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#1 2015-10-03 10:21:30

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Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

I've just installed Hydrogen RC1 on my Lenovo T410s and this is a list of issues I've encountered so far during installation and initial use. (Note some are already solved and placed here for others to use.)

Live and Installation Issues
* Some minor hardware controls (brightness, volume, touchpad) do not work in the Live system but do work in the installed system.

* There are some text wrapping issues in the graphic install (probably not unique to this hardware).

* [RESOLVED] No MBR on secondary drive

So the installation was successful, but on reboot nothing happened. A cursor sat blinking in the top left hand corner of the screen until I ran out of patience. Some Googling lead me to understand that when you choose to not change the MBR of hd0 you can't tell the install script to install GRUB in the MBR of hd1.

The T410s has a 1.8" drive at hd0 and an "UltraBay" that can be cold-swapped with hard drives, DVD drives and whatever other slim hardware you can squeeze in there, which is at hd1. I have a Windows drive in the 1.8" bay and 2.5" in the UltraBay. The BIOS of the T410s allows you to boot from either device and set it as the default, which is really handy. So even though I was installing BunsenLabs on hd1, the install script asked to change the MBR of hd0, and if you choose no, GRUB doesn't get installed.

The workaround for this was to physically remove that drive and perform the installation again, so the installer script does change the MBR of the primary drive - because there's now only one drive in the machine.

Edit: Or, I could have done this:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

From any Debian (jessie) live system:

sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX

Replace "X" with the letter assigned to the target drive.

Post-installation issues:

* [RESOLVED] The keyboard is mapped incorrectly. My machine has an American keyboard but BL thinks I have a British one. This will be because I'm speaking British English and not American English. Is this a BL issue or a Debian one? (Unresolved.)
Edit: Following Head_on_a_stick's suggestion, I edited /etc/default/keyboard and altered the XKBLAYOUT thus:

XKBLAYOUT="us"

* Mute button only mutes and does not unmute... ever. I have no sound after pressng 'mute' once, three reboots ago. Plugging and unplugging the headphones selects 'mute' on the taskbar, but there's no sound either through headphones or speakers. WEIRD.

* [RESOLVED]Touchpad vertical scroll does not work. Edit: It started working after the second reboot. Shrug.

Last edited by Enzyme (2015-10-03 12:29:20)

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#2 2015-10-03 10:31:25

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

Enzyme wrote:

I was installing BunsenLabs on hd1, the install script asked to change the MBR of hd0, and if you choose no, GRUB doesn't get installed.

The workaround for this was to physically remove that drive and perform the installation again, so the installer script does change the MBR of the primary drive - because there's now only one drive in the machine. (Any tips on how to perform this workaround without reinstalling the system?)

From any Debian (jessie) live system:

sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX

Replace "X" with the letter assigned to the target drive.

Enzyme wrote:

* The keyboard is mapped incorrectly. My machine has an American keyboard but BL thinks I have a British one. This will be because I'm speaking British English and not American English. Is this a BL issue or a Debian one? (Unresolved.)

Try this:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration

If that doesn't work, edit /etc/default/keyboard directly.
https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard

Enzyme wrote:

* Touchpad vertical scroll does not work. (Unresolved.)

Please post the output of:

synclient

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#3 2015-10-03 11:15:48

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

T420 user here:

Check out xserver-xorg-input-synaptics.

also I use lm-sensors and thinkfan packages. Google is your friend for configuration for fan control etc.

sudo apt-get install  lm-sensors thinkfan

also if the t410 bas bluetooth, you can turn it off for battery savings

with

rfkill block bluetooth

in /etc/rc.local

red

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#4 2015-10-03 12:04:10

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

redcollective wrote:

T420 user here:

Check out xserver-xorg-input-synaptics.

also I use lm-sensors and thinkfan packages. Google is your friend for configuration for fan control etc.

