Arch Linux vs Bunsenlabs

slashviper · 2015-11-11 12:07:16

Hi,
noob question...
what are the differences between the two distro?
thanks!

brontosaurusrex · 2015-11-11 12:09:35

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ar … NU.2FLinux

Head_on_a_Stick · 2015-11-11 12:11:47

Arch is for competent GNU/Linux users and favours control over convenience.

All packages are supplied largely unpatched and completely unconfigured.

BunsenLabs is for eveybody and aims to offer a minimal, elegant working environment with most configuration already carried out.

See here for more:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Ar … NU.2FLinux

EDIT: Ninja'd by bronto...

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Panda · 2015-11-11 13:01:30

@slashviper,

Because you prefaced your question like this..

slashviper wrote:

Hi,
noob question...

Starting with a Debian based system like 'BunsenLabs' is a good choice.

slashviper wrote:

sorry Emerald Caffeine, it seemed a technical question more than "Life, the Universe and Everything" topic.

You're doing just fine, there's a learning curve for everything.

KrunchTime · 2015-11-12 08:47:58

@OP: If you'd like to try out Arch without having to go through the detailed, time-consuming setup, checkout Antergos.

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Snap · 2015-11-12 09:22:45

As KrunchTime said, it's time consuming, but always a great exercise to learn the Linux system; ie giving Arch a go even if you don't plan to use it as your main system. Antergos, Manjaro, etc... are good, but the point of Arch is building it from the ground up yourself... Or Void Linux too. Another great option for the exercise. It really worths the effort, and anything you learn will be a valuable background for any other Linux flavor you decide to use. Including Debian/BunsenLabs, of course. It will make you a more proficient Debian user.

I personally keep sticking to Debian bacuse the apt package manager and... well, you need to compile and configure a bit (or a lot) less even from a vanilla net install. Debian has the hugest packages base in *Nixland.

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KrunchTime · 2015-11-12 09:29:37

Arch is a different beast as well, compared to Debian. I don't have all the time in the world to futz with my computer, so I've settled on Debian as my system of choice. It's been around for quite awhile and as Snap pointed out, they have a huge collection of packages. I have learned quite a bit from the Arch Wiki though, and contributed a small amount to the Arch cause because of it.

Horizon_Brave · 2015-11-12 19:20:19

KrunchTime wrote:

I have learned quite a bit from the Arch Wiki though, and contributed a small amount to the Arch cause because of it.

The Arch Wiki...is seriously, a library..not any library, but the Great Library of Alexandria for what I've needed...

gako · 2015-11-12 20:08:55

Arch wiki has been very helpful to me. I have been a Linux user for about 4 years, yet never got around to trying arch.

Questions:
Is there (in whoevuh's opinion) much of a learning difference between say, Debian minimal/NoX installs vs. the Arch instillation process?

I've had most experience with slackware and kind of imagine that setting up Arch would be in a grey area between Slack and Debian minimal, NoX installs as far as learning?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2015-11-12 20:15:35

gako wrote:

Is there (in whoevuh's opinion) much of a learning difference between say, Debian minimal/NoX installs vs. the Arch instillation process?

I install Debian using debootstrap(8) and the process is pretty much identical except that the Arch version actually has some documentation and is thus *much* easier.

I have tried Slackware, Debian and Arch and I would say that Arch is best for learning because the system is so simple with no abstractions getting in the way.

This is just my opinion, of course.

EDIT: 500 posts! Woot!

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gako · 2015-11-12 20:35:11

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

EDIT: 500 posts! Woot!

and so many valuable posts too, thank you

This post of yours is many kinds of awesomeness, I'd like to learn to set something like this up soon. I've never been interested in dual booting really, and usually just test things in VM's.

I only have one laptop, and this last minimal install I did I learned how to set up LVM.

As for Arch thanks for your input, and I'll have to try sometime on bare metal.

pa$$word · 2015-11-13 05:45:10

Arch Linux has a prettier website. Apart from that they're the same.

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KrunchTime · 2015-11-13 09:14:19

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

EDIT: 500 posts! Woot!

Watch out...you're head's going to hit the ceiling.

shot-in-the-head · 2015-11-13 12:18:39

I think you've just got to try out a few distros and see what fits you best.
I find Arch less hassle, because for me the focus is on getting newer software and I find that easier on Arch. It's also been the most
stable distro I have tried.
I also do not class myself as experienced or competent with linux or any operating system!

ohnonot · 2015-11-13 17:45:35

shot-in-the-head, i can relate to that.
installing arch is by no means easy, but once i get it working, it works.
there's some hickups every now and then, but i think you get that with every distro.
in all cases, a quick search on the arch forums revealed the solution, and fixing it gives me the deep satisfaction that eye am in control of my system (though i'm not saying that you can't have that with another distro).
once, i had to learn the hard way that one shouldn't do a system update/grade when one is in the middle of something else.

other than that, rolling, rolling, rolling! no need to re-evaluate my decision to use stable or testing every 6 months or so...

fog · 2015-11-13 17:57:59

Just in case: Architect

shot-in-the-head · 2015-11-13 18:59:36

I just installed it using helmuthdu scripts
https://github.com/helmuthdu/aui

g33zr · 2015-11-13 19:32:53

I tried to install Arch once. About halfway through the process, I asked myself why am I doing this? Since then, I've been happy to run Arch spins like Manjaro, which gives me a nice taste of Arch without the tears. I accomplish most routine tasks such as updating/upgrading and installing and removing apps via command line. 8o

ohnonot · 2015-11-14 08:16:25

ohnonot wrote:

installing arch is by no means easy, but once i get it working, it works.
and by doing it by hand, i do the one thing that empowers me to solve 90% of all problems myself.
there's some hickups every now and then, but i think you get that with every distro.
in all cases, a quick search on the arch forums revealed the solution, and fixing it gives me the deep satisfaction that eye am in control of my system (*) (though i'm not saying that you can't have that with another distro).
i had to learn the hard way that one shouldn't do a system update/grade when one is in the middle of something else, or in a hurry. have to keep an eye on it.

(*) a feeling i could not have if i'd used one of the many installer scripts.

edit: sorry, i just quoted myself instead of editing my last post.

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Head_on_a_Stick · 2015-11-14 08:49:55

ohnonot wrote:

a feeling i could not have if i'd used one of the many installer scripts

+1

I would find it more time-consuming and frustrating to try to figure out how exactly the installer had set my system up than to actually set it up myself.

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