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#1 2017-05-01 16:49:06

Sector11
Mod Squid Tpyo Knig
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Registered: 2015-08-20
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Can't boot with USB

I've had this problem for a while now, have tried researching "startpaging" like there is no tomorrow, and nada, zip, zero.  sad

My bios is set to:

1. Boot other device
2. Boot CD Rom (DVD)
3. Boot WD500 HDD

The only things I have plugged into USB ports are, my mouse and Brother printer. See: gparted

Nothing else is plugged in, BUT I always get this:

 01 May 17 @ 12:38:53 ~
  $ sudo ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/*usb*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 May  1 11:01 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Edge_200608761118FA825D92-0:0 -> ../../sdc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 May  1 11:03 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-Sony_Storage_Media_AB071036428F156A07-0:0 -> ../../sdb
 
 01 May 17 @ 12:43:18 ~
  $

/etc/fstab:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>

#Entry for /dev/sda8 :
UUID=9c8f5b02-2631-4eee-afec-71c40f5ba863	/	ext4	errors=remount-ro	0	1
#Entry for /dev/sda10 :
UUID=02087316-2479-4716-8ac1-31bbe326f01b	/media/10	ext4	defaults	0	0
#Entry for /dev/sda5 :
UUID=3139da3e-24b0-4b50-ae55-59a9cf65635e	/media/5	ext4	defaults	0	0
#Entry for /dev/sda9 :
UUID=9f6ebf48-e240-4424-8224-604039145621	/home	ext4	defaults	0	2
/dev/sr0	/media/cdrom0	udf,iso9660	user,noauto	0	0
#Entry for /dev/sda3 :
UUID=d505d7c3-d985-4a30-b265-89f560c8efdc	none	swap	sw	0	0
 01 May 17 @ 13:16:39 ~
  $ sudo ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 10:58 ata-HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-H10L_K13E7OM1751 -> ../../sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 10:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817 -> ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 12:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part1 -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May  1 10:59 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part10 -> ../../sda10
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 12:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part2 -> ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 10:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part3 -> ../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 11:00 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part4 -> ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 10:59 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part5 -> ../../sda5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 12:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part6 -> ../../sda6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 12:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part7 -> ../../sda7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 10:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part8 -> ../../sda8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 10:59 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part9 -> ../../sda9
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 11:01 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Edge_200608761118FA825D92-0:0 -> ../../sdc
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 11:03 usb-Sony_Storage_Media_AB071036428F156A07-0:0 -> ../../sdb
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 10:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec -> ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 12:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part1 -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May  1 10:59 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part10 -> ../../sda10
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 12:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part2 -> ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 10:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part3 -> ../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 11:00 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part4 -> ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 10:59 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part5 -> ../../sda5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 12:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part6 -> ../../sda6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 12:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part7 -> ../../sda7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 10:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part8 -> ../../sda8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 10:59 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part9 -> ../../sda9
 
 01 May 17 @ 13:17:34 ~
  $

Would some kind person point me in the right direction to clear these non-existant USB devices.  Sorry, they exist, that are not plugged in.
Where is the " , " I am over looking?

I have:

4GB:
SanDisk_Cruzer_Edge
SanDisk_Cruzer_Blade

2x Sony_Storage_Media 8GB

Plugging them in one at a time: (gparted images)
Sony - 8GB - /media/sector11/108D9D5A26297ED9/ = Sony 8GB
Sony - 8GB - /media/sector11/Sony_8GM/ = https://scrot.moe/image/1noKC
SanDisk - 4GB - /media/sector11/SDC-4GB/ = https://scrot.moe/image/1npnj
--- hmmmm ejecting froze mouse and had to [Alt-F2] - [killall thunar]

EDIT:
Removed [SOLVED - Problem persists . can't boot from USB

Last edited by Sector11 (2017-05-03 17:56:09)

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#2 2017-05-01 17:02:13

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Re: Can't boot with USB

Sector11 wrote:

Would some kind person point me in the right direction to clear these non-existant USB devices.

