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#1861 2022-12-11 15:26:43

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el_koraco wrote:

I put together my new rig for the office

Sweet^. I wish.

The latest beta of Mint Xfce.

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#1862 2022-12-11 15:49:52

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Colonel Panic wrote:

It's like a manual transmission in a car (Americans would call it a "stick shift")

I've been an American all my life, and I hate the term "stick shift". I've always called it a manual transmission, too. And I have owned many of them.

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#1863 2022-12-11 16:31:14

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Interesting part from @cog

hatcherylinux

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#1864 2022-12-11 22:00:14

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

ratcheer wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

It's like a manual transmission in a car (Americans would call it a "stick shift")

I've been an American all my life, and I hate the term "stick shift". I've always called it a manual transmission, too. And I have owned many of them.

Today I read somewhere that Lexus is working on a fake 'stick shift' for EVs.

"Cars for consumers is a fashion industry. Trucks are about infrastructure."
                                                    Leif Östling, the former CEO of Scania Trucks

Well, he said it in Swedish. The English above is mine.

/Martin

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prove their worth by hitting back."
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#1865 2022-12-12 18:05:07

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I've always had a soft spot for Puppy (the "little distro that could"), and I've just downloaded the latest version; S15Pup64, which is based on Slackware 15.

It's very fast and snappy but most of the applications are on the lightweight side (it fits everything into a 346 MB ISO file), although you can add full size ones if you want. The only thing I wish it had as standard is a console file manager such as Midnight Commander, though that's easily installed.

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#1866 2022-12-13 01:43:16

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

eight.bit.al wrote:
el_koraco wrote:

I put together my new rig for the office

Sweet^. I wish.

The latest beta of Mint Xfce.

https://i.ibb.co/K2qbphR/mint-xfce-beta-360.png

Holy cow 48 cores in your rig? That can host many VM's even!

Linux Mint looks nice, even the Cinnamon version.


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#1867 2022-12-13 01:44:27

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

unklar wrote:

Good to see @cog is still at it. Looks nice!


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#1868 2022-12-17 21:33:55

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Christmas is coming so it's Gentoo time for me, or was. I think my install disk is just too old now because I've tried several times to update Portage and nothing has worked.

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#1869 2022-12-18 08:03:16

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

ratcheer wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:

It's like a manual transmission in a car (Americans would call it a "stick shift")

I've been an American all my life, and I hate the term "stick shift". I've always called it a manual transmission, too. And I have owned many of them.

Also American all my life, 58 years now and going strong, I have no problem with the term "stick shift". Good luck if you can find one these days. A good automatic is faster now, anyways. And much nicer in a traffic jam.

But I ride a single speed bicycle, so screw all of that. Insurance. Gas. Maintenance. Parking... what a ripoff, what a nightmare.

Either move to the country or move to the city. Get out of the suburbs, folks.


No, he can't sleep on the floor. What do you think I'm yelling for?!!!

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#1870 2022-12-18 08:10:14

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

DeepDayze wrote:
el_koraco wrote:
DeepDayze wrote:

I also found that with Arch it leaves .pacsave and .pacnew files whenever an upgrade will produce changes to config files and the user will need to manage these. Debian debconf would ask if it can replace your config files(s) which you can decline, accept or view the diffs. Pacman doesn't really do that.

Debian packaging is superior to everything else.

100% spot on.

+3. siduction if you're a purist who wants new and shiny and can run apt update at least weekly, Ubuntu LTS if you want a compromise, Debian stable FTW. I'm currently on Option B and after stripping auto updates out, the only issue has been held-back packages. That's solved by upgrading everything else and then running 'sudo apt install' on the held packages.

We'll see what happens when I have to dist-upgrade in 5 years, but I'm not too worried.


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#1871 2022-12-18 09:13:37

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

hhh wrote:

But I ride a single speed bicycle, so screw all of that. Insurance. Gas. Maintenance. Parking... what a ripoff, what a nightmare.

