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#776 2019-07-25 02:49:58

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

glittersloth wrote:

I need something simple now. Maybe I'll revisit Arch and get it hijacked by Void via Bedrock, just to see the VM window go up in flames. Or maybe I'll try Solus. No experience with it but always read good things.

I’d think you’d prefer void with today’s offerings.

Kind of in between Debians stability/ inconvenient abstraction layer and arch’s convenient abstraction layer/ cesspool AUR.  Plus it’s more BSD like since xbps is modeled after NetBSD’s pkgsrc.

I personally like Ubuntu MATE LTS.  You can make it do anything the other boys do with enterprise grade security updates.


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#777 2019-07-26 02:01:30

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cog wrote:

I personally like Ubuntu MATE LTS.  You can make it do anything the other boys do with enterprise grade security updates.

Don't you get that with Debian Stable as well? (Not wishing to argue with you, just curious because I thought Debian Stable had enterprise grade security, and you seem to be suggesting it doesn't.)

Anyway, I've installed the latest version of Pardus, 17.5 (deepin edition). This is the first distro I've used with deepin as the desktop manager and so far I'm impressed; it looks a lot like Gnome but uses fewer system resources to run, and Pardus itself is a stable and competent distro with little to criticise apart from perhaps the rather dark colour theme (though you get used to that).

I've been using it today and so far it looks competent on the whole and is working well. It also has an XFce edition for those who prefer that desktop.

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#778 2019-07-26 02:49:31

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@kernelpanic

Solid point dude and I totally agree, I was just saying that you get a bunch of solid Ubuntu community members and Cannonical employees helping out too.

(Also, I’m kind of distro agnostic, they all do a great job to me)

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#779 2019-08-04 16:07:48

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

cog wrote:

Somehow my stupid iPhone double posted.

(It’s probably not Tim Cook’s fault but just good old PEBTAB, problem exist between touchscreen and beer)

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 889#p88889

OK to use, cog?

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#780 2019-08-06 14:39:55

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glittersloth wrote:

Or maybe I'll try Solus. No experience with it but always read good things.

Someone handed me an old Windows laptop to save, so I decided to give Solus a bare-metal install. First impressions are mixed. There's indeed a lot to like about Budgie. Sort of feels like a hybrid of ChromeOS and Win10. Bar on bottom with an applications menu on its left, followed by some 'pinned' app icons and the usual systray/time/notifications buttons on the right.

This laptop is pretty meagre and weird in terms of hardware - Intel Celeron, no fan but has ventilation gaps, optical drive but no ethernet jack, 15" TN 1366x768 display (if ppi were jeans, this would be ultra vintage) - but the Budgie desktop environment seems to run smoothly enough. Some jank when I slide the notifications panel in and out, but that's about it. It feels more like a fork of Mutter than a ground-up thing, and inherits some of Gnome's baggage as a result, like GTK3 hard dependency, certain default apps, settings controls and that infamous tracker/indexing daemon. Also has some weird keybind defaults. I can't for the life of me figure out why window and workspace management duties are shared between the Super and Alt/Ctrl binds on so many distros. It's just convoluted. On the bright side, it hasn't adopted the dudebrotwitchgamer WASD-for-directional bindings like that tiling plugin for Gnome shell. Phew!!

Overall, I'd say Solus is a decent enough replacement for Windows refugees. Especially good if you want something that saves users from their own incompetence, provided you harden the web browser before handing it back to them. For Linux users, I'm not certain. On one hand, it's low maintenance for a "rolling" style release, but at the same time doesn't come with a wealth of packages in its repository. What's there is pretty up-to-date (Firefox is ver68, for example), and you still have Snap and Flatpack for new-school millennial nixers, plus an unstable repo. Speaking of repos, the package manager is simple but effective enough (at least according to what I read in the man page). Pretty nippy too. Not quite as fast as Alpine's so-fast-it-feels-like-it-didn't-even-do-anything, but much nippier than the usual Debian apt/aptitude or Fedora yum/dnf. Then again, I suppose that's partly down to the spartan repo size, but hey, they've got oh-my-zsh and powerlevel9k themes, so you'll feel right at home with your overweight github/unixporn circlejerk shell setup.

Lastly, I can't say if it's a fault of GTK3 or Firefox, but it's pretty damning on both when you can get schemes via the Firefox Color Extension integrating better than the actual GTK theme.

