Distro-hoppers anonymous

altman · 2024-04-04 00:30:22

Stopped my distro hopping madness a while ago, the 2 last distros installed & used are AL & BL .

Colonel Panic · 2024-04-04 11:39:23

I've just downloaded the latest version of Damn Small (RC2). It's mostly the same except for a couple of glitches on the menu ("Disto Tools" instead of "Disto Tools", and all the menu entries are in duplicate) and there are two new browsers, Firefox ESR and a lightweight option, Netsurf GTK. All in all though, it's coming along nicely as a distro for old or lower spec computers and unlike most distros now it's 32-bit software only so still runs on 32-bit computers.

Only thing; does anyone know how to use the e-mail client, mutt?

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unklar · 2024-04-04 12:59:19

altman wrote:

Stopped my distro hopping madness a while ago, the 2 last distros installed & used are AL & BL .

A wise decision!

I salute the 'Canadian car warhorse'

altman · 2024-04-04 13:55:25

unklar wrote:

altman wrote:
Stopped my distro hopping madness a while ago, the 2 last distros installed & used are AL & BL .
A wise decision!
I salute the 'Canadian car warhorse'

Lol, You bet sir, in some rare instances, it s usually not the case !

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Colonel Panic · 2024-04-04 15:18:30

shortarcflyer wrote:

Didnt like Mageia enough to keep it. Arch distros are more to my liking so I replaced Mageia with EndeavourOS and now things are more better! :-)
https://i.ibb.co/0DSxnTN/Screenshot-2024-03-30-18-19-39.jpg

Mageia's' a nice distro but the last time I tried to use it I got fed up with waiting for it to load. I'll try and fix it but I may have to replace it with something else soon.

Not really sold on Arch distros apart from Mabox (a Polish distro which is based on Manjaro), but I've seen people say good things about Endeavour, on Reddit as well as here, so I may give it a try.

Mabox looks great but I've found from experience that it can be a bit fragile; things tend to break on it and need replacing.

mcarni · 2024-04-04 15:26:38

Colonel Panic wrote:

Only thing; does anyone know how to use the e-mail client, mutt?

i use neomutt... which i believe is the successor to mutt
I somehow decided to move to terminal based application as much as possible
i remember mutt requiring a bit to setup but it has been great so far.

please find some of the links that helped me, if there is anything i can do just let me know

unfortunately the one that helped me the most is not up anymore so i got you an archived one from the wayback machine...

https://web.archive.org/web/20201111195 … mutt-setup

https://jonathanh.co.uk/blog/mutt-setup/

https://www.scrye.com/wordpress/nirik/2 … o-neomutt/

https://lukespear.co.uk/mutt-multiple-a … e-updates/

I would recommend also to watch some youtube video from Luke Smith, he has several on mutt
example: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2jMInHnpNfQ

hope it helps

M

Colonel Panic · 2024-04-04 19:55:08

mcarni wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:
Only thing; does anyone know how to use the e-mail client, mutt?
i use neomutt... which i believe is the successor to mutt
I somehow decided to move to terminal based application as much as possible
i remember mutt requiring a bit to setup but it has been great so far.
please find some of the links that helped me, if there is anything i can do just let me know
unfortunately the one that helped me the most is not up anymore so i got you an archived one from the wayback machine...

https://web.archive.org/web/20201111195 … mutt-setup
https://jonathanh.co.uk/blog/mutt-setup/
https://www.scrye.com/wordpress/nirik/2 … o-neomutt/
https://lukespear.co.uk/mutt-multiple-a … e-updates/
I would recommend also to watch some youtube video from Luke Smith, he has several on mutt
example: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=2jMInHnpNfQ
hope it helps
M

Thanks, I'll have a look at those. I like console-based apps too for some things, the trouble is that Thunderbird makes setting up a new e-mail account so easy by comparison with most of the other e-mail clients I've seen.

el_koraco · 2024-04-04 21:00:25

Colonel Panic wrote:

Thanks, I'll have a look at those. I like console-based apps too for some things, the trouble is that Thunderbird makes setting up a new e-mail account so easy by comparison with most of the other e-mail clients I've seen.

