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#1 2020-05-17 08:32:45

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To find application

I think it could be a good idee to include xfce4-appfinder in default installation.
It could be a good help for new users to find correct app to use.

Maybe there should be a list of most important default installed applications with short description? (someting to ponder for next release after Lithium)


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#2 2020-05-17 09:20:12

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Re: To find application

^ noted with thanks.
On the Beryllium todo list.


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#3 2020-05-17 12:05:05

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Re: To find application

I think it's a very good proposition; personally, I always added it because otherwise I find it difficult to find my way ....

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#4 2020-05-17 17:33:55

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Re: To find application

I've been a fan of xfce4-appfinder forever, and I welcome its inclusion to our package list.

That said, to play Devil's Advocate, the most useful feature of Appfinder besides icons and its GUI in general is type-to-search, which is already added to jgmenu, and dmenu has had it forever.

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#5 2020-05-17 17:45:12

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^ If we add xfce4-appfinder, I suggest we make it the default jgmenu "Run Program" search/run app over gmrun.

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#6 2020-05-17 20:18:54

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Re: To find application

hhh wrote:

I've been a fan of xfce4-appfinder forever, and I welcome its inclusion to our package list.

That said, to play Devil's Advocate, the most useful feature of Appfinder besides icons and its GUI in general is type-to-search, which is already added to jgmenu, and dmenu has had it forever.

The Lithium jgmenu already has a built-in appfinder hmm
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#7 2020-05-17 23:32:20

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Re: To find application

The main advantage with xfce4-appfinder, i think, is to be able to browse applications in categories and get a brief description.

Searching is only good if you know what to search for.


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#8 2020-05-18 00:15:51

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^ Look at the scrot: applications are displayed in Categories. No descriptions though.


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#9 2020-05-18 01:30:19

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Re: To find application

hhh wrote:

^ If we add xfce4-appfinder, I suggest we make it the default jgmenu "Run Program" search/run app over gmrun.

I use gmrun often to run arbitary commands when I don't feel like opening a terminal: like 'killall radiotray' or things that don't have .desktop files. I'm pretty sure appfinder can't be used this way. They're two quite different things IMO.


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#10 2020-05-18 01:36:34

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Re: To find application

johnraff wrote:

I use gmrun often to run arbitary commands when I don't feel like opening a terminal: like 'killall radiotray' or things that don't have .desktop files. I'm pretty sure appfinder can't be used this way. They're two quite different things IMO.

Yes. And it can use tab like a terminal. Or is @hhh referring to dmenu, not gmrun?


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#11 2020-05-18 02:12:11

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Re: To find application

johnraff wrote:

I use gmrun often to run arbitary commands when I don't feel like opening a terminal.

Oh yes, also if you want to fork something gmrun's better than a terminal. Tweaking tint2 config - killall tint2 - edit file - tint2. Do that in a terminal and you've got to keep the window open or tint2 will die.


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#12 2020-05-18 10:00:31

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Re: To find application

Yes, xfce4-appfinder, gmrun and jgmenu have different niches.

But, I think it doesnot matter if starting a process from terminal or gmrun. If starting from teminal, adding "&" last, works just as well as running the command from gmrun.

Starting xfce4-appfinder in collapsed mode (xfce4-appfinder -c), gives fewer possibilities than searching in jgmenu.
Xfce4-appfinder takes very little extra diskspace.


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#13 2020-05-18 13:58:48

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Re: To find application

rbh wrote:

I think it doesnot matter if starting a process from terminal or gmrun. If starting from teminal, adding "&" last, works just as well as running the command from gmrun.

Actually, not usually. Adding the '&' will give you back the prompt, but if you close the terminal window the forked process will die, unless you've taken some extra steps, like 'disown' or 'setsid'.


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#14 2020-05-18 14:19:11

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Re: To find application

johnraff wrote:

Adding the '&' will give you back the prompt, but if you close the terminal window the forked process will die, unless you've taken some extra steps, like 'disown' or 'setsid'.

Ah, apps started with sudo falls in that categori and stays up.


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#15 2020-05-18 23:46:55

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Re: To find application

johnraff wrote:
hhh wrote:

^ If we add xfce4-appfinder, I suggest we make it the default jgmenu "Run Program" search/run app over gmrun.

I use gmrun often to run arbitary commands when I don't feel like opening a terminal: like 'killall radiotray' or things that don't have .desktop files. I'm pretty sure appfinder can't be used this way. They're two quite different things IMO.

Agreed. For sure something that can be left to the user. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

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#16 2020-05-19 02:30:12

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Re: To find application

But we could still consider adding appfinder to the root menu for Beryllium. It's handy, and not so heavy.


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