Microsoft Has Reportedly Reached A Deal To Acquire GitHub

johnraff · 2018-06-08 02:02:04

Jimbo_G wrote:

This is kinda interesting: https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/infra … ure/#azure

GitLab use MS software as well as Google servers... It's surely no different. Either just live with big corporations or do your own thing. (You'll miss all the community connection stuff though.)

martix · 2018-06-08 11:55:12

johnraff wrote:

Jimbo_G wrote:
This is kinda interesting: https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/infra … ure/#azure
GitLab use MS software as well as Google servers... It's surely no different. Either just live with big corporations or do your own thing. (You'll miss all the community connection stuff though.)

As described on that site GitLab uses Ubuntu LTS on their servers and in this respect they certainly do not use MS software. As for the MS cloud infrastructure Azure: That site is outdated. GitLab just abandoned Microsoft Azure. But even with Azure it's a different thing if a company is using a cloud infrastructure by MS or it is owned by MS.

I personally strongly disagree with the "Either just live with big corporations" statement. It's not hard to see why it's plain wrong on many levels to live with "come here, we have a great free service for you!"-big corporations in any case.

Also, coders won't miss all the community connection stuff. In fact it will become better than GitHub. Why? This MS-GitHub acquisition for git is similar to the Snowden revelations for secure communication (things like Signal, omemo, end-to-end encryption in general, etc. emerged after that). The development based on the ActivityPub protocol is in focus now (best thing that could happen). This will enable coders on gitea, gitlab, gogs, etc. to work together AND also to discuss from social media platforms that federate (#gitpub).

johnraff · 2018-06-09 01:04:57

GitLab abandoned MS Azure for Google Cloud.
GitHub is a big commercial entity. It will in the future be owned by a different commercial entity.
There used to be a git hosting company called Gitorious. It was since acquired by GitLab, another commercial entity. (The MS - GitHub takeover has nothing whatever to do with the privacy issues Snowden raises IMO.)

My computer, car, TV, apartment... were all made by commercial entities.

Some commercial entities provide free services, but they have a reason of course, and it's not philanthropy. Maybe they expect a certain percentage of users will be so happy with their service that they move up to a paid version, so the free version is a kind of advertising. Maybe they want to extract personal data and sell it to other companies. Maybe they just want to sell advertising and send it to you along with their service.

Consumers have to look at what's available on the market, and make intelligent choices (so of course it's very important to be aware of privacy issues etc).

You do have the option of living on the prairie, building a log cabin and growing your own food, if that life appeals to you.

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ohnonot · 2018-06-09 08:05:01

johnraff wrote:

You do have the option of living on the prairie, building a log cabin and growing your own food, if that life appeals to you.

yes, this just might become the online equivalent of my log cabin.

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martix · 2018-06-09 14:02:33

johnraff wrote:

The MS - GitHub takeover has nothing whatever to do with the privacy issues Snowden raises IMO.

It's not about data protection (privacy) issues (although it's also about that if someone thinks about M$ having an access to everyone's private projects), but more about the public awareness regarding the git infrastructure. In Snowden's case the majority of people simply did not care about using skype or whatever or agencies collecting everything about people. Now users at least know - and many of them also care - about these issues. This is why e.g. whatsapp tried to pretend doing it better with the buzzword "end-to-end" encryption. They're of course lying about protecting the users' data, this is why that whatsapp co-founder guy left FB. I do agree though that there is nothing wrong with making money with FOSS or offering services based on it, but it's certainly different from exploiting masses of users (data) based on dirty tricks like pixels, JS, supercookies or canvas fingerprinting (or using the spyware W10).

hhh · 2018-06-09 23:49:42

johnraff wrote:

You do have the option of living on the prairie, building a log cabin and growing your own food, if that life appeals to you.

I'm giving serious thought to it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAcwtGenavM

johnraff · 2018-06-10 02:39:06

martix wrote:

...lying about protecting the users' data...

You have to assume this about everyone IMO.

johnraff · 2018-06-11 02:31:52

Food for thought, even if you don't agree: Joey Hess: "the single most important criteria when replacing Github "
http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/the_single … ng_Github/

ohnonot · 2018-06-11 03:45:34

^ i and many have noted that a change to another platform means losing the "social" part - i for one meant that toinclude issues, although they're more than just socialising.
interesting point.

i paticularly liked the beginning: "Github's embrace and extend of git".
whether they did that on purpose or not, for most script kiddies github and git are the same thing.

johnraff · 2018-06-11 05:25:13

nobody also remarked on GitHub's issue and PR extensions of git and offered a tool to extract the data.

Somewhat preempted by Joey Hess' comment, I was just about to remark that the time to quit GitHub for good would be when MicroSoft started using an "improved" version of git. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_ … extinguish

johnraff · 2018-07-04 08:06:09

They're all just big corporations - all they really care about is money.
Why GitLab Is Moving From Azure to Google Cloud Platform

ohnonot · 2018-07-04 08:56:40

^ interesting detail:

That was important for a company that runs absolutely everything in the cloud. GitLab has no servers of its own, and before the migration to Google Cloud Platform began, everything it offers was hosted on Azure. The company also doesn't have a brick-and-mortar office; everyone works remotely.

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