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#781 2019-08-07 14:20:54

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

glittersloth wrote:
glittersloth wrote:

Or maybe I'll try Solus. No experience with it but always read good things.

so you'll feel right at home with your overweight github/unixporn circlejerk shell


Does it include i3-gaps and a collection of anime wallpapers too?


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#782 2019-08-07 17:57:15

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cog wrote:
glittersloth wrote:
glittersloth wrote:

Or maybe I'll try Solus. No experience with it but always read good things.

so you'll feel right at home with your overweight github/unixporn circlejerk shell


Does it include i3-gaps and a collection of anime wallpapers too?

Returned the laptop to owner earlier today so I can't double check, but I recall the Solus Software Center (graphical front-end for eopkg) having a dedicated i3 section. So yeah, you can have your gapped tiler + slow loading shell + obese font cache. No tentacle wallpapers though.

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#783 2019-08-14 14:37:00

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Scouring Distrowatch today, just catching up with stuff. Found this in one of their Distrwatch Weekly roundups.

BlueLight Linux wrote:

BlueLight, formerly called OS.js Linux, is a lightweight web-based Linux distro powered by OS.js. It uses the power of Electron to run a cloud based operating system, OS.js, to provide the user with a more web-based experience.

What?!! Am I the only one here that thinks this is an amalgamation of everything that's wrong in the world? This is why there'll never be a year of the Linux desktop. Because we've got people distributing this kind of dipshittery that tries to replace the wheel with an egg shell!


But there's still hope

Distrowatch Reviewer wrote:

At the time of writing there is no documentation on installing the distribution and the link to the project's wiki is broken. The project's blog is also off-line at the time of writing, making me wonder if the project may be abandoned.

Good!! Hopefully the neanderthings that thought up this asinineism have dropped off the face of the planet.

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#784 2019-08-14 14:51:23

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^ yeah that is a strange mix of software going on for an operating system.

Ive recently tried Guix, the GNU Linux distro. The download and installation via an iso in qemu took over 2 hours for some reason, works fine for the moment though. Need more time to play around with it, especially the package manager. Earlier versions lacked a decent terminal installer i believe?, they seemed to have ironed out the bugs in the curses installer i used. Oh yeah, i chose the Xfce desktop and man that brought in over 600 MB of dependencies with no way that i knew of at the time of installing to stop, so i can only gather that the meta package is a requirement for xfce to work, lots of bloat i will never use. They use a similar function to debian tasksel to choose xfce or mate or gnome, so i guess you just have to learn how to do a frugal install if that is possible.

https://www.distrowatch.com/table.php?d … ion=guixsd

https://guix.gnu.org/

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#785 2019-08-14 18:01:27

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

glittersloth wrote:

Scouring Distrowatch today, just catching up with stuff. Found this in one of their Distrwatch Weekly roundups.

BlueLight Linux wrote:

BlueLight, formerly called OS.js Linux, is a lightweight web-based Linux distro powered by OS.js. It uses the power of Electron to run a cloud based operating system, OS.js, to provide the user with a more web-based experience.

What?!! Am I the only one here that thinks this is an amalgamation of everything that's wrong in the world? This is why there'll never be a year of the Linux desktop. Because we've got people distributing this kind of dipshittery that tries to replace the wheel with an egg shell!


But there's still hope

Distrowatch Reviewer wrote:

At the time of writing there is no documentation on installing the distribution and the link to the project's wiki is broken. The project's blog is also off-line at the time of writing, making me wonder if the project may be abandoned.

Good!! Hopefully the neanderthings that thought up this asinineism have dropped off the face of the planet.

Oh my, the whole review reads like a joke.
Actually, the whole roundup.
I guess we need more stories like this to show the complainers how well off they actually are with something like debian (or bunsenlabs of course) wink

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#786 2019-08-26 07:51:36

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Author of i3s distro experiment.  Kind of interesting.

https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/201 … ng-distri/


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#787 2019-08-26 13:35:17

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cog wrote:

Author of i3s distro experiment.  Kind of interesting.

https://michael.stapelberg.ch/posts/201 … ng-distri/

The fastest package manager i have come across since using linux has to be xbps from void linux. I havent read all the blog article but he should get in touch with the void devs maybe?

