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#1 2016-01-31 09:17:12

Tao
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Openbox 3.6.1 and tint2 0.12.3 in BunsenLabs Linux

Hello World!

How about openbox 3.6.1 and tint2 0.12.3 in BunsenLabs Linux?

I have already installed these packages from Debian Stretch in Debian Jessie.

tint2 0.12.3 does not have any dependencies from Stretch!

To install openbox 3.6.1 you need additional:
libobt2v5_3.6.1-2 and libobrender32v5_3.6.1-2 ( from Stretch).

I have installed also without any problems from Stretch in Jessie:
obconf_2.0.4+git20150213-1+b1, lxappearance-obconf_0.2.2-3+b2 and obmenu_1.0-2+nmu2.

Attention!
Do not install these packages on a running openbox-session!
This can lead to CRUNCH! BANG!   big_smile

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#2 2016-01-31 10:37:38

Head_on_a_Stick
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Re: Openbox 3.6.1 and tint2 0.12.3 in BunsenLabs Linux

Tao wrote:

I have already installed these packages from Debian Stretch in Debian Jessie.

This is a really bad idea.

Why exactly do you want version 3.6.1?

If you really need it, just backport it yourself:
https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation

Anybody who thinks that using stretch packages in BunsenLabs or Debian jessie is a good idea should spend some time reading through this thread:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? … 9357e4e3fb

Many, many wrecked systems resulting from that course of action...

Users are also advised to follow the rest of the tips contained in the "Don't Break BunsenLabs" link in my signature.


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#3 2016-01-31 10:47:47

Tao
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Re: Openbox 3.6.1 and tint2 0.12.3 in BunsenLabs Linux

BunsenLabs has an auxiliary repository containing packages backported from Debian testing and imported from Ubuntu.  It's just an idea.

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#4 2016-01-31 10:49:16

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Re: Openbox 3.6.1 and tint2 0.12.3 in BunsenLabs Linux

Tao wrote:

BunsenLabs has an auxiliary repository containing packages backported from Debian testing and imported from Ubuntu.

(emphasis mine)

Yes and it's the backporting that makes the packages "safe"

Tao wrote:

It's just a bad idea.

FTFY wink


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#5 2016-01-31 10:53:36

Tao
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Re: Openbox 3.6.1 and tint2 0.12.3 in BunsenLabs Linux

Not my decision...  big_smile

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#6 2016-01-31 11:44:41

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Re: Openbox 3.6.1 and tint2 0.12.3 in BunsenLabs Linux

Tao, you should understand that installing something from backports, or backporting it yourself, is quite different from (and much safer than) just enabling stretch repos and installing from there.

please read https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian and the other links HoaS gave you.

that said, i think BL could really do with a higher tint2 version by default.
(openbox is a different story)

edit:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Anybody who thinks that using stretch packages in BunsenLabs or Debian jessie is a good idea should spend some time reading through this thread:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php? … 9357e4e3fb

ugh, that got me off on a tangent...

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#7 2016-01-31 17:01:53

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Re: Openbox 3.6.1 and tint2 0.12.3 in BunsenLabs Linux

That Debian forum thread doesn't exactly tell why mixing repos is that bad.
Everyone is fighting each other there and no solution had been brought forward.

Last edited by nobody0 (2016-01-31 17:11:16)

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#8 2016-01-31 18:08:53

hhh
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Re: Openbox 3.6.1 and tint2 0.12.3 in BunsenLabs Linux

@Tao, BunsenLabs is based on Debian Stable so we won't offer those packages by default, but we fully support people breaking their systems however they like!

In addition to the SimpleBackport wiki page, I have a backport walk-through posted on these forums...
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=58

Thanks for being a member here, welcome!

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#9 2016-01-31 21:56:29

Tao
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Re: Openbox 3.6.1 and tint2 0.12.3 in BunsenLabs Linux

Thanks guys!  smile

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#10 2016-01-31 23:49:14

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Re: Openbox 3.6.1 and tint2 0.12.3 in BunsenLabs Linux

ostrolek wrote:

That Debian forum thread doesn't exactly tell why mixing repos is that bad.
Everyone is fighting each other there and no solution had been brought forward.

That Debian forum thread gives many examples of fails due to mixing sources, and the solution is there in a quote box in the first post.

Debian Wiki wrote:

Backporting (recompiling and repackaging) is the only safe way to install packages from Debian Sid or Debian Testing on a Debian stable system. Do not install such packages without backporting. Attempting to "mix" releases, especially by updating your sources.list file, is a sure way to break your system. Recovery in these cases usually involves restore from backup.

This has been stated many times before, but let me reiterate:  In BunsenLabs Hydrogen, the only supported binary repos other than Jessie and Hydrogen are backports built against Jessie.  (EDIT:  This includes our own jessie-backports repo.)  Any other binary repos, especially ones with packages built against another version of libc6, are potential minefields.  (Source repos are another story, as installing from them automatically builds a backport against your installed system.)

Last edited by pvsage (2016-01-31 23:51:07)


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