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#1 2016-03-08 22:45:28

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Essential Apps

So you've just installed BunsenLabs, good for you! You've got your bog-standard setup of file browser, web browser and text editor. But it's not enough.

What are the first apps you install on a fresh system, the ones you absolutely cannot do without? I'll start:

Guake

A persistent hidden terminal session you can summon by pressing F12, inspired by the terminal from the Quake games. Unobtrusive and convenient.

To Install:

sudo apt-get install guake

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#2 2016-03-08 23:01:12

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Re: Essential Apps

I use guake as well...but looking at a few other 'lighter' terminals, guake seems a *tad* on the excessive side for the light weight feel of bunsenlabs.  Don't get me wrong, I love love guake, especially it's 'from the top' interface, but many here may be put off by it's heavy graphical reliance.


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#3 2016-03-08 23:10:59

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^ I used guake for awhile (the dropdown terminal was kinda cool), and if you have the resources why not? Hopefully BL is a base that you can use to build whatever you like on.


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#4 2016-03-09 06:35:10

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Re: Essential Apps

I prefer xfce4-terminal myself. It does drop down too and IMO it's the best one doing it.

xfce4-terminal --drop-down

One example:

xfce4-terminal --tab --drop-down -T "MoC" -x "mocp"

Since there are some xfce bits already in the system it won't pull a lot of dependencies either.

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#5 2016-03-09 07:21:56

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Re: Essential Apps

Good to know! I like this idea. Can it be bound to the F12 key like Guake is? Presumably I can do this through simple OpenBox configuration?

Snap wrote:

One example:

xfce4-terminal --tab --drop-down -T "MoC" -x "mocp"

What does this do?


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#6 2016-03-09 07:59:38

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Re: Essential Apps

Eraph wrote:

What are the first apps you install on a fresh system, the ones you absolutely cannot do without?

vim, rxvt-unicode-256color, tmux, zsh, ranger, htop & git

EDIT: Re: Guake, see https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rx … in_Openbox
big_smile

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#7 2016-03-09 13:47:46

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Re: Essential Apps

Iceweasel and wine-development from backports. Translations for Iceweasel and Libreoffice. Audacious.

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#8 2016-03-09 13:50:17

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Re: Essential Apps

Eraph wrote:

So you've just installed BunsenLabs, good for you! You've got your bog-standard setup of file browser, web browser and text editor. But it's not enough.

What are the first apps you install on a fresh system, the ones you absolutely cannot do without? I'll start:

Guake

A persistent hidden terminal session you can summon by pressing F12, inspired by the terminal from the Quake games. Unobtrusive and convenient.

To Install:

sudo apt-get install guake

The same (only better [IMO]) can be achieved by using a terminal multipler like tmux or GNU screen. Start a detached session for your user when logging in, even set up a layout and autostart terminal applications, and attach to it from wherever you want, X11/Wayland terminal, framebuffer, ssh tty...

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#9 2016-03-09 13:55:09

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Re: Essential Apps

minidlna, mpd, ncmpcpp, any email client other than Thunderbird.

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#10 2016-03-09 17:25:13

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I thought vim was installed by default.. I have it on my system, and I didn't install it manually.
Oh yes and htop is a favorite of mine.

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#11 2016-03-09 18:35:20

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Re: Essential Apps

If starting from scratch or using a distro that does not come with Firefox-iceweasel I install that first. Then import the fireweasel profiles I saved from my previous system.

Then, deluge, libreoffice, audacious, vlc, veracrypt, and finally bitmask. (for my vpn)

Usually use whatever terminal, text editor and file manager is provided. If starting from scratch I install caja for files, leafpad for text, and xterm.

I also think of virtualbox as essential since I use it every day. Oh, almost forgot dropbox. I use it for sharing a few things and as off site backup for a small number of important files.

Edit: How could I have forgotten Gimp? I always install it right away, and htop if not installed already.

