KDE on BL

vasa1 · 2018-07-24 09:22:23

Plasmashell isn't the WM. It's KWin.

DeepDayze · 2018-07-24 13:40:04

vasa1 wrote:

Plasmashell isn't the WM. It's KWin.

Somehow nitrogen picks up KWin as plasmashell.

vasa1 · 2018-07-25 04:42:28

Does https://github.com/l3ib/nitrogen/issues/110 help?

hhh · 2018-07-25 23:14:13

DeepDayze wrote:

Seems transparency is not obvious for the panel but menus and dialogs I can adjust transparency in systemsettings. Any ideas?

I've done two plasma installs, the first one over BL upgraded to sid and the second over BL upgraded to buster. In both cases I had slight panel transparency. I adjusted inactive window transparency on the sid system and lost panel transparency, although I'm not sure if the two were related (seems likely though). Here is my buster session, you can see there is maybe 10% transparency on both the panel and menu...

For all of its settings (3 different shortcut managers, plus additional shortcut settings elsewhere, for instance), there is no panel transparency GUI. It will take hacking a kde system file.

Another oversight, IMO, is a lack of a notification timeout setting. A web search came up with this and it's working for me...

/usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.notifications/contents/ui/NotificationPopup.qml

Comment out line 55 and add another line, like so...

//notificationTimer.interval = notification.expireTimeout
        notificationTimer.interval = 30 * 1000
        notificationTimer.restart();
        //temporarly disable height binding, avoids an useless window resize when removing the old actions
        heightBinding.when = false;

I have it at 30, so 30 seconds. Make a copy of this file as it might get overwritten by a kde upgrade.

I'm hoping the panel transparency can be hacked as well.

hhh · 2018-07-25 23:23:06

A small issue, it looks like installing plasma installs appstream and apt-config-icons...

https://wiki.debian.org/DEP-11
https://packages.debian.org/buster/apt-config-icons
https://packages.debian.org/buster/appstream

These packages are useful for software GUI tools, like gdebi, synaptic, plasma-discover, etc... I manage packages via the terminal. I removed appstream as it slows down apt-update a bit. I was seeing apt search for DEP-11 bunsen icons 48x48 and 64x64. Not a big deal, but I thought I should mention it.

I am really enjoying plasma's session, it has been stable and quick. I love having a real session-manager again. Logout or reboot with a program open, by default that program should open with the next session.

hhh · 2018-07-25 23:56:06

I had a bit of a time with conky settings. I want background transparency but I do NOT want conky to disappear when I use my shortcut to minimize all apps and show the desktop. I created a file called plasma.conkyrc in ~/.config/conky with the following...

--[[ conky configuration
 ------------------------------
 For conky variables and commands use the terminal command:

 man conky

 ------------------------------
 BunsenLabs conky threads

 Index » Scripts, Tutorials & Tips » Conky - Calendars / Clocks / Time
 https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=516

 Open a thread and post conky questions in: Index » GUI & Applications
 https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewforum.php?id=4

 Display your completed conky and codes
 Index » Scripts, Tutorials & Tips » Show us your conky
 https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=512

 ------------------------------
 BunsenLabs conky scripts help
 Openbox Menu/Preferences/Conky/Conky Manager Help

 If there are one or more conkys running, it is possible to kill one conky with
 the following command, IF you used what is between the quotes to start the conky, e.g.:
 pkill -xf "conky -q -c $HOME/.config/conky/BL-Default.conkyrc"
]]


conky.config = {

--  Window Settings
    own_window = true,
    own_window_type = 'dock',
    own_window_transparent = false,
    own_window_hints = 'undecorated,below,skip_taskbar,skip_pager,sticky',
    own_window_colour = '000000',
    own_window_class = 'Conky',
    own_window_title = 'BunsenLabs Default Conky',

-- ARGB can be used for real transparency
own_window_argb_visual = true, -- Options: true|false

-- NOTE that a composite manager is required for real transparency and ARGB will not
-- work as desired (in most cases) in conjunction with 'own_window_type override'.
-- Use with: own_window_type = 'normal',
-- Use with: own_window_transparent = false,

-- When ARGB visuals are enabled, use the following to modify the alpha value. Valid
-- range is 0-255, where 0 is 0% opacity, and 255 is 100% opacity.
own_window_argb_value = 0,

    minimum_width = 200, minimum_height = 0,-- width | height
    maximum_width = 200,

    gap_x = 140,-- left | right
    gap_y = 320,-- up | down

    alignment = 'top_right',
--  End Window Settings


--  Font Settings
-- Use Xft (anti-aliased font and stuff)
    use_xft = true,

--font = 'Liberation Mono:bold:size=10',
--font = 'Liberation Sans:size=10',
    font = 'Sans-serif:size=9',

