Distro-hoppers anonymous

ratcheer · 2020-08-16 15:04:58

I just ordered a new PC. Color me excited!

My existing hosts are running Arch / Openbox (desktop system) and Fedora / Gnome (notebook). I won't be putting Fedora on my new one, and I'm not sure I want Arch. I'm thinking MX or Artix. I'm tired of everything being subsumed by systemd. But maybe I should just stick with a mainstream distro and not worry about that.

hhh · 2020-08-16 15:42:47

Oh, what a tease. Link to new PC!

DeepDayze · 2020-08-16 15:45:43

I am so tempted to try a Devuan base and using the BL netinstall script to see if I can whip up a systemd-less BL

Sector11 · 2020-08-16 15:57:43

DeepDayze wrote:

I am so tempted to try a Devuan base and using the BL netinstall script
to see if I can whip up a systemd-less BL

That would be nice.

DeepDayze · 2020-08-16 16:05:10

Sector11 wrote:

DeepDayze wrote:
I am so tempted to try a Devuan base and using the BL netinstall script
to see if I can whip up a systemd-less BL
That would be nice.

I also did see on the Devuan site that there are instructions how to migrate ("crossgrade") from Debian Buster (which BL Lithium is based on) to Devuan Beowulf (which roughly corresponds to Buster). This most likely will result in the loss of several BL packages IMO as well as networkmanager (replaced with wicd in Devuan), but YMMV in that case.

These instructions are here for any brave souls willing to try:

https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev … to-beowulf

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hhh · 2020-08-16 16:06:44

Hot off the press, MX Linux Plasma release...

https://distrowatch.com/10992

https://mxlinux.org/blog/mx-19-2-kde-now-available/

Sector11 · 2020-08-16 16:57:13

DeepDayze wrote:

{snip}
These instructions are here for any brave souls willing to try:
https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev … to-beowulf

At one time I would have tried that as I ran 3 or 4 distros/versions of same didtro on hard metal.

Today I'm content to run SharpBang (Debian Buster) and only the one on hard metal.

deleted0 · 2020-08-16 17:41:13

ratcheer wrote:

I'm tired of everything being subsumed by systemd.

Maybe now's a good time for Miyo/Openbox you thought you'd might like to try.

ratcheer wrote:

Very interesting, @8bit. I have been toying with the idea of switching to Devuan. Miyo looks great!

https://sourceforge.net/projects/miyoli … 0-Release/

You can always toss it and do something else. Look at me, I change distros like some people change shirts.

8bit

edit: I used to not care about the systemd thing. But more and more... Here's something on the subject that made me smile while reading:

After the Great Init Purge, the Sythtemd Order installed their dark components on almost every system of the galaxy. All software was forced to depend on the greed, and deception of sythtemd and the Knights of the Old Linux were either converted to the dark side or exiled to the outer rim distros.

Yet the prophecy foretold that one day, the Knights of Old Linux, would return stronger than ever. With small installation sizes on their side, the bloat will be minimal, and the choice great.

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deleted0 · 2020-08-16 18:23:27

hhh wrote:

Hot off the press, MX Linux Plasma release...

MX is a good choice all around. Especially if one wants the noob tools MX is famous for. And a great community.
If one wants the up to the minute freshest, lightest, Plasma Desktop, Kaos can't be beat. Limited repos, 99% Qt only, exceptions - firefox, and a few other mainstream programs....

8bit

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Sector11 · 2020-08-16 18:33:39

ratcheer wrote:

I'm tired of everything being subsumed by systemd.

Following along the lines of "Apple" products would that be:

systemD

or

sYSTEMD

Curious minds want to iKNOW.

PackRat · 2020-08-16 19:48:40

DeepDayze wrote:

I am so tempted to try a Devuan base and using the BL netinstall script to see if I can whip up a systemd-less BL

Have a look at Star Linux

That's ozitraveller's Devuan distro and he has the netinstall iso, and maybe a cli version. Ozi was a #! user and tries to keep that design philosophy with Star. I believe he is registered here (but seldom seen) so you can pm him if you want.

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PackRat · 2020-08-16 19:55:23

@eight.bit.al -

I didn't scroll back to see if you had tried this distro - InstantOS - Arch based distro

Another TilingWindowManager distro. Their InstantWM is a heavily patched dwm.

cog · 2020-08-16 22:49:51

^ Regolith is an i3 distro. https://regolith-linux.org/

Of course Manjaro and ArchLabs also offer a few tiling wm choices.

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hhh · 2020-08-17 03:24:48

cog wrote:

... tiling wm choices.

I've only really used awesome, and that was pretty phenomenal (See what I did there? I'm an expert in synonyminology. Sorry, I watched Boondock Saints last night). Has its own panel, great virtual desktop implementation and can toggle between tiling layouts and floating.

So, as a beginner I had fun with awesome WM. What would you all suggest I try next?

cog · 2020-08-17 04:05:17

hhh wrote:

cog wrote:
... tiling wm choices.
I've only really used awesome, and that was pretty phenomenal (See what I did there? I'm an expert in synonyminology. Sorry, I watched Boondock Saints last night). Has its own panel, great virtual desktop implementation and can toggle between tiling layouts and floating.
So, as a beginner I had fun with awesome WM. What would you all suggest I try next?

DWM of course. After your done with it you’ll appreciate what all the other tiling WMs do. Then when your done with them, you’ll appreciate how simple DWM and what it did.

cog · 2020-08-17 04:06:47

Lol, then after that you’ll realize that the tiling Cinammon has was good enough.

hhh · 2020-08-17 04:31:57

Yeah, I'm completely sold on Cinnamon in Buster, it's really easy.

Thanks for the recommendation, cog!

https://dwm.suckless.org/tutorial/

Döbbie03 · 2020-08-17 05:45:06

hhh wrote:

Yeah, I'm completely sold on Cinnamon in Buster, it's really easy.
Thanks for the recommendation, cog!
https://dwm.suckless.org/tutorial/

I love dwm, it's now my default. If you want to try dwm, you are welcome to my config

Martin · 2020-08-17 06:13:20

I use Bunsenlabs + i3 on my Lenovo x230 as I find i3 works better for me on that small screen than Openbox does. I only have one issue with i3: some programs have pop-up windows that are too tall. Anyone know how to deal with that?

/Martin

ratcheer · 2020-08-17 14:31:51

hhh wrote:

Oh, what a tease. Link to new PC!

Ok, I expect this to be a big step up from my ca 2011 i5 system.

My current thinking is to stay with Arch Linux on the new PC, and once I get it settled, install Gentoo on the old one and try to learn to maintain it. I have installed Gentoo several times in the past, but I always get messed up trying to install applications. Their way of handling that stuff just doesn't click with me. Especially USE FLAGS and overlays.

Then, if I do figure out Gentoo, I would eventually install it on the new host. If I still don't manage to figure it out, then maybe Sabayon.

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