Same here.

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#1872 2022-12-18 11:00:37

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

I'm envious of anyone that could get Puppy Linux to work on their computer. In the early days (for me) I tried DSL and Puppy. Neither would work on my laptop/netbook.


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#1873 2022-12-18 11:58:32

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

mariannemarlow wrote:

I'm envious of anyone that could get Puppy Linux to work on their computer. In the early days (for me) I tried DSL and Puppy. Neither would work on my laptop/netbook.

It's come on a long way since then (I assume you had version 1)? If you've got a spare CD-R and decide to give it a go, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

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#1874 2022-12-18 12:14:17

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unklar wrote:

The concept of @cog has stuck with me. However, I hadn't really worked with a window manager of this type, and, dk in particular. So, ergo, beginner.

For training, I installed that into QEMU.
The virtual disk was originally partitioned with cfdisk from siduction-nox. In doing so, I had set up swap as the first partiton and moved it to the end of the disk. Then I put sda2 and sda3 on it.
While the debian-text-installer, from Lilidog(Beardog) and his grub-installer, didn't get along with this scheme at all, the same worked with cogs's 'hatchery-riogrande' like a charm:
- ext4 installation on sda2
- exclude the existing swap by "do not use partition"
- grub into PBR from / (sda2)
Makes me wonder if Debian uses different installers, one can, the other can't.

At the moment I am very fond of 'hatchery'. Using the rofi takes you to the respective designated desktop 1-6 in fullscreen mode. The tiles change size depending on the number of programs.
The sftp connection guest - host worked immediately and perfectly.
The keyboard shortcuts displayed with Conky are an invaluable help.

IwKdZOUt.png  zroQOoqt.png

What I haven't managed to get rid of so far is that ugly 'gnome-brown/yellow' with lxappearance. The folder icons refuse to take on the papirus grey color. @PackRat, if you're reading this, do you have a tip for a beginner?  wink
nw9Rfgpt.png  kzVYs6St.png

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#1875 2022-12-19 00:05:37

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

unklar wrote:

What I haven't managed to get rid of so far is that ugly 'gnome-brown/yellow' with lxappearance. The folder icons refuse to take on the papirus grey color. @PackRat, if you're reading this, do you have a tip for a beginner?  wink
https://i.imgur.com/nw9Rfgpt.png  https://i.imgur.com/kzVYs6St.png

That would be a question for @cog. I think the default is his custom icon set built from papirus (sort of a ACYL clone that @cog wrote). Do they change color/style with the Newaita set? Don't know how much @cog drops by here, but you can find him at the ArchLabs forum (https://forum.archlabslinux.com/). He is answering questions about hatchery there.

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#1876 2022-12-19 17:59:18

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

PackRat wrote:

Do they change color/style with the Newaita set?

It's the same picture for all of them.
Thanks for your answer, PackRat.
I thought it might be 'hard coded' and was hoping for the short service route....  hvLExpI.png

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#1877 2022-12-19 18:53:35

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

@unklar you probably just need to install "librsvg2-common" then try again.  I built the isos without "recommends" to keep it minimal, thus it's missing that package.

Also if you want to install recommended packages by default you'll want to delete /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00recommends.  Then do an apt update.

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#1878 2022-12-20 08:37:03

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

BINGO, that's it!

librsvg2-common did the job. Thunar showed me the correct symbols immediately afterwards.

@cog,
thank you very much for stopping by here again and to the good spirit who arranged this.  wink

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Thank you for the ISO and your brilliant idea with the 6 program workspaces (1) and the within the bar extending controls for brightness, volume and the logout dialog (2).
Something better I have not wished for Christmas.  QTVHQ1F.png

Thank you!

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#1879 2022-12-21 04:37:15

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

Glad you like it and good find on that librsvg package.  I’ll add it next time I build an ISO.

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#1880 2022-12-21 12:55:16

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Looks like the first spin to ship the new Xfce is SystemRescue 9.06

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