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hhh · 2023-12-10 14:53:06

@unklar, I found this. It should help...

https://github.com/nwg-piotr/lightdm-nw … stallation

unklar · 2023-12-10 18:34:16

hhh wrote:

@unklar, I found this. It should help...
https://github.com/nwg-piotr/lightdm-nw … stallation

+1
Thanks @hhh, I have the nwg login window again

I'll have to remember that tip.

Colonel Panic · 2023-12-10 21:51:39

Just installed Fedora 39 (Cinnamon Edition), and it's working well and seems very solid apart from a freeze up once after the screen saver activated. As with the previous version of Fedora though it's very heavy on updates (a 1.2 GB total download and it's only a month old), so I can't really recommend it to anyone who doesn't have a fast internet connection.

I had a couple of problems with MX-KDE and AntiX (the latest stable version in each case), but that might just be my machine so I'm reluctant to go into any further detail.

[EDIT: I've changed the screensaver's settings in Fedora so that it is only activated once the computer has been idle for an hour (the maximum permissible time.) I'm going to look for a more permanent solution later.]

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2023-12-11 08:37:40)

hhh · 2023-12-12 05:14:45

Ubuntu. Someone was asking about Ubuntu. I've got your Ubuntu, baby!

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 90#p130790

Ask for details, I'm happy to oblige.

Colonel Panic · 2023-12-12 21:36:50

Those rounded window corners are nice!

hhh · 2023-12-13 17:01:57

^ Much obliged! It was a hassle getting that extension working on GNOME 45. Fingers crossed that everything keeps working. I'm running GNOME in Xorg, there are still many programs that are hard to get to work in Wayland.

hhh · 2023-12-14 01:16:49

I just want to say, I am no GNOME fanboy, nor an Ubuntu one, in any way. They both suck in so many ways. GNOME is fragile as all hell when you start trying to customize it, and when there's an issue it just crashes and gives you that moronic "Oops! Something went wrong! " display that tells you exactly nothing about what happened. And they broke all of their extensions again with the re-write of GNOME 45, par for the course with GNOME. What's that, the eighth time extension authors have had to port their work to the new version? BTW, why hasn't GNOME unified gnome-settings, gnome-tweaks, gsettings... yet?

And Ubuntu... I just recovered from being unable to get into my session, or even into the login display. Why? because I ran "sudo apt purge --autoremove ubuntu-wallpapers" without paying attention. I know, irresponsible, but it's just wallpapers, what could go wrong?

rachel@tyrell-corp:~$ sudo apt purge --autoremove ubuntu-wallpapers
[sudo] password for rachel: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  chrome-gnome-shell* dconf-cli* evolution-data-server-common*
  fonts-cantarell* gdm3* gir1.2-accountsservice-1.0* gir1.2-adw-1*
  gir1.2-atspi-2.0* gir1.2-gck-1* gir1.2-gcr-3* gir1.2-gdm-1.0*
  gir1.2-geoclue-2.0* gir1.2-gmenu-3.0* gir1.2-gnomebg-4.0*
  gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-3.0* gir1.2-gnomedesktop-4.0* gir1.2-graphene-1.0*
  gir1.2-gtk-4.0* gir1.2-gweather-4.0* gir1.2-ibus-1.0*
  gir1.2-javascriptcoregtk-6.0* gir1.2-json-1.0* gir1.2-mutter-13*
  gir1.2-nma4-1.0* gir1.2-polkit-1.0* gir1.2-soup-3.0* gir1.2-upowerglib-1.0*
  gir1.2-webkit-6.0* gjs* gnome-bluetooth-3-common* gnome-browser-connector*
  gnome-session* gnome-session-bin* gnome-session-common* gnome-shell*
  gnome-shell-extension-manager* gnome-shell-extensions*
  gstreamer1.0-pipewire* libcamel-1.2-64* libecal-2.0-2*
  libedataserver-1.2-27* libeis1* libgdm1* libgjs0g* libgnome-autoar-0-0*
  libgnome-bluetooth-3.0-13* libgnome-menu-3-0* libical3*
  libjavascriptcoregtk-6.0-1* libmozjs-115-0* libmutter-13-0*
  libtext-engine-0.1-0* libwebkitgtk-6.0-4* libxcb-res0* mutter-common-bin*
  ubuntu-wallpapers* ubuntu-wallpapers-mantic* xwayland*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 58 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 258 MB disk space  will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

gnome-shell, gnome-session AND gdm3??? What in the actual eff!?!!?? IT'S A WALLPAPERS PACKAGE!!!!! Not for the faint of heart, I swear. It took some head scratching and reboots to figure that one out after the fact.

