[OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-13 07:42:51

batard wrote:

intel haswell

I have a Haswell laptop, I will test this later.

Thanks for the report!

rbh · 2018-03-14 12:55:57

rbh wrote:

On the two laptops the installer searched the CD and then went on

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

That error is usually seen after an incorrect image transfer with unetbootin being the most likely guilty party.
What method did you use?

Hmm, I think there was an misunderstanding. The error of not being able to mount sda, is that due to incorect iso-image?
I write the image to usb stick with dd. I didn't verify checksum after downloading thou. Will soon catch a train to Stockholm but in the weekend i can do that and test to write to a new usb-stick. But, I have never seen that message before...

When the two laptops "searched the CD and then went on", was when the installer should have made a connection to my locasl repository. Only the installer during instalation on Virtualbox VM, tried to do that (but hang). Never a problem with Debian isos.

rbh wrote:

the grubline:
[...] initrd=/install/initrd.gz
That must be leftover from the live environmnet.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

That's from /etc/default/grub and I think it may also be present in a stock Debian system (I will check later), it has no effect in an installed system anyway (there is no /install/initrd.gz).

I think I have seen it before on hydrogen. Not sure. The last year or so, when installing I have used the skript for installing from bare Debian. I have never seen it on an debianinstallation. IT is no vital flaw, and simple to erase the line in ../default/grubb, but it disturbs me a little bit...

Those three errors, is not vital to fix...

jesito · 2018-03-14 19:51:25

Installed Alpha-5/32 and Alpha-6/64 on two different machines without any glitch so far.
Now installing my toolset in both.
(Not installing Dropbox neither Java).

Last edited by jesito (2018-03-14 19:52:38)

Narmo · 2018-03-14 20:03:05

Installed 32bit version on Dell Latitude week or more ago and it works flawless, also is veeeeeeeeery nice looking

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-14 22:40:40

rbh wrote:

in Virtualbox i got this errors

VB support is patchy in Helium because Debian dropped the package for the current release, sorry about that.

Did not try to connect to my local reposity server [...] Never a problem with Debian isos

That is perplexing because we are using the upstream Debian installer so they should be the same.

the grubline

Yes, you're right, this must be a vestige of the live environment, I will look into it.

nederpils · 2018-03-15 16:33:12

Hi

I had almost given up waiting for the new bl release. I was afraid to face a similar situation when Philip decided not to continue. I gave archlabs a try ... a rolling release sounded tempting to me.

Anyway - archlabs is not for me for various reasons and so i did a test-drive on the alpha 6 iso in 64bit on my old trustworthy T510.

Up to now i found an issue whilst i was trying to reconfigure openbox via the openbox menu. Preferences, Openbox, Reconfigure. Just nothing happens.

Thunderbird was/is lagging. Don't know why. It's a plain install - just added enigmail.
I keep on exploring ...

Krisbee · 2018-03-15 16:46:26

My T420 laptop is used infrequently, but I installed helium-dev on it at the end of last year. It's a racehorse compared to win7 which is partly bogged down due to all the lenovo software.

Without a spare machine to test alpha6/64 iso, I resorted to virtual machines and have gone through the install of this iso and the bl-welcome in both BIOS and UEFI mode for these cases:

1. Virtualbox 5.2.8 running on Siduction Linux (debian unstable)
2. Qemu/KVM (virt-manager + omvf) running on Siduction Linux
3. Proxmox 5.1 (pve-manager/5.1-46/ae8241d4 (running kernel: 4.13.13-6-pve))

and rather less sane,

4. Helium as VM in FreeNAS using bhyve, with FreeNAS itself running as a VM in Proxmox.

As Helium is based on a tweaked debian installer it all behaves well using a basic "ext4/guided/allinone" install and I have used the expert install to force the grub-efi installation to the removable media path when necessary.

Not explored many nooks and crannies in helium as yet. I did notice a message about not being able to umount something flash past in one case, was that the same as "rbh"?

Default Helium settings look great and I found no bugs with the basic menu/program setup.

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johnraff · 2018-03-16 01:45:16

Those "umount" error messages at boot time have been with us since Hydrogen. They seem to be harmless.

johnraff · 2018-03-16 01:54:49

Hi rbh, thank you for your feedback.

rbh wrote:

I tried use Helium alpha 5 both i386 and 64 bit isos...
The last thing is the grubline:
[...] initrd=/install/initrd.gz
That must be leftover from the live environmnet.

We are looking at this issue now - did you find that unwanted grub line on the i386 or amd64 install, or both?
(If it was the i386 only, then we may have a fix.)

johnraff · 2018-03-16 01:57:26

nederpils wrote:

Preferences, Openbox, Reconfigure. Just nothing happens.