-- Alpha of Xft font. Must be a value at or between 1 and 0
    xftalpha = 1,

-- Force UTF8? requires XFT
    override_utf8_locale = true,

    uppercase = false,
--  End Font Settings


--  Color Settings
    draw_shades = false,
    default_shade_color = '000000',

    draw_outline = false,-- amplifies text if true
    default_outline_color = '000000',

default_color = '1CCCC2',
--    default_color = '678b8b', -- Beam green
--default_color = '656667', -- Waldorf original colour
--default_color = '7a7a7a', -- Flame  & BunsenLabs Grey
--default_color = '929292', -- BunsenLabs Grey
--default_color = 'C0C0C0', -- BunsenLabs Silver
    color0 = 'B0E0E6',-- PowderBlue
    color1 = '778899',-- LightSlateGray
    color2 = 'D8BFD8',-- Thistle
    color3 = '9ACD32',-- YellowGreen
    color4 = 'FFA07A',-- LightSalmon
    color5 = 'FFDEAD',-- NavajoWhite
    color6 = '00BFFF',-- DeepSkyBlue
    color7 = '5F9EA0',-- CadetBlue
    color8 = 'BDB76B',-- DarkKhaki
    color9 = 'C0C0C0',-- Silver
--  End Color Settings


--  Borders Section
    draw_borders = false,
-- Stippled borders?
    stippled_borders = 5,
-- border margins
    border_inner_margin = 5,
    border_outer_margin = 0,
-- border width
    border_width = 2,
-- graph borders
    draw_graph_borders = false,
--default_graph_height = 15,
--default_graph_width = 40,
--  End Borders Section


--  Miscellaneous Section
-- Boolean value, if true, Conky will be forked to background when started.
    background = true,

-- Adds spaces around certain objects to stop them from moving other things
-- around, this only helps if you are using a mono font
-- Options: right, left or none
    use_spacer = 'none',

-- Default and Minimum size is 256 - needs more for single commands that
-- "call" a lot of text IE: bash scripts
--text_buffer_size = 6144,

-- Subtract (file system) buffers from used memory?
    no_buffers = true,

-- change GiB to G and MiB to M
    short_units = true,

-- Imlib2 image cache size, in bytes. Default 4MiB Increase this value if you use
-- $image lots. Set to 0 to disable the image cache.
    imlib_cache_size = 0,

-- Use the Xdbe extension? (eliminates flicker)
-- It is highly recommended to use own window with this one
-- so double buffer won't be so big.
    double_buffer = true,

-- Maximum size of user text buffer, i.e. layout below TEXT line in config file
-- (default is 16384 bytes)
--max_user_text = 16384,

-- Desired output unit of all objects displaying a temperature. Parameters are
-- either "fahrenheit" or "celsius". The default unit is degree Celsius.
--temperature_unit = 'Fahrenheit',

-- Update interval in seconds
    update_interval = 1,

--  End Miscellaneous Section
};


conky.text = [[
${alignc}${nodename}

Uptime${alignr}${uptime_short}
RAM$alignr${mem} / ${memmax}
Swap${alignr}${swap} / ${swapmax}
Disk usage$alignr${fs_used /} / ${fs_size /}
#Root usage:$alignr${fs_used /} / ${fs_size /}
#Home usage:$alignr${fs_used /home} / ${fs_size /home}
CPU average${alignr}${cpu cpu0}%
#
# Weather information from openweathermap.org can be displayed in conky by
# using the script $HOME/.config/conky/scripts/bunsenweather.sh. The openweathermap
# service requires registration in order to receive an API Key, which has to be
# added to bunsenweather.sh. For further info see this script and the following thread:
# https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=2060
#
# Calling bunsenweather.sh from conky works by using
# ${execpi <t> /path/to/bunsenweather.sh "yourlocation"}
# where <t> is the update interval. If "yourlocation" is not defined, the script
# sets geolocation based on your IP adress using the website ipinfo.io.
#
#W E A T H E R
#${hr}
#${execpi 600 $HOME/.config/conky/scripts/bunsenweather.sh}
]];

Do not create an autostart entry for it in KDE if you are using the default session manager setting I mentioned above. Just run the file via a terminal and logout of the session while it's running (adjust the command to your user name and conky file)...

conky -c /home/rachel/.config/conky/plasma.conkyrc &

conky has disappeared a couple of times as I've been setting things up, just run the command again. It seems to be autostarting without fail now that I'm not changing settings in KDE's preferences.