Have you tried:

sudo rm /dev/disk/by-id/usb-* && reboot

What makes you think that these mystery files are responsible for the failure of your machine to boot from a USB stick?

Also, it would be remiss of me not to request full details of the method used to transfer the (unidentified) ISO image to the installation medium.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2017-05-01 17:03:48)

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#3 2017-05-01 17:10:17

Sector11
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From: Upstairs
Registered: 2015-08-20
Posts: 8,010

Re: Can't boot with USB

Total loss here ... system froze tighter than a ... well, it froze ... had to "panic button" reboot and look at this:

 01 May 17 @ 13:53:13 ~
  $ sudo ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 13:51 ata-HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-H10L_K13E7OM1751 -> ../../sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817 -> ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part1 -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part10 -> ../../sda10
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part2 -> ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part3 -> ../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part4 -> ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part5 -> ../../sda5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part6 -> ../../sda6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part7 -> ../../sda7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part8 -> ../../sda8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part9 -> ../../sda9
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec -> ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part1 -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part10 -> ../../sda10
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part2 -> ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part3 -> ../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part4 -> ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part5 -> ../../sda5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part6 -> ../../sda6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part7 -> ../../sda7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part8 -> ../../sda8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part9 -> ../../sda9
 
 01 May 17 @ 13:53:18 ~
  $

?

Plugging in the same SanDisk - 4GB
/media/sector11/SDC-4GB/ = https://scrot.moe/image/1nHuh

 01 May 17 @ 13:53:18 ~
  $ sudo ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
total 0
{snip}
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 13:55 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Edge_200608761118FA825D92-0:0 -> ../../sdb
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:55 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Edge_200608761118FA825D92-0:0-part1 -> ../../sdb1
{snip}
 01 May 17 @ 13:56:28 ~
  $

Now it unmounts and ejects just fine.

BUT - there is always a BUT: the stick is unplugged: (check the times of the two [ls] commands)

 01 May 17 @ 13:56:28 ~
  $ sudo ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
[sudo] password for sector11: 
total 0
{snip}
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 14:00 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Edge_200608761118FA825D92-0:0 -> ../../sdb
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 14:00 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Edge_200608761118FA825D92-0:0-part1 -> ../../sdb1
{snip} 
 01 May 17 @ 14:04:35 ~
  $

Any help appreciated.

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#4 2017-05-01 17:15:34

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Re: Can't boot with USB

Sector11 wrote:

had to "panic button" reboot

You may have corrupted your filesystem, that can happen after a very limited number of hard resets if you're not using a COW filesystem; you use ext4, right?

That filesystem will break pretty quickly if you don't unmount the drive before powering off.

Any help appreciated.

Open a terminal and run this command:

udevadm monitor

Then plug a USB stick in and unplug it again and post the full output that appears, thanks!

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#5 2017-05-01 17:18:52

Sector11
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From: Upstairs
Registered: 2015-08-20
Posts: 8,010

Re: Can't boot with USB

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Have you tried:

sudo rm /dev/disk/by-id/usb-* && reboot

No have not tried that, although as seen above the 'panic button reboot' cleared the errant USB stick.

What makes you think that these mystery files are responsible for the failure of your machine to boot from a USB stick?

Well, nothing really but since:

My bios is set to:
1. Boot other device
2. Boot CD Rom (DVD)
3. Boot WD500 HDD

and it will not boot from them so I'm checking everything.

Also, it would be remiss of me not to request full details of the method used to transfer the (unidentified) ISO image to the installation medium.

Same as always - but you are right in asking, thank you:
From my cheatsheet:

STEP 1 - CHECK THE md5sum, sha256sum or sha512sum before anything else once downloaded.
STEP 2 - Check where the USB stick is mounted:
COMMAND:
	$ sudo ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/*usb*

	WARNING: If <device> is /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdc1, /dev/sdd1, etc
	DO NOT use the " number " use only the letter: /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc etc
STEP 3a - USING  dd
COMMAND:
	sudo dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M;sync

EXAMPLE:
	sudo dd if=/media/10/BL_ISOs/live-image-i386-CD14.hybrid.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M;sync

Been using that since #! days.