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#788 2019-08-26 23:31:07

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BL-Lithium with a custom tint2 and conky, but the wall and gtk/openbox/notification themes are all included in the repo now. Also, lxterminal is our new default terminal but I'm using mate-terminal. We're getting close to releasing a test ISO to the forum, and I'm going to post a Helium>Lithium upgrade tutorial ASAP (but I'm working seven days this week, so there's that). Anyway, it's great. jgmenu FTw and you should see the new bl-exit...

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#789 2019-08-26 23:47:18

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The new bl-exit...

Screenshot_2019-08-26_19-44-16.md.png

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#790 2019-08-27 07:05:39

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hhh wrote:

I'm going to post a Helium>Lithium upgrade tutorial ASAP

If you want some help with the tutorial I would be pleased to help.

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#791 2019-08-27 08:08:28

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hhh wrote:

Anyway, it's great. jgmenu FTw and you should see the new bl-exit...

WOW, It's killing me! Excellent, I want to have...
(do that with the Iso with "patience and spit"   big_smile

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#792 2019-09-07 12:10:48

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I gave bedrock linux a try today on a vanilla install of xfce buster as a base. Its quite a strange animal, being able to cross breed different flavors of linux like void or arch or ubuntu altogether through what they call stratum. Interesting stuff, i can see a cool use for it like say your base system is debian stable but taking advantage of packages from arch or void to setup the system for X and the like.

https://bedrocklinux.org/

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#793 2019-09-07 18:13:41

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clusterF wrote:

I gave bedrock linux a try today on a vanilla install of xfce buster as a base. Its quite a strange animal, being able to cross breed different flavors of linux like void or arch or ubuntu altogether through what they call stratum. Interesting stuff, i can see a cool use for it like say your base system is debian stable but taking advantage of packages from arch or void to setup the system for X and the like.

https://bedrocklinux.org/


I used Bedrock on one of my ArchLabs installs.  Cool idea.


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#794 2019-09-07 19:23:41

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May I ask your thoughts on Debian 10?

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#795 2019-09-07 21:32:56

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^Debian 10 is stable. If that's what you are after it will be perfect for you. What are the specs of the laptop you want to put this on and would you be happy with stable (older) software? BTW The upcoming release of BunsenLabs will be very nice and worth waiting for and I should add Dobbie's Archlabs is a nice option also.

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#796 2019-09-08 13:42:20

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Dobbie03 wrote:
clusterF wrote:

I gave bedrock linux a try today on a vanilla install of xfce buster as a base. Its quite a strange animal, being able to cross breed different flavors of linux like void or arch or ubuntu altogether through what they call stratum. Interesting stuff, i can see a cool use for it like say your base system is debian stable but taking advantage of packages from arch or void to setup the system for X and the like.

https://bedrocklinux.org/


I used Bedrock on one of my ArchLabs installs.  Cool idea.

It is a cool idea although im having issues dual booting it on bare metal. Probably my fault for not installing grub on the linux install as base for bedrock but the packeages for grub are there, meaning grub is installed but not to sda. When i go over to the main distro that handles multiboots it just does not pick up the bedrock partition when i update-grub or os-prober. Ive also tried chrooting to it but /bin/bash is nowhere to be found, very weird setup and when they say it gets hijacked, it certainly does. I will have to set it up in a virtual machine and see how i go with just one whole hard disk install.

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#797 2019-09-08 13:57:04

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clusterF wrote:

It is a cool idea although im having issues dual booting it on bare metal.

Brave man. I wouldn't dare do Bedrock hijack on bare metal (unless I had a spare rig). I still remember my first attempt in a VMWare guest session - ended like this - though that was a few versions ago. Will play around with it again once I get my hands on a new laptop, probably via a libvirt front-end like virt-manager or gnome-boxes.

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#798 2019-09-08 18:03:09

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Window Maker
This is old (Jessie) but stiil fun to see, trip down memory lane.
Pale Moon
Thunderbird
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I loved Next, NextStep, AfterStep, and LiteStep (shell for windoze) and the whole family.

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#799 2019-09-08 18:07:08

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^ Opps, sorry about the size of image.

Fixed.

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#800 2019-09-09 01:00:27

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Holy cow, check out MX Linux's ranking at DistroWatch (right-column), it's number one and up 4700 or something!

@stevep, nice work!

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