels and the Wm's.

What this means, is that you can not only toggle between the desktops freely in the full build, but can now also toggle between the panels within the desktops at will, with whatever you choose, replacing what was there.

These changes revert on desktop change or restart, and of course this can be changed as well.

For the minimal version (sub 800MB), There are now toggles for each of the panels and 1 for the plank/stalonetray combo.

This means that for Openbox and Fluxbox, any of the panels are available at will. For pekwm, all but tint2 is available, and for jwm . . well nothing more than the default panel for now:) just haven't gotten that far yet.

Also, made a light gray theme with a Geany theme for those who like light desktops. I want to eventually create a toggle to switch between light and dark on the fly.

The possibilities are endless. With a little thought.

Here's a question . . Is it possible to assign different panels to different desktops within the same wm?
If so, custom environments can be created using these same panels customized to your needs.

Anyway, things keep progressing and becoming more interesting as Lilidog develops.

Would love to hear some feedback from somebody who actually has tried Lilidog. I literally have no idea if anybody likes this or not. I have zero real feedback from anybody saying they have tried Lilidog.

deleted0 · 2021-02-12 17:29:56

If you dropped an ISO, I'd be all over it.

8bit

sleekmason · 2021-02-12 19:02:16

eight.bit.al wrote:

If you dropped an ISO, I'd be all over it.
8bit

Sadly, I see your point.

What would be the best option for me to do this?

* The actual building of the iso does take some time to be sure, but you are downloading the same amount either way. Live-build itself doesn't weigh much, and can be removed after the build. But again, yeah, I need to do something else.

deleted0 · 2021-02-12 19:30:32

^ Can't help with building an ISO. Except look into Refracta tools

https://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/docs/r … apshot.txt

MX Linux does something similar, could look into that.

Enough on my plate to take on figuring out the build process.

good luck,
8bit

sleekmason · 2021-02-12 20:54:39

eight.bit.al wrote:

^ Can't help with building an ISO. Except look into Refracta tools
https://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/docs/r … apshot.txt
MX Linux does something similar, could look into that.
Enough on my plate to take on figuring out the build process.
good luck,
8bit

It is ready to build!
I should have explained. Literally, all you need to do is Download the zip file, (a few MB)

Unzip it.
Open a terminal in the resultant folder.

sudo apt install live-build

sudo lb build

This will build an iso to be found in the main folder upon completion.
Sometimes live build goofs a bit and to

sudo lb clean

if it does, and try again. Nothing else needed. Takes about an hour to build on my 12 year old laptop. There are further directions for those wanting to start building their own distro.

https://github.com/sleekmason/Lilidog-Buster

Nevertheless, I should host an ISO for people to download instead.
I guess what I need is the cheapest way to host a couple of ISO's ? Any suggestions?

Last edited by sleekmason (2021-02-12 20:58:27)

deleted0 · 2021-02-12 22:47:42

DL the zip file. Extracted to a dir. Open terminal here.

sudo apt install live-build

sudo lb build

/usr/sbin/debootstrap: 1578: /usr/sbin/debootstrap: cannot create /media/al/ISO/dog/Lilidog-Buster-master/chroot/test-dev-null: Permission denied
E: Cannot install into target '/media/al/ISO/dog/Lilidog-Buster-master/chroot' mounted with noexec or nodev
chroot: failed to run command ‘/usr/bin/env’: No such file or directory

sudo lb clean

Same error again.
Okay, I gave it a shot. I'm out.

8bit

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sleekmason · 2021-02-13 00:35:10

eight.bit.al wrote:

DL the zip file. Extracted to a dir. Open terminal here.

sudo apt install live-build

sudo lb build

/usr/sbin/debootstrap: 1578: /usr/sbin/debootstrap: cannot create /media/al/ISO/dog/Lilidog-Buster-master/chroot/test-dev-null: Permission denied
E: Cannot install into target '/media/al/ISO/dog/Lilidog-Buster-master/chroot' mounted with noexec or nodev
chroot: failed to run command ‘/usr/bin/env’: No such file or directory

sudo lb clean

Same error again.
Okay, I gave it a shot. I'm out.

8bit

Sorry it wouldn't work for you. Obviously the best thing I can do is release an iso.
So, I have decided to look at hosting sites.
Any recommendations welcome. I don't know anything about it.

*Edit Can Sourceforge work for this?

Last edited by sleekmason (2021-02-13 01:06:27)

sleekmason · 2021-02-13 23:08:34

Well, I've got the full ISO build up:) https://sourceforge.net/projects/lilido … /Releases/

Just click on the Lilidog-amd64.hybrid.iso

deleted0 · 2021-02-13 23:49:43

^ That's what I'm talkin' about. Nice. Dl'ing.

