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#1 2017-02-09 17:08:37

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helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

(Mod. edit: Split from here.)

Decided to try the Helium-dev-netinstall script with 32-bit install to an old laptop. Downloaded the iso, cabled the internet connection and installed Debian. During the first session I noted that there were a message that said something like “packages could not be installed” and amongst them network-manager-gnome.

When finished, after reboot I had no network, it functioned very well during the install so I were a little bit disappoointed. Decided to do it all over again. When the script had finished the second time, I installed network-manager before rebooting.

LightDM greeted me both times and login works well. Then appears this message on the screen:

<Xsession: warning: xrdbcommand not found; X resources not merged.>

This message appears every time I log in, I just click on <okay> and it disappears.

The menu system seems intact to me, with pipes and everything.

The only applications present and working were nano, conky chooser, OB config manager, Nitrogen for choosing wallpaper and xterm. This is to my best recollection. I have manually installed with apt; Firefox, Leafpad, Terminator, Suckless-tools, and the firmware-b43-installer for wifi.

Shortcut commands works as normal after install of d-menu etc...

The bl-welcome script I had to start manually, and when I answered Y to enable “contrib” and  “non free” in the source.list it stopped. 

At this point I am a bit uncertain if I should redo it to see if I get the same result once more, or fill it it up with the missing applications. I want to retry once more, but the first step with the Debian install is so incredibly boring. I also have the option to try a 64-bit install. Will think about it some more before I decide.

In case someone of you have a problem with sleeping, there is the install.log in the link below. big_smile

http://pastebin.com/GMr3kUzv

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#2 2017-02-10 07:23:57

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

Thanks for testing, everybody smile

pastebin wrote:
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
 
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 network-manager-gnome : Depends: network-manager (>= 1.6) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Not sure why that happened, perhaps the mirror was a little slow updating the package list or something but that explains the networking problem.

I will have to try again later myself with bare metal, QEMU & virtualbox.

One potential problem here is that the stretch RC2 installer has no non-free images available (AFAIK) so there may be issues if your hardware requires blobs to work properly (mine doesn't).

Also, once the base stretch system is installed and before the bunsen-netinstall script is run, be sure to add the contrib & non-free components to /etc/apt/sources.list

EDIT: scratch that, I found the non-free ISO images:

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unof … d64/bt-cd/

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#3 2017-02-10 12:49:20

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

johnraff wrote:

dolly's case looks like something different. New thread?

Maybe some of the nice mods can decide? smile

Yesterday I left the laptop standing idle, and I got logged out. I had to go to tty1 to log in and reboot to get back to the desktop. That happened several times. Then I installed a bunch of applications. I just picked those from the menu, not everyone, but vlc, writer, geany, hex chat, file-roller etc. Looks like they work as it should, I have not had the time to test everyone of them, but in general things work.

Today there were no <X session: warning:...> sign when I logged in. After several reboots still no trace of it.

Installed pulseaudio for sound. Synaptic and printing stuff. The wireless function of the printer by the way worked OOTB. yikes

I will probably retry the whole operation next week, just to see how the script behaves. But since this laptop is quite low spec, I think that for more extensive testing it will probably be smart to change to another (64-bit) with more cpu and more RAM. Conky claims that my cpu is working very hard most of the time and judging by the sound of the fan that sounds like a jet taking off it is time to retire this machine for good. smile


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#4 2017-02-14 10:37:10

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

Tried the script a third time. The result were identical to the previous installations. Checked the source.list before running the script that it included "contrib" and "non free". Had to install network-manager before rebooting.

After reboot and logging in, there is this very spartan BL desktop, ready to be set up by me. I quite like it. big_smile


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#5 2017-02-14 11:41:34

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

dolly, that's so strange. Does your sources.list after install look OK? Can you do 'sudo apt-get update' (or upgrade) without any error messages?


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#6 2017-02-14 13:25:47

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

Yes, no problem;

dolly@debian:~$ sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[sudo] password for dolly: 
Hit:3 http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates InRelease         
Hit:1 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease   
Hit:2 http://eu.pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian bunsen-hydrogen InRelease
Reading package lists... Done                                      
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

And just to be clear;

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux stretch-DI-rc2 _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20170201-10:35]/ stretch main

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux stretch-DI-rc2 _Stretch_ - Official Snapshot i386 NETINST Binary-1 20170201-10:35]/ stretch main

deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch  main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch  main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates  main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates  main contrib non-free

I have manually installed firefox, terminator, geany and the firmware-b43-installer for wifi. Also I might add that I have used different mirrors with all three installs and got the same result. So... smile


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#7 2017-02-14 18:35:58

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

dolly wrote:

Tried the script a third time. The result were identical to the previous installations. Checked the source.list before running the script that it included "contrib" and "non free". Had to install network-manager before rebooting.