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#6 2017-05-01 17:21:18

Sector11
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From: Upstairs
Registered: 2015-08-20
Posts: 8,010

Re: Can't boot with USB

NOTE: to self ... maybe reboot not needed:
EDIT: REBOOT is NEEDED!
Use: 

sudo rm /dev/disk/by-id/usb-* && reboot

as per HoaS' inscructions.

 01 May 17 @ 13:56:28 ~
  $ sudo ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
[sudo] password for sector11: 
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 13:51 ata-HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-H10L_K13E7OM1751 -> ../../sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817 -> ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part1 -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part10 -> ../../sda10
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part2 -> ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part3 -> ../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part4 -> ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part5 -> ../../sda5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part6 -> ../../sda6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part7 -> ../../sda7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part8 -> ../../sda8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part9 -> ../../sda9
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 14:00 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Edge_200608761118FA825D92-0:0 -> ../../sdb
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 14:00 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Edge_200608761118FA825D92-0:0-part1 -> ../../sdb1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec -> ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part1 -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part10 -> ../../sda10
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part2 -> ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part3 -> ../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part4 -> ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part5 -> ../../sda5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part6 -> ../../sda6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part7 -> ../../sda7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part8 -> ../../sda8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part9 -> ../../sda9
 
 01 May 17 @ 14:04:35 ~
  $ sudo rm /dev/disk/by-id/usb-*
[sudo] password for sector11: 
 
 01 May 17 @ 14:18:52 ~
  $ sudo ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 13:51 ata-HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-H10L_K13E7OM1751 -> ../../sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817 -> ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part1 -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part10 -> ../../sda10
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part2 -> ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part3 -> ../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part4 -> ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part5 -> ../../sda5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part6 -> ../../sda6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part7 -> ../../sda7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part8 -> ../../sda8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part9 -> ../../sda9
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec -> ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part1 -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part10 -> ../../sda10
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part2 -> ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part3 -> ../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part4 -> ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part5 -> ../../sda5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part6 -> ../../sda6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:58 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part7 -> ../../sda7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part8 -> ../../sda8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 13:51 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part9 -> ../../sda9
 
 01 May 17 @ 14:18:55 ~
  $

Thanks for the command HoaS.

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#7 2017-05-01 17:23:14

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Re: Can't boot with USB

sorry deleted

Last edited by unklar (2017-05-01 17:30:06)

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#8 2017-05-01 17:45:00

Sector11
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From: Upstairs
Registered: 2015-08-20
Posts: 8,010

Re: Can't boot with USB

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Sector11 wrote:

had to "panic button" reboot

You may have corrupted your filesystem, that can happen after a very limited number of hard resets if you're not using a COW filesystem; you use ext4, right?

Yes, ext4

That filesystem will break pretty quickly if you don't unmount the drive before powering off.

Normally I unmount and eject from thunar.
Just thought that since it was gone from -ls {OK learned something}

Open a terminal and run this command:

udevadm monitor

Then plug a USB stick in and unplug it again and post the full output that appears, thanks!

done:
command started,
stick plugged in
thunar opened - it's mounted,
unmounted and ejected in thunar
- - saw the command fill out sme more

Used a different USB stick though, first one is borked: only 10MB - on a 4GB stick.
(More research to see if I can recover it.)