The result should be a working conky in both KDE and Openbox using two separate conky files.

-edit- fixed conky typo that breaks it

Last edited by hhh (2019-04-23 02:48:21)

hhh · 2018-07-26 00:12:35

For wallpaper settings, use the KDE desktop GUI in plasma and either nitrogen or feh in Openbox. I'm using nitrogen ATM, but I have had it crap out on me for unknown reasons on other setups and have then used feh instead.

DeepDayze · 2018-07-26 02:06:29

hhh wrote:

A small issue, it looks like installing plasma installs appstream and apt-config-icons...
https://wiki.debian.org/DEP-11
https://packages.debian.org/buster/apt-config-icons
https://packages.debian.org/buster/appstream
These packages are useful for software GUI tools, like gdebi, synaptic, plasma-discover, etc... I manage packages via the terminal. I removed appstream as it slows down apt-update a bit. I was seeing apt search for DEP-11 bunsen icons 48x48 and 64x64. Not a big deal, but I thought I should mention it.
I am really enjoying plasma's session, it has been stable and quick. I love having a real session-manager again. Logout or reboot with a program open, by default that program should open with the next session.

For appstream there appears to be a bug that causes one of its daemons to leak memory and maybe that's where the slowness is coming from. Bug report here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=868785

hhh · 2018-08-24 01:08:21

Update... Install Dolphin file manager, then you can safely remove libpam-gnome-keyring and gnome-keyring. You might not even need to install Dolphin, but you'll need it if you want to use KDE Connect to link your Android device, it's a great feature.

-edit- Dangnabbit, I forgot. gvfs, you can remove all of it.

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 541#p75541

johnraff · 2018-08-24 01:39:37

Is there a KDE equivalent to gnome-keyring? It's also a very useful feature IMO.

vasa1 · 2018-08-24 02:48:25

I guess that would be kwalletmanager: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/kwalletmanager

johnraff · 2018-08-24 05:32:24

^Thanks.
Just found this:
GNOME-keyring KWallet integration?

DeepDayze · 2018-08-26 15:46:31

johnraff wrote:

^Thanks.
Just found this:
GNOME-keyring KWallet integration?

Seems that hasn't progressed for nearly 7 years...is there a mailing list for this project as it does sound interesting to be able to "meld" KDE and Gnome.

hhh · 2018-08-26 23:44:44

My KDE desktop melted (I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit... It's the only way to be sure) with yesterday's plasma upgrades on testing. The panel widgets didn't restart properly, right-click dekstop menu did nothing, search in klauncher and krun were dead and Enter woudn't even get recognized in them.

I was ready for it, testing has been getting on average 60 upgrades a day, and it will get even busier up til the start of the freeze, around the New Year.

I'll post back when buster is frozen.

Only way to be sure, name the movie.

exhales cigarette They can bill me!

DeepDayze · 2018-08-27 02:34:53

hhh wrote:

My KDE desktop melted (I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit... It's the only way to be sure) with yesterday's plasma upgrades on testing. The panel widgets didn't restart properly, right-click dekstop menu did nothing, search in klauncher and krun were dead and Enter woudn't even get recognized in them.
I was ready for it, testing has been getting on average 60 upgrades a day, and it will get even busier up til the start of the freeze, around the New Year.
I'll post back when buster is frozen.
Only way to be sure, name the movie.
exhales cigarette They can bill me!

Kde tends to break in spectacular ways when updates come out no doubt. Wait till new updates come in to hopefully fix the issues.

hhh · 2018-08-27 03:10:36

Dude, the desktop was so sweet. I can't wait for buster to hit freeze so I can try it again.

brontosaurusrex · 2018-08-27 14:00:50

hhh wrote:

My KDE desktop melted (I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit... It's the only way to be sure)

Aliens?

'When in doubt, C-4' < Mithbusters

DeepDayze · 2018-08-27 16:21:58

hhh wrote:

Dude, the desktop was so sweet. I can't wait for buster to hit freeze so I can try it again.

Yes it sure did look so good

Hopefully the next updates will resurrect it.

Last edited by DeepDayze (2018-08-27 16:22:23)

hhh · 2018-08-28 00:53:05

brontosaurusrex wrote:

hhh wrote:
(I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit... It's the only way to be sure)
Aliens?

Ellen Ripley FTW.

hhh · 2018-08-29 03:17:29

Fixed by dist-upgrading to sid...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 894#p75894

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