Did you see this message from the installer script again:

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:
 
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 network-manager-gnome : Depends: network-manager (>= 1.6) but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

NetworkManager was updated on the 25th of January so the mirror must be old.

The Debian redirector seems to be using the CDN mirror these days so you could try changing the sources to that before you run the bunsen-netinstall script, edit the file with:

sudo apt edit-sources

The entries should be:

deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch main contrib non-free
deb http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main contrib non-free
debdeb http://security.debian.org stretch/updates main contrib non-free

Just to be sure, please also post the exact URL from which you downloaded the Debian stretch RC2 installer ISO image and the command(s) or applications that you used to transfer the image to the installation medium.

Thanks for testing this smile


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#8 2017-02-15 08:42:10

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

Yes, the message about unmet dependencies for network-manager-gnome were there yesterday too.

Downloaded the iso from here;

https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

To a Sparky minimal gui #!/BL OpenBox pointing to unstable. Burned it to a r/w DVD with Xfburn. Will make one more try today with the source list from above. Thank you. smile

Normally I dd to usb when transferring isos, but they were occupied with other stuff at that moment. But should that really matter, I mean dvd or usb, if the download and the transfer is ok?


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#9 2017-02-15 10:29:52

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

Installed the Debian base, all went well. Changed the source.list accordingly to what Head_on_a_Stick suggested above, except from the typo in the third line. wink

The result was the same as earlier for network-manager-gnome unmet dependencies etc...

So before rebooting, I installed network-manager manually. At the first reboot I were welcomed by this;

Xsession: warning: xrdbcommand not found; X resources not merged

Clicked okay and it disappeared. Installed terminator, geany, firefox and firmware-b43-installer for wifi. Rebooted.

Now there were no X session warning. Connected to the wifi with nmtui, and all is smile

I do not know what is wrong, or what I am doing wrong. Any suggestions welcome. smile


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#10 2017-02-15 19:35:32

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

The images you have downloaded are the official versions and so have no non-free packages installed.

There are unofficial images available that already include the non-free firmware that is required for your machine:

http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimag … 386/bt-cd/

dolly wrote:

The result was the same as earlier for network-manager-gnome unmet dependencies etc...

So before rebooting, I installed network-manager manually.

So the script failed to install NetworkManager but `apt install network-manager-gnome` worked just fine afterwards?

That makes no sense at all and I cannot reproduce your issues either in the virtual environment or in an actual installation.

I have no idea why that won't work for you, sorry.


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#11 2017-02-16 14:39:36

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

There might be a little misunderstanding here. Sorry. smile

I installed network manager;

dolly@debian:~$ apt-cache policy network-manager
network-manager:
  Installed: 1.6.0-1
  Candidate: 1.6.0-1
  Version table:
 *** 1.6.0-1 500
        500 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch/main i386 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Not the one with the gnome appendix;

dolly@debian:~$ apt-cache policy network-manager-gnome
network-manager-gnome:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.4.4-1
  Version table:
     1.4.4-1 500
        500 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch/main i386 Packages

And I had the non free in my source list before running the script. There is a choice in the expert installation if I am not mistaken to enable them. I am pretty sure I did just that, anyway before I ran the script last time, I checked and corrected my source list according to the suggestion made by Head_on_a_Stick. smile

Ok, I will leave this for now, I got a running 32-bit version of "Helium", and I am in fact posting from it. I have installed a bunch of the usual applications from the menu system, and things seems ok. My plan is to keep it for a while and d-u it and see what happens. Maybe even use it for some entertainment and testing tasks. Nothing serious, will report here if something goes #! of course.

But what is this warning that I got the after the first login?;

X session: warning: xrdbcommand not found; X resources not merged

And that were gone after installing Terminator, Firefox, Geany, Thunar also maybe, plus wifi drivers and a reboot.

I hope to get some time and inspiration to test the script on a 64-bit machine that I have saved for the stable release really, might just have a taste of the fun while I am waiting. I hope this covers most of it.

Thanks for all the work you put into it guys. Appreciate it. smile


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#12 2017-02-16 20:00:53

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

dolly wrote:

Not the one with the gnome appendix;

But you can actually install network-manager-gnome, yes?

Anyway the version of network-manager that you have installed manually is the exact same one that the script fails to find hmm

But what is this warning that I got the after the first login?;

X session: warning: xrdbcommand not found; X resources not merged

LightDM uses the `xrdb` command from the x11-server-utils package to load the X resources, that package must also have been "lost" by your errant installation script.

It must have been pulled in as a dependency when you manually installed some of the missing packages.

