Enlightenment

verndog · 2018-06-08 14:58:36

There was some suggestions of what comes next after Wayland takes over. openbox is not supported. I have a suggestion: Enlightenment!

I just installed it on my arch linux. Its unusual to say the least. If i3 and openbox were to have a child it would be enlightenment

I wouldn't suggest bunsenlabs go the i3 route. There's a ton of distros doing that. I don't see a lot of enlightenment. Looking at Distowatch you can see that its offered on a lot of distros.

If you haven't used it, give it a try, and see for yourself. I'm just now in the process of learning it. It would definitely set bunsenlabs apart.

DeepDayze · 2018-06-08 16:43:41

Would be cool if there’s a snazzy BL enlightenment theme

brontosaurusrex · 2018-06-08 20:49:38

verndog: e22 or e17 or some other version?

verndog · 2018-06-08 23:48:48

It shows 0.22.3 Not sure what that means. Is it Enlightenment22?

Where are the forums for Enlightenment?

PackRat · 2018-06-09 00:23:07

That is enlightenment 0.22.3 - the current version; need enlightenment 0.20.0 or better to run in wayland. Support for wayland also needs to be compiled in - it's not by default (unless it's a recent change) so a lot of distro packages will not work with wayland. I think Bodhi and Sparky linux have it set up to work with wayland.

If you're running Sid, there a 3rd party repo for enlightenment you could add to your sources.list to get enlightment compiled to run with wayland.

The Bodhi site use to have a HowTo to compile enlightenment.

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PackRat · 2018-06-09 00:30:09

verndog wrote:

I just installed it on my arch linux. Its unusual to say the least. If i3 and openbox were to have a child it would be enlightenment

Did you run it in Wayland? I didn't think the Arch version had compiled wayland support in.

johnraff · 2018-06-09 00:42:31

(adds to TODO list...)

verndog · 2018-06-09 01:38:00

PackRat wrote:

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Did you run it in Wayland? I didn't think the Arch version had compiled wayland support in.

I don't know to be honest. I'm trying to figure out how to install sounds, and other packages that I need. Every google path just shows installing enlightenment, nothing else.

I was wondering if Wayland is running also. I will check. I doubt it since my older PC won't handle it.

PackRat · 2018-06-09 12:10:26

verndog wrote:

PackRat wrote:
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Did you run it in Wayland? I didn't think the Arch version had compiled wayland support in.
I don't know to be honest. I'm trying to figure out how to install sounds, and other packages that I need. Every google path just shows installing enlightenment, nothing else.
I was wondering if Wayland is running also. I will check. I doubt it since my older PC won't handle it.

Towards the end of their git page HowTo -

Enlightenment, when compiled with Wayland support and started from a tty,
will automatically attempt to load the wl_drm output module and start
a Wayland session. Simply start as usual:

enlightenment_start

That's how I ran in Wayland in Debian Sid - disable the login manager and boot to tty. If enlightenment is compiled with Wayland support, then "enlightenment_start" from the command line starts the window manager. If not, there is an error message along the lines "no compositor available".

Assuming Wayalnd is also installed, I don't know if it's brought in as a dependency with enlightenment.

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martix · 2018-06-09 13:21:36

There is also the distro Elive to try. It has also a live cd. It's based on Debian and it uses the Enlightenment window manager. And of course Bodhi, but it's Ubuntu based.

dolly · 2018-06-10 08:24:13

Can anyone suggest the benefits with Enlightenment?

ohnonot · 2018-06-10 10:12:27

well-developed, full eyecandy, well-coded if third party reports are to be believed, and still lightweight.
and they're well ahead with wayland support, more so than openbox definitely.
about whether the UX floats your boat or not, only you can answer that.
https://www.enlightenment.org/

PackRat · 2018-06-10 13:08:41

dolly wrote:

Can anyone suggest the benefits with Enlightenment?

Modular - can load/unload modules on the fly, like Fvwm
Fairly light on resources - slightly less than Xfce.
All in developing for Wayland.

verndog · 2018-06-11 02:07:26

PackRat wrote:

dolly wrote:
Can anyone suggest the benefits with Enlightenment?
Modular - can load/unload modules on the fly, like Fvwm
Fairly light on resources - slightly less than Xfce.
All in developing for Wayland.

Very light on resources. My install is the lightest of any distro I used.
The only complaint I have is the fonts on the left-click menu are small, also what's with the flashing when you hover over an icon. Can't figure that one out.

Colonel Panic · 2024-01-13 23:47:02

Thread bump.

I've just installed Enlightenment in a Ubuntu distro (Voyager) and I think it's still very usable but the online resources for it are very hit and miss; in particular, at least half the download sites linked to from the enlightenment-themes page don't work and it's a hassle sorting through them for the ones that do.

If you want to use Enlightenment, you're probably better off just downloading Bodhi instead.

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PackRat · 2024-01-14 00:36:23

Colonel Panic wrote:

If you want to use Enlightenment, you're probably better off just downloading Bodhi instead.

That's true.

For BL, going with labwc would be the route to go - https://labwc.github.io/index.html

Stable and highly compatible with openbox. User can basically drop in their existing configs. It's currently available in Sid repos.

@malm is the main developer; don't know if he still comes to this forum.

johnraff · 2024-01-14 03:11:19

PackRat wrote:

For BL, going with labwc would be the route to go - https://labwc.github.io/index.html
Stable and highly compatible with openbox. User can basically drop in their existing configs. It's currently available in Sid repos.
@malm is the main developer; don't know if he still comes to this forum.

@malm is still a team member, but his commitments to labwc seem to keep him occupied.

I am looking forward to the day when we switch to labwc on wayland, but that is still some way down the road.

Wayland is taking its time to reach maturity, and I see posts saying that this or that feature is now more-or-less good enough or the like. Personally I'd rather wait till changing to wayland brings some positive benefits for regular users, or makes life easier for BL devs, or else the plug has been pulled on X. See what Debian stable recommends by default...

Of course meanwhile it's great that people like you folks are pushing ahead and scouting out the traps hidden in the undergrowth.

hhh · 2024-01-14 03:34:10

IMO Wayland is developing quickly, but there are still too many legacy apps that are great but don't work well on Wayland. Video players, for instance.

I'm on (a minimal) Ubuntu GNOME 45.2, so throw them at me, I can test.

PackRat · 2024-01-14 03:50:55

johnraff wrote:

Personally I'd rather wait till changing to wayland brings some positive benefits for regular users, or makes life easier for BL devs, or else the plug has been pulled on X.

That's the main reason I haven't switched over to Wayland (I would go with sway and labwc). There's really no value added for me - other than using the latest gadget.

And @hhh is right; too many legacy/popular apps that just don't function well on Wayland.

johnraff · 2024-01-14 04:10:14

hhh wrote:

...still too many legacy apps that are great but don't work well on Wayland.

Is it up to the apps to cope, or will wayland eventually support them?

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