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#1 2015-10-10 08:05:06

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Behaviour of forum

This is a little annoyance / gripe I have with how the forum software operates, was true back at #! too:

Having it highlight "New posts since last visit" is all well and good, and quite handy when it works, some of us are subject to many interruptions, this causes the (stupidly short) login timeout to come into play, then you log back in.. and have no idea what you've read and what you have not.

I would personally rather the behaviour was as per many other boards, where topics with unread posts remained marked that way until you either read them, or explicitly clicked "mark all topics read".

Happened to me 4 times in the last 24 hours and GRRRRRRRR


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#2 2015-10-10 08:33:04

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Re: Behaviour of forum

Old gripe of mine as well.  I'll raise this with the rest of the moderadmin team and see if there's something we can do.


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#3 2015-10-10 09:43:08

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Re: Behaviour of forum

Thanks for raising the question Bearded_Blunder. This is really something that would be a big help if fixed.


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#4 2015-10-10 12:00:20

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Re: Behaviour of forum

I remember a thread concerning this from the other forum, but not the details. Is the persistent login not working for you?


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#5 2015-10-11 11:07:08

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Re: Behaviour of forum

Bearded_Blunder wrote:

the (stupidly short) login timeout

i agree with this.

apart from that, lightweightness always has a price (you can't have fully-featured and lightweight at the same time), and FluxBB is very lightweight. i'm willing to cope with it.

but i would love tobe able to subscribe to topics without posting to them.

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#6 2015-10-11 11:26:30

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Re: Behaviour of forum

ohnonot wrote:

but i would love tobe able to subscribe to topics without posting to them.

You can smile

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FluxBB is in no way a "lightweight" forum.  It's not the kitchen sink approach of the big two but it's definitely not lacking in features, bells and whistles either.


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#7 2015-10-11 11:55:46

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^ i'm sorry i didn't elaborate.
i was talking about a feature i know from other forum softwares, where you automatically subscribe to threads you posted in, and usually click the "subscribed threads" button after login (instead of "Posted"). This is not possible with FluxBB - The only way to get notified of changes to subscribed threads is via email (same on e.g. archlinux forums).

in any case i consider raising the login timeout to be more important.
security is all good, but the low timeout value is impractical imho. it has happened several times that i clicked on a link and read an article, only to come back to the forums and my login timed out. iirc, it's less than 1 hour atm. i can see how raising it too much would be unsafe, but anything -le 12h should be ok, no? this is not online banking.

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#8 2015-10-11 14:22:54

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Re: Behaviour of forum

schwim wrote:
ohnonot wrote:

but i would love tobe able to subscribe to topics without posting to them.

You can smile

This had me confused until I realized that whether the "Subscribe to this topic" link is displayed or not depends on the selected forum style.  While the "Hydrogen" and "Crunchbang" styles do show this link, the "CrunchbangTwoion" style does not - the link area is totally blank!

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#9 2015-10-11 14:56:16

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Zill wrote:
schwim wrote:
ohnonot wrote:

but i would love tobe able to subscribe to topics without posting to them.

You can smile

This had me confused until I realized that whether the "Subscribe to this topic" link is displayed or not depends on the selected forum style.  While the "Hydrogen" and "Crunchbang" styles do show this link, the "CrunchbangTwoion" style does not - the link area is totally blank!

It depends solely on whether or not you are using CBTwoion. As I have mentioned elsewhere, this style removes stuff I want to get out of my view, and a couple of links fall into this category. I never subscribe to topics.

Perhaps I should remove the style from the selection list altogether and put it on userstyles.org in its entirety?


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#10 2015-10-11 15:26:38

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twoion wrote:

Perhaps I should remove the style from the selection list altogether and put it on userstyles.org in its entirety?

That might be better, as it is a personal style.


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#11 2015-10-11 16:10:17

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twoion wrote:

... Perhaps I should remove the style from the selection list altogether and put it on userstyles.org in its entirety?

"CrunchbangTwoion" is actually my preferred style for the forums. smile

I just hadn't realized until today that the subscription link was missing...

Would it still be possible to use this as a forum style if it is on userstyles.org?  I don't see any option to select a style from an external site.

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#12 2015-10-11 16:11:56

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^ Perhaps twoion could keep his preferred style on userstyles.org and then put the expected behaviors back in for CBTwoion style.

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#13 2015-10-11 16:34:34

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Zill wrote:
twoion wrote:

... Perhaps I should remove the style from the selection list altogether and put it on userstyles.org in its entirety?

"CrunchbangTwoion" is actually my preferred style for the forums. smile

I just hadn't realized until today that the subscription link was missing...

Would it still be possible to use this as a forum style if it is on userstyles.org?  I don't see any option to select a style from an external site.

It would be: Select the #! style here and add a user style via Stylish (or so) from userstyles.org.


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#14 2015-10-11 16:40:35

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twoion:  OK - thanks for that.  I don't normally get too involved with styles and so didn't know much about the Stylish add-on.

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#15 2015-10-11 17:00:27

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I have fixed some issues with #! Twoion now here on BL. The subscribe link is now visible.


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#16 2015-10-11 17:08:54

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twoion:  Yep!  After reloading the style, subscribe/unsubscribe works fine here.  Many thanks. smile

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#17 2015-10-11 23:36:18

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Re: Behaviour of forum

ohnonot wrote:

a feature i know from other forum softwares, where you automatically subscribe to threads you posted in, and usually click the "subscribed threads" button after login (instead of "Posted"). This is not possible with FluxBB

It's there, but you have to go to your "Profile" to find it. At the bottom of the "Essentials" page there's a "Show all subscriptions" link which points to https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/search.ph … s&user_id=your_id_number
You could use that to put a shortcut in your browser.


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#18 2015-10-12 02:22:20

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twoion wrote:

I have fixed some issues with #! Twoion now here on BL. The subscribe link is now visible.

Ty for that, though I never use it, sadly you've introduced a new issue at the same time, the

Index » Development & Suggestions » Behaviour of forum  Pages: 1

navigation links are now missing at the bottom, meaning you have to scroll all the way up to the top to use them, and that navigation I do use all the time.

That's annoying enough I've had to switch themes for the time being.


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#19 2015-10-12 07:18:02

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Re: Behaviour of forum

ohnonot wrote:

in any case i consider raising the login timeout to be more important.
security is all good, but the low timeout value is impractical imho. it has happened several times that i clicked on a link and read an article, only to come back to the forums and my login timed out. iirc, it's less than 1 hour atm. i can see how raising it too much would be unsafe, but anything -le 12h should be ok, no? this is not online banking.

it has happened again!
i even lost the post i was typing atm.

and it's definitely less than 1h - maybe 30min?

this is an official request now:

can someone please significantly raise the forum login timeout?

thanks.


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#20 2015-10-12 09:52:20

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^noted.
At the moment it's 30min. Maybe we can go up a bit on that.


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#21 2015-10-13 00:12:59

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It's now set to 1hr.
Let's see how that goes.


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#22 2015-10-13 05:37:37

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^ thanks a lot.
it most certainly will be an improvement.
could be even higher, imho.


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#23 2015-10-13 11:30:57

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ohnonot wrote:

^ thanks a lot.
it most certainly will be an improvement.
could be even higher, imho.

We won't sabotage the "getting logged out after X minutes unless having checked the Remember me box" functionality completely.


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#24 2015-10-13 18:19:17

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^ it says "log me on automatically each time i visit".

i never pay attention to these checkboxes, i will remember keeping it checked, maybe that solves the problem then.


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