 01 May 17 @ 14:37:35 ~
  $ udevadm monitor
monitor will print the received events for:
UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing
KERNEL - the kernel uevent

KERNEL[2788.925345] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10 (usb)
KERNEL[2788.925427] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0 (usb)
KERNEL[2788.926445] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host11 (scsi)
KERNEL[2788.926508] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host11/scsi_host/host11 (scsi_host)
UDEV  [2788.928801] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10 (usb)
UDEV  [2788.931056] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0 (usb)
UDEV  [2788.932032] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host11 (scsi)
UDEV  [2788.932799] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host11/scsi_host/host11 (scsi_host)
KERNEL[2789.925867] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host11/target11:0:0 (scsi)
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UDEV  [2789.931338] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host11/target11:0:0/11:0:0:0/scsi_disk/11:0:0:0 (scsi_disk)
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KERNEL[2789.934377] add      /devices/virtual/bdi/8:16 (bdi)
UDEV  [2789.935145] add      /devices/virtual/bdi/8:16 (bdi)
KERNEL[2789.952068] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host11/target11:0:0/11:0:0:0/block/sdb (block)
KERNEL[2789.952135] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host11/target11:0:0/11:0:0:0/block/sdb/sdb1 (block)
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UDEV  [2790.049054] add      /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host11/target11:0:0/11:0:0:0/block/sdb/sdb1 (block)
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KERNEL[2806.016647] remove   /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host11/target11:0:0/11:0:0:0/scsi_generic/sg2 (scsi_generic)
KERNEL[2806.016658] remove   /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host11/target11:0:0/11:0:0:0/scsi_device/11:0:0:0 (scsi_device)
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KERNEL[2806.017010] remove   /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-10/1-10:1.0/host11 (scsi)
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#9 2017-05-01 17:45:17

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Re: Can't boot with USB

unklar wrote:

sorry deleted

sad  Why?

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#10 2017-05-01 18:05:47

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Re: Can't boot with USB

Sector11 wrote:

first one is borked: only 10MB - on a 4GB stick

Try:

sudo apt install gdisk && sudo sgdisk --zap-all /dev/sdX

Replace X with the letter assigned to the USB stick, *do not* add a partition number.

This will completely clear any traces of a partition table and should let you re-format the stick with `gparted` (or whatever).

Anyway, your system looks normal now — do any USB entries in /dev now remove themselves along with the stick, as they should?

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#11 2017-05-01 18:46:55

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Re: Can't boot with USB

Let me do this a little at a time - I'm going crazy here.

I just plugged in the "10MB" 4GB stick, thunar opened it was mounted I checked the properties: YEA! 4GB (0% used), opened gparted BOO! 10MB - actual utterance made family acceptable.

mad mad mad mad mad

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Sector11 wrote:

first one is borked: only 10MB - on a 4GB stick

Try:

sudo apt install gdisk && sudo sgdisk --zap-all /dev/sdX

Replace X with the letter assigned to the USB stick, *do not* add a partition number.

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  1 15:26 usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Edge_200608761118FA825D92-0:0-part1 -> ../../sdb1

gdisk I already have

 01 May 17 @ 15:35:56 ~
  $ sudo sgdisk --zap-all /dev/sdb

***************************************************************
Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format
in memory. 
***************************************************************

Warning: The kernel is still using the old partition table.
The new table will be used at the next reboot.
GPT data structures destroyed! You may now partition the disk using fdisk or
other utilities.
 
 01 May 17 @ 15:36:39 ~
  $

Well, heck (made family safe) that was easy.

This will completely clear any traces of a partition table and should let you re-format the stick with `gparted` (or whatever).

Anyway, your system looks normal now — do any USB entries in /dev now remove themselves along with the stick, as they should?

OK, time to - unmount, eject and reboot.

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#12 2017-05-01 21:48:21

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Re: Can't boot with USB

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Anyway, your system looks normal now — do any USB entries in /dev now remove themselves along with the stick, as they should?

Didn't pick up on this earlier:  Yes, if I unmount them correctly, everything is working as advertised.

Thank you.

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#13 2017-05-02 06:55:12

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Re: Can't boot with USB

Sector11 wrote:
unklar wrote:

sorry deleted

sad  Why?

^ yes, I was wrongly based on the images with the fat32 file system not emanated from an ISO.