Extensions needed for functionality, window focus issues that have to be mitigated, keyboard bindings conflicting, GTK3 AND GTK4 AND the odd GTK2 package AND, of course, Qt... Please let what I have keep working, because it's close to perfect right now. It's like working on a junk car, and when you finally get the engine to start you cry.

Sector11 · 2023-12-14 03:35:03

That's why I belong to:
- Alcoholics Anonymous
- Gnome Anonymous
- *buntu Anonymous

I remember what seems like a hundred years ago when I was using #! someone said:
"Xubuntu is the perfect example of how not to set up Xfce."
And IMHO Ubuntu is the Windows of Linux.
________
Everyone has their options and opinions of course.

hhh · 2023-12-14 04:13:23

Lol. Maybe ironically, the 23.10 minimal version of Xubuntu is great. Just install epiphany-browser and you can start removing snap and downloading Firefox from mozilla, or download the new nightly deb package. Xubuntu minimal is what I installed to get my current setup, I intentionally didn't use the Ubuntu Mantic ISO. Too much bloat.

@Marten or whomever is asking about an Ubuntu distrolet to install, I can recommend Xubuntu 23.10. Even the full version, you can strip out firefox and snapd after the fact with no problems. Just don't install gdm3 and the try to purge ubuntu-wallpapers-mantic. That's how they get you to pay for Pro support, I guess.

Here's the ISO I'm talking about(amd64)...

https://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/rele … so.torrent

https://xubuntu.org/download/

johnraff · 2023-12-14 05:20:12

Interesting site for distro-hoppers - lets you try distros in live form, online. No downloading of isos. BunsenLabs is included!
https://distrosea.com/

hhh · 2023-12-14 06:47:04

johnraff wrote:

Interesting site for distro-hoppers - lets you try distros in live form, online. No downloading of isos. BunsenLabs is included!
https://distrosea.com/

What the frick did they do to Ututo's logo. Is that our logo? I mean, I think I see a little of those harsh angles in this, but nothing like the Abomination logo they have there.

Other than that, very cool.

Sector11 · 2023-12-14 13:25:36

johnraff wrote:

Interesting site for distro-hoppers - lets you try distros in live form, online. No downloading of isos. BunsenLabs is included!
https://distrosea.com/

Interesting site

Colonel Panic · 2023-12-18 20:49:00

I've installed the latest version of Siduction, "Standing On The Shoulders of Giants", which I think is a nice title (the giant in this case being Debian). It's a good distro for the most part but I've still got the problem that udisks, which I normally use regularly, won't work; there are workarounds for this but they're not as convenient.

[Edit: gdebi doesn't work in Siduction either, I have to use apt to install packages from my flash drive instead. Oh well.]

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Döbbie03 · 2023-12-22 05:03:38

So after many years of using Arch and loving it, I think I am ready to jump ship. I have spent the last couple of days setting up NixOS and have it to where it is how I like it.

It's not my beloved dwm, I'm running Plasma, but I think I will spend the next few weeks using Nix and once I am comfortable I will do an install that will include dwm.

Martin · 2023-12-22 08:48:13

Dobbie03 wrote:

So after many years of using Arch and loving it, I think I am ready to jump ship. I have spent the last couple of days setting up NixOS and have it to where it is how I like it.
It's not my beloved dwm, I'm running Plasma, but I think I will spend the next few weeks using Nix and once I am comfortable I will do an install that will include dwm.

Switching from dwm to Plasma must be shocking :-)

/Martin

hhh · 2023-12-22 08:57:18

^ Yes, a desktop that unifies everything OOTB. The horror.

dwm wrote:

dwm is customized through editing its source code

Ouch.

Sector11 · 2023-12-22 12:37:52

OH MY! Good luck Dobbie03

PackRat · 2023-12-22 14:43:49

Dobbie03 wrote:

So after many years of using Arch and loving it, I think I am ready to jump ship.

Döbbie03 · 2023-12-22 17:02:42

Martin wrote:

Dobbie03 wrote:
So after many years of using Arch and loving it, I think I am ready to jump ship. I have spent the last couple of days setting up NixOS and have it to where it is how I like it.
It's not my beloved dwm, I'm running Plasma, but I think I will spend the next few weeks using Nix and once I am comfortable I will do an install that will include dwm.
Switching from dwm to Plasma must be shocking :-)
/Martin

It's a learning curve in itself! I have to keep reminding myself that I need to focus the window by clicking, and it won't focus automatically.

It's not bad using Plasma, but I prefer dwm.

Thanks, @S11 and @PackRat.

el_koraco · 2023-12-22 18:03:45

Dobbie03 wrote:

So after many years of using Arch and loving it, I think I am ready to jump ship.

Whoah, this is a change. What made you switch? You've been an Arch user for an eternity.

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