4+6-2bit

Last edited by deleted0 (2021-02-13 23:50:57)

deleted0 · 2021-02-14 02:39:21

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Things I liked:
3 File managers
Quick Grab <--sweet

Broken:
Right-click - Debian - Settings - Desktop Preferences
Desktop Manager is not active. (maybe used by another WM??)

???:
Right-click - Debian - System & Utilities
Three ways to start Thunar that all looked the same to me.

Not found:
A way to change wallpaper (GUI)
Those s̶k̶u̶l̶l̶s̶ rocks are not for me.

More time to play with it tomorrow.

Now, what are you gunna do for an installer?

8bit

hhh · 2021-02-14 02:59:40

500-550 RAM for a desktop in use is good. Now, ask for help with the Debian Installer? ;P

sleekmason · 2021-02-14 03:10:44

Thank you so much for looking!

Broken:
Right-click - Debian - Settings - Desktop Preferences
Desktop Manager is not active. (maybe used by another WM??)

Nothing is Broken!

All of the (active) settings for Lilidog can be found under Utilities in the menu.
What you found are the settings if you use the pcmanfm desktop (for icons, wallpaper, etc).

If you would prefer to use icons on the desktop, enable __pcmanfm --desktop --profile__ in Lxsession autostart.

???:
Right-click - Debian - System & Utilities
Three ways to start Thunar that all looked the same to me.

Thunar is the default file manager and as such, will be opened under default names like "File Manager" from the Debian menu, which is populated automatically, or with the command

update-menus

in a terminal. Not really a Lilidog issue. The Debian menu is included as an extra only.

Not found:
A way to change wallpaper (GUI)
Those s̶k̶u̶l̶l̶s̶ rocks are not for me.

Sorry you don't like the rocks.
Feh sets the wallpaper directly in lxsession autostart rather than pointing to ~/.fehbg.

After installation, you may want to change this to

~/.fehbg &

in lxsession autostart for customization purposes, as feh uses this file as default.

For changing the wallpaper afterwards, or for just a temporary change, you can simply right-click from the thunar menu to set the background from an image file. The current wallpapers on the iso are stored in /home/wallpaper.

Edit* I think I can change this to start from ~/.fehbg on startup now. I'll put it on the list.

Now, what are you gunna do for an installer?

The standard Debian installer is available on boot. I could add it directly to the live session as well. Sounds like maybe I should add it in? Do most people expect to find an installer in the live session?

Last edited by sleekmason (2021-02-14 03:26:50)

sleekmason · 2021-02-14 03:12:27

hhh wrote:

500-550 RAM for a desktop in use is good. Now, ask for help with the Debian Installer? ;P

Any help is appreciated. I don't even know what might be missing if anything, or how to theme the installer itself. Very much open to help here if you can:)

hhh · 2021-02-14 03:35:19

@johnraff? I haven't done a live-build in years.

In the meantime...

https://lecorbeausvault.wordpress.com/2 … ive-build/

https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live … er.en.html

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apb.en.html

sleekmason · 2021-02-19 20:29:56

Okie dokie, New images up here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/lilido … /Releases/

Thanks to hhh and johnraff, I was able to get the installer themed, and b43 firmware added to the installer.

The theme for the graphical installer matches Lilidog now, but still needs some work on the logo to be sure.

Not sure if I have missed anything else concerning the installer or not.

Colonel Panic · 2021-03-03 15:27:40

Thanks for this one! I've downloaded it now and will burn it to a DVD and try it soon.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2021-03-03 15:28:00)

sleekmason · 2021-03-06 13:09:42

Colonel Panic wrote:

Thanks for this one! I've downloaded it now and will burn it to a DVD and try it soon.

Oh good! Hope you find something you like:) If you get a chance, let me know how it goes. The toggles are not fool proof, but they are fun')
--

Is anybody interested in a sid build?

I felt like I needed extra time to work out the problems I was going to face in Bullseye, so made a couple of sid versions to work on as well. (Can't make Bullseye yet due to lilo issue.)

Conky still has issues in sid, and the hotcorners script I was using needs to be reworked. (maybe switching to lwa-hotcorners). Other odds and ends need work as well to be sure.

From a build perspective, sid is a pain in the butt, but as a user, sure can be fun to mess with if you are not too worried in the crunch.

Of course various improvements are to be found as well. Anyhow, once the conky issue is resolved, I'll put up a minimal sid build as well.

Colonel Panic · 2021-03-06 19:39:25

Thanks for replying. At the moment I haven't got / made the room on my hard drive to install it, but I expect I will soon.

From what I've seen of the live disk though, it looks quite dark but classy - it's not drab in the way a lot of the darker-themed distros are.

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