The deleted text read:

I do not understand the problem correctly (?)  :8

Linux file permissions do not work for fat32 (with ntfs with dislocations)

man blkid wrote:

Perform a garbage collection pass on the blkid cache to remove devices which no longer exist.

blkid -g

??

big_smile  wink

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#14 2017-05-02 13:24:40

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Re: Can't boot with USB

Still, I like the blkid -g - garbage collection command.  Thank you.

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Re: Can't boot with USB

OK, here I go again...

The problem persists, although there is no errant USB entry in:

ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/

anymore.

 03 May 17 @ 15:08:11 ~
  $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/
total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  3 14:48 ata-HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GSA-H10L_K13E7OM1751 -> ../../sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  3 14:48 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817 -> ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part1 -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May  3 14:48 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part10 -> ../../sda10
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part2 -> ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part3 -> ../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part4 -> ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part5 -> ../../sda5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part6 -> ../../sda6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part7 -> ../../sda7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part8 -> ../../sda8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 ata-WDC_WD5000AAKX-22ERMA0_WD-WCC2EMF62817-part9 -> ../../sda9
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 May  3 14:48 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec -> ../../sda
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part1 -> ../../sda1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 May  3 14:48 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part10 -> ../../sda10
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part2 -> ../../sda2
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part3 -> ../../sda3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part4 -> ../../sda4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part5 -> ../../sda5
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part6 -> ../../sda6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part7 -> ../../sda7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part8 -> ../../sda8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 May  3 14:48 wwn-0x50014ee2b39c6bec-part9 -> ../../sda9
 
 03 May 17 @ 15:08:14 ~
  $

I do think that the BIOS is set properly.  It looks like this with the "Bunsen Hydrogen" USB stick plugged in:

Advanced Setup

1st Boot Device - Removable Dev.
2nd Boot Device - HC-DT-ST-DVDRAM GSA
3rd Boot Device - WDC WD500AAKX-22ER

> Hard Disk Drives [Press Enter]
- - 1st Drive: WDC WD500AAKX-22ER
- - 2nd Drive: SanDisk Cruzer Blade

> CD/DVD Drives [Press Enter]
- - 1st Drive: HC-DT-ST-DVDRAM GSA

Boot Other Devices: Yes

Intregrated Periphals

USB Functions - Enabled
Legacy USB Support - Enabled

IF I disable HDD and CD/DVD (probably not necessary as it's empty) I can boot to the USB but I have never needed to do that before.

sad

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#16 2017-05-03 18:15:02

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Re: Can't boot with USB

> Hard Disk Drives [Press Enter]
- - 1st Drive: WDC WD500AAKX-22ER
- - 2nd Drive: SanDisk Cruzer Blade

This part doesn't seem right to me.  sad

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#17 2017-05-03 18:24:16

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Re: Can't boot with USB

Sector11 wrote:

IF I disable HDD and CD/DVD (probably not necessary as it's empty) I can boot to the USB

So is this thread now [SOLVED]? (Again)

My firmware ("BIOS") has degraded over time, the motherboard manufacturers seems to push out any old s***e, unfortunately hmm

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#18 2017-05-03 19:41:36

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Re: Can't boot with USB

Sector11 wrote:

Advanced Setup
...
Intregrated Periphals

???

This is under Boot   wink

example

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#19 2017-05-03 22:16:31

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Re: Can't boot with USB

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

So is this thread now [SOLVED]? (Again)

Nope.. but I'm ready to toss in the towel!

It still doesn't boot by plugging in a bootable USB and then rebooting.

Some BIOS Images:
Image 1, Image 2, Image 3 (large)

I'll have to "EDIT" the BIOS every time, to get the Bootable USB above the HDD ... so maybe like you said: "My firmware ("BIOS") has degraded over time, the mothe..." {sigh}

Here's what the Dard Drive area looks like and how I dedited it and the results when I tried "Live Session.

Starts with this, editing to look like this.

Rebooted and tried Live session that failed.

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#20 2017-05-04 06:24:20

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Re: Can't boot with USB

Replace the motherboard cmos battery, perhaps?

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