Thunderbird + Evolution >> everything else

Colonel Panic · 2024-04-04 21:55:40

el_koraco wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:
Thanks, I'll have a look at those. I like console-based apps too for some things, the trouble is that Thunderbird makes setting up a new e-mail account so easy by comparison with most of the other e-mail clients I've seen.
Thunderbird + Evolution >> everything else

Maybe, but the advantage Mutt has is that if you use a terminal-based text editor like vim or neovim for much of your text editing (as I do), Mutt allows you to write, edit and post your messages directly without having to save, reopen, copy and then paste them into a window before they can be sent.

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shortarcflyer · 2024-04-04 23:01:22

Colonel Panic wrote:

shortarcflyer wrote:
Didnt like Mageia enough to keep it. Arch distros are more to my liking so I replaced Mageia with EndeavourOS and now things are more better! :-)
https://i.ibb.co/0DSxnTN/Screenshot-2024-03-30-18-19-39.jpg
Mageia's' a nice distro but the last time I tried to use it I got fed up with waiting for it to load. I'll try and fix it but I may have to replace it with something else soon.
Not really sold on Arch distros apart from Mabox (a Polish distro which is based on Manjaro), but I've seen people say good things about Endeavour, on Reddit as well as here, so I may give it a try.
Mabox looks great but I've found from experience that it can be a bit fragile; things tend to break on it and need replacing.

Mabox is my main Arch distro followed by ArchBang, ArcoLinux, EndeavourOS, then RebornOS. Void and PCLinuxOS openbox round out the distros multibooted on my main laptop. As far as Mabox being fragile and tending to break, I guess I have been lucky since I have had zero issues with it since I installed it.

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Colonel Panic · 2024-04-05 07:42:27

shortarcflyer wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:
shortarcflyer wrote:
Didnt like Mageia enough to keep it. Arch distros are more to my liking so I replaced Mageia with EndeavourOS and now things are more better! :-)
https://i.ibb.co/0DSxnTN/Screenshot-2024-03-30-18-19-39.jpg
Mageia's' a nice distro but the last time I tried to use it I got fed up with waiting for it to load. I'll try and fix it but I may have to replace it with something else soon.
Not really sold on Arch distros apart from Mabox (a Polish distro which is based on Manjaro), but I've seen people say good things about Endeavour, on Reddit as well as here, so I may give it a try.
Mabox looks great but I've found from experience that it can be a bit fragile; things tend to break on it and need replacing.
Mabox is my main Arch distro followed by ArchBang, ArcoLinux, EndeavourOS, then RebornOS. Void and PCLinuxOS openbox round out the distros multibooted on my main laptop. As far as Mabox being fragile and tending to break, I guess I have been lucky since I have had zero issues with it since I installed it.

I think you've been luckier than me Thing is though, I like the appearance of the distro so much that I still use it even when things break on it.

The latest thing that's gone wrong in Mabox is that the automatic internet connection has gone, so I now have to use a batch file in order to get connected each time I'm in it (like I remember doing when I first browsed the Internet in DOS in the early noughties).

Hope this doesn't tread on anyone's corns, but it's like the Alfa Romeo of distros. Maybe they're different now, but Alfa Romeos used to be famous for being a make of car that wasn't very reliable and things kept going wrong with them (especially with the electrics), but people liked them so much that they kept buying them anyway.

Alfas were a comparatively cheap way of getting a high performance car, and had a sound to go along with it.
They used to be nicknamed the "poor man's Ferrari".

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el_koraco · 2024-04-05 08:20:49

Colonel Panic wrote:

el_koraco wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:
Thanks, I'll have a look at those. I like console-based apps too for some things, the trouble is that Thunderbird makes setting up a new e-mail account so easy by comparison with most of the other e-mail clients I've seen.
Thunderbird + Evolution >> everything else
Maybe, but the advantage Mutt has is that if you use a terminal-based text editor like vim or neovim for much of your text editing (as I do), Mutt allows you to write, edit and post your messages directly without having to save, reopen, copy and then paste them into a window before they can be sent.