Yeah, thinkfan is a must running Debian Wheezy on this machine. I went to get it just now, but...:

Setting up thinkfan (0.9.2-1) ...
Job for thinkfan.service failed. See 'systemctl status thinkfan.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details.
invoke-rc.d: initscript thinkfan, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing package thinkfan (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Processing triggers for systemd (215-17+deb8u2) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 thinkfan
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

lm-sensors was already installed.


redcollective wrote:

also if the t410 bas bluetooth, you can turn it off for battery savings

with

rfkill block bluetooth

in /etc/rc.local

red

May battery lasts a long time, but I did that anyway. Thanks!

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#5 2015-10-03 12:09:42

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

From any Debian (jessie) live system:

sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sdX

Replace "X" with the letter assigned to the target drive.

Thanks. Edited the original to include your suggestion.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Try this:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration

If that doesn't work, edit /etc/default/keyboard directly.
https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard

Thanks again. Edited the original to include changing the layout to gb and not us.

Should I put the notion that British English + Australia or New Zealand = US keyboard in the suggestions thread?

The touchpad worked after a reboot. Thanks anyway.

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#6 2015-10-03 12:30:41

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

Wait a second - BunsenLabs doesn't use PulseAudio, does it?

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#7 2015-10-03 12:41:55

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

Enzyme wrote:

Wait a second - BunsenLabs doesn't use PulseAudio, does it?

Yes, I think it does.

Check with:

pstree|grep pulse

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#8 2015-10-03 13:12:41

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

Nope, no pulse in the process list.

That's both a relief, in that pulse sucks and I want to burn it with fire, and a problem, because the sound issues are now persistent and seemingly related to the software controls but can't be solved by burning simply pulse with fire.

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#9 2015-10-03 13:16:13

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

Enzyme wrote:

the sound issues are now persistent and seemingly related to the software controls

Are you talking about the mute issue mentioned in your OP?

Please describe your problem as fully as possible.

It may be best to start a new thread for this issue.

I'm pretty sure PA *is* installed (unless hhh has changed the ISO image) hmm

EDIT: Pulseaudio has improved greatly in recent years and is now a mature, reliable piece of software, IMO.

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#10 2015-10-03 14:36:34

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

re thinkfan,

It must be configured.

see http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=118734

I hope this helps.

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#11 2015-10-03 15:35:11

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

May battery lasts a long time, but I did that anyway. Thanks!

forgot to say  - you'll have to fetch the rfkill package first. smile


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#12 2015-10-03 15:40:17

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

Enzyme wrote:

Wait a second - BunsenLabs doesn't use PulseAudio, does it?

Actually, it does, and I have the same issue on my T500. What happens is there's a conflict between alsa's unmuting and pulse's. Open pavucontrol, go to the Ouput tab and I bet it's muted there.

See if removing pulse fixes it (WFM)...

sudo apt-get purge pulseaudio pavucontrol && sudo apt-get install alsa-base && sudo apt-get --purge autoremove

Reboot.

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#13 2015-10-03 22:39:42

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

Enzyme wrote:

* Mute button only mutes and does not unmute... ever. I have no sound after pressng 'mute' once, three reboots ago. Plugging and unplugging the headphones selects 'mute' on the taskbar, but there's no sound either through headphones or speakers. WEIRD.

Had that happen on my Toshiba L10

alsactl init

in a terminal cured it, not touched the mute button since, so can't say if the cure is permanent or not.. or if that'll work for you.


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#14 2015-10-05 03:03:09

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Re: Lenovo T410s Issues and Workarounds

Enzyme wrote:

* [RESOLVED] The keyboard is mapped incorrectly. My machine has an American keyboard but BL thinks I have a British one. This will be because I'm speaking British English and not American English. Is this a BL issue or a Debian one?

The installer gives you the opportunity to choose a keyboard layout, which can be different from your language or location selections. This is a Debian feature. Of course if you missed it at the time there are the other ways indicated here to fix it.


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