Thunar Device labels stuck, Bookmarks missing in "save as" dialogue

seul · 2016-12-31 12:00:02

ISSUE 1:

I mount external and internal partitions through veracrypt. In #! Thunar would just display the mount points as labels ("DATA" for /media/DATA or "BACKUP" for /media/BACKUP etc.). In BL this does not happen – or rather, the labels got stuck at some point.

I did mount a 3TB external HD and it now keeps showing as "2.7 TB volume" even though I created two smaller partitions in the meantime. My internal Data-partition keeps showing as "DATA" even though I now mount it as /media/INDATA.

Strangely, when I run Thunar as root, the labels are correct. Google did not help as the suggestion usually is to relable through gparted, which I a) don't want because I just want Thunar to reflect the mount points and b) isn't applicable anyway because of veracrypt, if I am not mistaken.

ISSUE 2

I made many bookmarks in Thunar, but when I get the "save as" dialogue (saving from the internet or an email attachment), only one of the bookmarks show (the first one I created).

Did Thunar become stuck in time? How can I unstick it?

Thanks!

Last edited by seul (2016-12-31 12:00:56)

ohnonot · 2017-01-02 05:52:30

it does sound a little like some config went corrupt.
if you rename thunar's config files & folders and start from zero, does that fix things?

seul · 2017-01-02 17:46:07

Thanks ohnonot, I tried renaming

 ~/.local/share/Thunar/sendto/moveup.desktop

and

 ~/.config/Thunar/uca.xml

nothing happened.

Also did

 locate thunarrc

and

 find ~ -iname thunarrc*

as suggested here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1249179

locate only gave me

 /usr/share/doc/thunar-data/README.thunarrc.gz

and find gave me nothing.

Any idea of other places to look? Will also try reinstalling it.

ohnonot · 2017-01-03 08:55:20

no, i meant move ALL of thunar's (and maybe even XFCE) configs out of the way!
the UF thread is from 2009, hardly helpful anymore in 2017!

ok, firing up my bl vm... no, the bl vm don't work, using xubuntu instead:
~/.config/Thunar
~/.config/xfce4
~/.cache/sessions (and possibly other stuff in .cache - basically you can delete everything in there without harm)
possibly sth in ~/.local/share/ as well

all these are folders.
rename them, and see if it fixes things.
if it does, move them back ONE BY ONE until you find the culprit.
if it doesn't, you can also try this:
log out from bunsenlabs, change to a tty, log in, rename those folders by e.g. appending a '~' to the name, log back in from tty7.

seul · 2017-01-04 15:48:07

It did not change much. Default view is back to Icons instead of Detailed list and the devices I had hidden are visible again. Labels are still stuck, though.

But I think you are on to something with the xfce4-folder. It probably is not a Thunar issue because in Nautilus the labels are the same, PLUS I only have the one first bookmark I created which is also the one that appears in the save-as dialogue.

seul · 2017-01-12 11:14:31

I found the culprit for issue 2, and that is nautilus. Apparently nautilus has two places where it stores bookmarks (see here):

$HOME/.gtk-bookmarks (Ubuntu 12.04)

$HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks (Ubuntu 14.04)

I had both. renaming "bookmarks" solved issue 2. renaming .gtk-bookmarks removed all bookmarks from thunar but not from nautilus.

I take it Thunar somehow relies on the old location for nautilus bookmarks and nautilus defaults to the new one but in case it is missing, it copies .gtk-bookmarks to bookmarks if present?

Don't really understand it..

ohnonot · 2017-01-13 07:33:45

i think indirectly installing nautilus can also have caused issue nr. 1, by pulling in gnome dependencies and doing god knows what to device management.
do you even still know what is managing your desktop? nautilus or xfdesktop?

this sort of extra information really would have belonged into post #1.

PS:
it is possible to symlink $HOME/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks to $HOME/.gtk-bookmarks.

seul · 2017-01-13 09:10:53

Honestly, no I do not know. I don't even know how nautilus ended up on the machine, it probably came for free with some other programme I installed. I did notice that somehow when installing one thing, a whole lot of other stuff usually gets shoved onto the machine, maybe even some kde thing manages my desktop now because I use kile for LaTeX? Yes, maybe god knows. If I had known I would have put it into post #1, but I only found out trying to resolve this and then I did mention it on Jan 4th.
Not really part of this thread but while we're at it, is there a way to avoid this wholesale installation?

For now symlink isn't necessary because somehow when I add a bookmark in Thunar it now also appears in nautilus, but maybe I should just remove nautilus altogether because I don't need it anyway.

EDIT: purged everything that smelled of nautilus, but back to issue #2 now. really weird.

Last edited by seul (2017-01-13 09:16:36)

damo · 2017-01-13 09:22:34

seul wrote:

....
Not really part of this thread but while we're at it, is there a way to avoid this wholesale installation?
....

A simple way is to use the "-s/--simulate" switch with your apt-get command, which will show what packages would be installed. Also consider "--no-install-recommends".

seul · 2017-01-13 09:31:54

Thanks! "--no-install-recommends" sounds very good!

#1 2016-12-31 12:00:02

Thunar Device labels stuck, Bookmarks missing in "save as" dialogue

#2 2017-01-02 05:52:30

Re: Thunar Device labels stuck, Bookmarks missing in "save as" dialogue

#3 2017-01-02 17:46:07

Re: Thunar Device labels stuck, Bookmarks missing in "save as" dialogue

#4 2017-01-03 08:55:20

Re: Thunar Device labels stuck, Bookmarks missing in "save as" dialogue

#5 2017-01-04 15:48:07

Re: Thunar Device labels stuck, Bookmarks missing in "save as" dialogue

#6 2017-01-12 11:14:31

Re: Thunar Device labels stuck, Bookmarks missing in "save as" dialogue

#7 2017-01-13 07:33:45

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#8 2017-01-13 09:10:53

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#9 2017-01-13 09:22:34

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#10 2017-01-13 09:31:54

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