Mutt is great, but when you use email as your main tool for work, Evolution is unbeatable. I have to give a shout out to Microsoft, Outlook is actually a good email client, but Evolution is better.

PackRat · 2024-04-05 09:45:58

el_koraco wrote:

I have to give a shout out to Microsoft, Outlook is actually a good email client

Not any more - https://proton.me/blog/outlook-is-micro … on-service

Colonel Panic · 2024-04-05 11:37:06

el_koraco wrote:

Colonel Panic wrote:
el_koraco wrote:
Thunderbird + Evolution >> everything else
Maybe, but the advantage Mutt has is that if you use a terminal-based text editor like vim or neovim for much of your text editing (as I do), Mutt allows you to write, edit and post your messages directly without having to save, reopen, copy and then paste them into a window before they can be sent.
Mutt is great, but when you use email as your main tool for work, Evolution is unbeatable. I have to give a shout out to Microsoft, Outlook is actually a good email client, but Evolution is better.

Thanks for replying. I tried Evolution but for some reason my "Sent" messages didn't display - maybe I didn't set the right variable?

I've been banging the drum here recently for Epyrus, an e-mail client which is being developed by some of the Pale Moon devs. It's based on Thunderbird 52 and has the same classic interface which, for me, is clear and easy to understand and use.

www.epyrus.org

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Sector11 · 2024-04-06 17:32:40

PackRat wrote:

el_koraco wrote:
I have to give a shout out to Microsoft, Outlook is actually a good email client
Not any more - https://proton.me/blog/outlook-is-micro … on-service

I'm shifting to Proton over time.

DeepDayze · 2024-04-07 00:13:13

Sector11 wrote:

PackRat wrote:
el_koraco wrote:
I have to give a shout out to Microsoft, Outlook is actually a good email client
Not any more - https://proton.me/blog/outlook-is-micro … on-service
I'm shifting to Proton over time.

I have Proton and it's secure and solid. The free account is all I need for basic features and gives a gig of space.

On Windows I use Thunderbird and thanks for the warning about MS Outlook.

shortarcflyer · 2024-04-07 03:54:42

DSL 2024 installed on a spare laptop. It is the only debian based disto I have installed on any pc I own. Check that minimal use of memory!

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Colonel Panic · 2024-04-07 06:59:21

DeepDayze wrote:

Sector11 wrote:
PackRat wrote:
Not any more - https://proton.me/blog/outlook-is-micro … on-service
I'm shifting to Proton over time.
I have Proton and it's secure and solid. The free account is all I need for basic features and gives a gig of space.
On Windows I use Thunderbird and thanks for the warning about MS Outlook.

(and Sector11) Thanks for the info about Proton, I;ll probably look into it soon.

In other news; I've downloaded a lightweight Fedora spin, Fedora LXDE, which uses Midori as its main browser and abiword, gnumeric and osmo as its "office suite". It works well as a live disk but all three of the attempts I've made to install it have failed, so I can't really recommend it unfortunately.

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unklar · 2024-04-07 08:18:48

Colonel Panic wrote:

(and Sector11) Thanks for the info about Proton, I;ll probably look into it soon.

For me, nothing beats claws-mail. Absolutely solid.

Fedora LXDE = Link?

Colonel Panic · 2024-04-07 08:27:19

Sure;

https://fedoraproject.org/spins/lxde/

That having been said, if you want to run Fedora but don't want to run the official (Gnome-based) version, I can recommend from my own experience either the Cinnamon spin or Ultramarine, a Fedora-based distro which uses Budgie as its window manager and also adds a few extra tweaks to make it easier to run, in addition to all the multimedia codecs (it's got a very nice interface and selection of wallpaper too).

https://fedoraproject.org/spins/cinnamon/

https://ultramarine-linux.org/

In other news, I've just installed Devuan 5.0 Daedalus init-diversity edition and it's working well;

https://www.reddit.com/r/devuan/comment … ion_amd64/

(link in first post).

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