EDIT: this will install everything in BunsenLabs:

sudo apt install bunsen-meta-all

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#13 2017-02-17 09:48:11

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
sudo apt install bunsen-meta-all

Thank you Head_on_a_Stick, I feel quite ops right now.

Anyway, here is;

dolly@debian:~$ sudo apt install network-manager-gnome
[sudo] password for dolly: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
network-manager-gnome is already the newest version (1.4.4-1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
dolly@debian:~$ sudo apt install network-manager
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
network-manager is already the newest version (1.6.0-1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
dolly@debian:~$ sudo apt install obmenu
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 obmenu : Depends: python-support (>= 0.90.0) but it is not installable
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

I hope obmenu will be  installable to release time, manual menu editing sucks! smile


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#14 2017-02-18 10:08:11

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

dolly wrote:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 obmenu : Depends: python-support (>= 0.90.0) but it is not installable

The python-support package is only needed for the jessie version of obmenu, your sources must be b0rked.

Please post the output of:

apt-cache policy

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#15 2017-02-18 10:21:30

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

dolly@debian:~$ apt-cache policy
Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     release a=now
 500 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages
     release o=bunsenlabs,n=bunsen-hydrogen,l=bunsenlabs,c=main,b=i386
     origin pkg.bunsenlabs.org
 500 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch/non-free i386 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=testing,n=stretch,l=Debian,c=non-free,b=i386
     origin cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org
 500 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch/contrib i386 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=testing,n=stretch,l=Debian,c=contrib,b=i386
     origin cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org
 500 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch/main i386 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=testing,n=stretch,l=Debian,c=main,b=i386
     origin cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org
Pinned packages:

That is the only one that did not get pulled in by bunen-meta-all. As far as I know. smile


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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

How about:

apt-cache policy obmenu
aptitude why-not obmenu

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#17 2017-02-19 08:23:03

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

dolly@debian:~$ apt-cache policy obmenu
obmenu:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.0-5
  Version table:
     1.0-5 500
        500 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages
     1.0-4 500
        500 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch/main i386 Packages
dolly@debian:~$ aptitude why-not obmenu
Not currently installed
The candidate version 1.0-5 has priority extra
No dependencies require to remove obmenu

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

dolly wrote:
dolly@debian:~$ apt-cache policy obmenu
obmenu:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 1.0-5
  Version table:
     1.0-5 500
        500 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages
     1.0-4 500
        500 http://cdn-fastly.deb.debian.org/debian stretch/main i386 Packages

Thank you very much for reporting this, there appears to be an error with the obmenu package — we have a newer version in the BunsenLabs repository than is available even in Debian sid, I have no idea why and I will investigate this more.

For now, you can install obmenu by using:

sudo apt install --target stretch obmenu

EDIT: opened a Bug Report about this issue:

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=3365

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#19 2017-02-20 01:43:09

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

I haven't yet checked the Stretch version of obmenu but I'm pretty sure it still has the bug which was the reason it was patched in CrunchBang and then in BL. It doesn't support the current standard syntax for commands: <command>...</command>

So I'd recommend managing without obmenu for now, till we have a BL Stretch version available.


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#20 2017-02-21 18:47:45

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Just for the record. Tried to run the script (32-bit install) on a different machine, to check. The script stranded once again on the "network-manager-gnome" thing. Aborted it. Will now continue with 64-bit. smile


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#21 2017-02-21 20:21:28

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

Installed Debian Stretch base, 64-bit. Downloaded the script and started it. It stopped once again at network-manager-gnome. Aborted the script and installed network-manager manually. Restarted the script, and now it just worked as it is supposed to do. No problems, no error messages, just smooth as helium.

Can I mark this as pseudo solved now? big_smile


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#22 2017-02-21 21:18:16

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Let's leave this open for now. As the script is johnraff's, I'll bet he'll want to take another look.

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#23 2017-02-22 00:55:39

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

dolly wrote:

The script stranded once again on the "network-manager-gnome" thing.

I don't understand this. It's possible to install network-manager-gnome manually right?

Could you check out ~/.cache/bunsen-netinstall-logs/install.log and post the part where it sticks with network-manager-gnome?


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#24 2017-02-22 08:34:59

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

Well yes, I installed "network-manager" manually when the script stranded, without the gnome thing. But since I aborted and restarted the script immediately after the network-manager install, there is no log of it. If there is I can not see it in ~/.cache/bunsen-netinstall-logs/install.log.

As far as I can remember, the error message were just as it is in post #2 by Head_on_a_Stick of this thread. It is from a previous install when the same thing happened. Not much info there though.

Will run the script once more in VBx to see if it happens again. smile


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#25 2017-02-22 09:04:28

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Re: helium-dev netinstall - missing packages

Did a check with an install in VBx, no problem with network-manager-gnome, or anything else really. It worked flawlessly.

Weird.  hmm


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