"Reconfigure" just makes openbox reload it's config files, so nothing dramatic should happen.
If you edit menu.xml, for example, you need to run Reconfigure in order to see your changes in the menu.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-16 07:50:48

johnraff wrote:

did you find that unwanted grub line on the i386 or amd64 install, or both?

I've seen those messages in an amd64 (QEMU) system, I considered them to be informational and inconsequential.

EDIT: I've nuked that system so I will have to reinstall and investigate again.

@rbh: can you please post the contents of /etc/fstab

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johnraff · 2018-03-16 09:14:33

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

johnraff wrote:
did you find that unwanted grub line on the i386 or amd64 install, or both?
I've seen those messages in an amd64 (QEMU) system, I considered them to be informational and inconsequential.

I was asking about the unwanted line in /etc/default/grub:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX initrd=/install/initrd.gz

If it appears in amd64 systems too, then rebuilding the i386 iso will not be a solution, so I can put it off till all the other tweaks are ready.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-16 09:41:02

^ yes, I meant /etc/default/grub

EDIT: let me check tonight.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2018-03-16 10:03:12)

pamir · 2018-03-16 20:40:27

can this forum give an estimate time of final release.

I am very kind and considerate to a great highly functional O/S.

with following the forum,could this be released soon, or later?

my kindest concerns as non active programmer but actively waiting.

I'm 39 years old and would use the finished product as the best in usability.

Using Kali Linux, with current Debian and really hate it, daily.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-16 20:45:03

@pamir, we can't give any firm dates but it will be very soon, I hope.

If I gave an actual date estimate here then I would consider that to be exerting unfair pressure on the rest of the Team, sorry.

alef · 2018-03-17 13:03:55

Installed Alpha-4 on a virtual machine yesterday (didn't notice there was an alpha-6 already).

Setup

Text install failed at "installing packages" step without giving much details about what was arong. I suspect this was caused by a disk too small (used auto partitioning).

GUI install ran smoothly.

Distro

Seems to be fast, responsive, lightweight. Aligned with crunchbang philosophy ?.

Directories names inside home directory would really be better with their first letter in small-case by default, for more convenient use from the terminal.

Minor things:

I really liked grayscale crunchbang theme, but the selected theme is still OK. Icon theme is pretty off though. Also, the following icon themes seem to contain exactly the same icons: Paper, Paper-Bunsen and Paper-Mono-Dark.

bl-exit styling seems really off. It's KDE style, bold, heavy. Not lightweight . Hope it's possible to customize its look. But that's not a big deal anyway.

Edit: The problem with bl-exit is not just the styling, but rather the usability. Shortcut keys cannot be discovered anymore (Alt-P to Power Off), whereas in current version of BunsenLabs the gtk-style makes it possible and obvious.

Good job guys, looking forward to install Helium on my machines - once it's ready.

Last edited by alef (2018-03-17 13:09:56)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-17 18:45:51

johnraff wrote:

I was asking about the unwanted line in /etc/default/grub:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX initrd=/install/initrd.gz

^ I can confirm that this also appears in amd64 systems, the installer even instructs the user to add it as a kernel parameter to get the system booting.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-17 18:49:01

batard wrote:

intel haswell

I've just installed a Helium-dev test system in my Intel Haswell laptop and when I tried Counter Strike it played very well indeed with their "video stress test" recording an average of ~104fps, which is almost as good as Windows on that hardware.

I can only guess that perhaps some packages failed to install in your system, were there any errors during the installation process?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-17 18:59:50

alef wrote:

Text install failed at "installing packages" step without giving much details about what was arong. I suspect this was caused by a disk too small (used auto partitioning).

It is possible to switch to the log screen with <Ctrl>+<Alt>+F4 — this will show all the output from the commands run by the installer and so may give you some clues as to what went wrong (if you ever try this again).

alef wrote:

Directories names inside home directory would really be better with their first letter in small-case by default, for more convenient use from the terminal.

That is handled by the xdg-user-dirs packge, to configure the directory names see the Creating custom directories section on this ArchWiki page:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XD … irectories

Alternatively, configure bash (or any other shell that uses readline) for case-insensitive tab-completion by creating a file at ~/.inputrc with this content:

set completion-ignore-case on

Note though that KornShell does not use readline.

alef wrote:

Icon theme is pretty off though

Would you care to be more specific? What exactly is "off" about the icons?

My apologies but I am too old now to follow the modern idiom

alef wrote:

the following icon themes seem to contain exactly the same icons: Paper, Paper-Bunsen and Paper-Mono-Dark.

The basic Paper set needs some alterations to blend with our desktop and that is what the -Bunsen version does.

Thanks for your feedback!

batard · 2018-03-17 23:04:03

I can only guess that perhaps some packages failed to install in your system, were there any errors during the installation process?

no bug during install .i have done the install several times and same result . perhaps my cd iso is compromised .
i ll try to get another iso and install again .

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