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#1 2016-12-16 09:14:29

TeoBigusGeekus
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Microsoft Office Ribbon UI Is Coming to LibreOffice

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/12/micr … ibreoffice

Making migration from MS Office to LibreOffice much easier.

...and it's optional as well: win-win


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#2 2016-12-16 11:12:39

iMBeCil
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From: Edrychwch o'ch cwmpas
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Re: Microsoft Office Ribbon UI Is Coming to LibreOffice

I never really understood this ribbon cr*p ... First it reduces viewing area. Second, it does it vertically-wise, on monitors which tend to be much wider than higher. It would be much more logical to put these ribbons on the left or right side ...

I just hope that LO will leave option to revert to traditional(?) toolbar-like setup.


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#3 2016-12-18 08:39:33

dolly
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Re: Microsoft Office Ribbon UI Is Coming to LibreOffice

^Yes, you could not have said it bettter, I agree completely with you. smile

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#4 2016-12-18 19:35:31

nore
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Re: Microsoft Office Ribbon UI Is Coming to LibreOffice

iMBeCil wrote:

First it reduces viewing area.

Double click, and you don't have to look at it until you need it again.

TeoBigusGeekus wrote:

optional

I hide all toolbars in LO anyway.

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#5 2016-12-18 19:40:41

nore
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Re: Microsoft Office Ribbon UI Is Coming to LibreOffice

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Dev … otebookBar

The goal is to provide an alternative (optional) interface which unifies all the different toolbars and groups them in tabs.

Tabs don't sound like bad design.

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#6 2016-12-18 20:06:02

iMBeCil
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From: Edrychwch o'ch cwmpas
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Re: Microsoft Office Ribbon UI Is Coming to LibreOffice

nore wrote:
iMBeCil wrote:

First it reduces viewing area.

Double click, and you don't have to look at it until you need it again.

But, it defies its purpose, doesn't it? I mean, to have to access certain function, you have to double click it and then click on wanted function ... and then double click it again to hide ribbon? <meme mode>But why?</meme mode> Usability level zero.  ]:D

But, I'm sure there are people who like those ribbons. And I don't want to make this thread a pointless discussion about different opinions and user preferences ... So, be it as it is. Who likes ribbons, use them. For me ... I was happy when I discovered that pressing F2 key (instead of moving hand away from the keyboard and double clicking on mous, and again returning hand to keyboard) in LO Calc will put me in the cell edit mode cool big_smile


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#7 2016-12-18 21:10:54

TeoBigusGeekus
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Re: Microsoft Office Ribbon UI Is Coming to LibreOffice

I don't use MS Office (replaced it with LibreOffice some years ago), but I use Autocad which has adopted the ribbon interface.
Back then I used to fight it and tried to convert Civil 3D to the old interface, menus and buttons, up until I got tired and decided to give the ribbon a chance.
Now, I don't now if it is the power of habit, but I wouldn't go back; with the ribbon everything is organized neatly and I know where to find it as similar commands occupy the same tab.
It can be frustrating sometimes when you have to switch tabs for two consecutive but unrelated commands, but the latter scenario has made me use the command line much more, ie. call the commands by typing them, instead of clicking on them.
Personally, I would like at least to test a LibreOffice ribbon before condemning it to hell.


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#8 2016-12-19 13:32:41

nore
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Re: Microsoft Office Ribbon UI Is Coming to LibreOffice

iMBeCil wrote:

you have to double click it and then click on wanted function ... and then double click it again to hide ribbon?

No, one click is enough for opening it, and ribbon goes out of the way after you choose a command. Or use  keyboard instead, that's what I do most of time.

I'm not a big fan of current or any past MS Office versions, but they are not totally unusable either. They are by far the best products Microsoft ever made.

TeoBigusGeekus wrote:

Personally, I would like at least to test a LibreOffice ribbon before condemning it to hell.

You said it.

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#9 2016-12-19 14:49:48

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Re: Microsoft Office Ribbon UI Is Coming to LibreOffice

Quick try. For a 'twice a year' kind of a user this is as confusing as before (but no more).

Last edited by brontosaurusrex (2016-12-19 15:10:22)

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#10 2017-01-04 11:46:42

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Re: Microsoft Office Ribbon UI Is Coming to LibreOffice

brontosaurusrex wrote:

Quick try. For a 'twice a year' kind of a user this is as confusing as before (but no more).

Exactly. If it's easy to switch back to the old way, it's all good. This is what MS didn't do with Office 2007.

What I think they would do well with is removing some of the graphical features. Lots of it looks horribly dated. It keeps the project looking amateurish, when it isn't.

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#11 2017-01-04 12:18:47

ohnonot
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Re: Microsoft Office Ribbon UI Is Coming to LibreOffice

honestly? i think that ms office ribbon isn't so bad, certainly more "intuitive" or "user-friendly" than piles of toolbars, or cryptic submenus. but from bronto's screenshots it looks like LO implemented it only half-heartedly.

anyhow, i was a once-a-week user for a long time, but since i finished my vocational training (yay!) i'm back to twice-a-year i guess... oh, and my libreoffice-still 5.1.6-4 doesn't have the ribbon yet.

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