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#12 2016-03-09 18:48:13

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Re: Essential Apps

ranger, midnight commander, mupdf, feh and mocp

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#13 2016-03-09 19:17:36

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Re: Essential Apps

if [ ranger ]
then
urxvt
fi


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#14 2016-03-09 19:34:34

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Re: Essential Apps

Quassel IRC <3

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#15 2016-03-09 22:46:47

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Re: Essential Apps

It's all very well seeing the names of what you install, but most of these I haven't the foggiest about...
vim, Iceweasel, htop I'm familiar with. ranger? mpd? mocp? What are they, and why do you like them?


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#16 2016-03-09 22:56:24

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ranger is a terminal-based file manager with a lovely interactive ncurses interface and the capability to display image previews in the terminal. It is highly configurable through the use of scripting and is the best file manager available, IMO.

tmux is a terminal multiplexer, basically a tiling window manager for the terminal or console. Combined with urxvt, it makes terminator look bloated, slow and lacking in features  kiss


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#17 2016-03-09 23:08:04

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@Eraph:  mpd is a Music Player Daemon that serves as a backend for several music player clients like ncmpcpp (NCurses Music Player Client Plus Plus) and Sonata.  MOCP (Music On Console Player) is a standalone NCurses music player.


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#18 2016-03-09 23:12:58

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Re: Essential Apps

You guys sure like your CLI apps... I feel like I might be missing the point of BunsenLabs big_smile


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#19 2016-03-09 23:31:08

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Eraph wrote:

...... I feel like I might be missing the point of BunsenLabs big_smile

The "point" is to have a highly configurable stable base, with reasonable defaults for new users. Do what you like with it - you even get to keep the pieces big_smile

CLi vs GUI is an ancient, and fairly pointless, debate IMO - use what suits you best! But remember that if you come from a gui-heavy environment like Linux+DE's, or Win, or Mac, then you may have been missing out on very efficient ways of being productive  wink (But watch out for the learning curves devil )


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#20 2016-03-10 00:23:06

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And of course, that depends on your definition of 'productive'. I don't expect the likes of Blender would work so well in a CLI environment wink

Speaking of...

Blender

Ridiculously full-featured 3D modelling/sculpting/video-editing/post-processing/everything, which I pretty much just use to make spaceships. Not the easiest to use, but there are countless tutorials online.

To Install:

sudo apt-get install blender

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#21 2016-03-10 01:00:26

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^ Speaking of Blender,  I use the latest Stable Release, as a standalone app. It includes all the libraries it needs, and I install it in $HOME (in the past, the version in Debian Stable got a looong way behind).

...and I render with CLI wink It is faster, and runs in the background, so you can sometimes get on with using blender (although that is sluggish due to all the resources being used)

BTW Blender is an install option in the default BL graphics sub-menu. See - I already thought of that  angel

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#22 2016-03-10 01:05:29

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damo wrote:

BTW Blender is an install option in the default BL graphics sub-menu. See - I already thought of that  angel

I did actually notice that, sometimes it's quicker to type if you know what you're looking for... I wasn't aware that the version in the repos was behind though, that's good to know, although for my needs it's probably sufficient. My Blender knowledge is about 10 years behind anyway.


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#23 2016-03-10 01:21:46

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Eraph wrote:

.... My Blender knowledge is about 10 years behind anyway.

It must be a pain using 2.49 and earlier, and the internal renderer! There are lots of bugfixes and add-ons included in recent releases, so in my experience it is always better than the version in the repos.


Back on-topic... fsarchiver. I often apt-get this in a Live session, to restore a partition from a backup.


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#24 2016-03-10 06:20:12

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Eraph wrote:

You guys sure like your CLI apps...

be warned - it's a fad.
some of those cli apps are made fairly recently (long after the advent of gnome and kde, maybe thought to be counter-revolutionary), and aren't more lightweight than a comparable gui app.

that said, i tend to use the terminal more and more, but much depend on e.g. the visual representation of the files on my system.


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#25 2016-03-10 07:55:43

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Eraph wrote:

I don't expect the likes of Blender would work so well in a CLI environment wink

I take it you haven't tried povray then?

Ironically, I find that the text-based interface of POV-Ray is easier to work with than the GUI of Blender glasses


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